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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Come on, 'fess up.

    The real reason you want a continuing US presence in the AFPak region is because you find it thrilling to have TSA agents manhandle your junk at the nation's airports.

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    I see you're still permitted to post your idiotic trolling in this free-for-all forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Unless I miss my guess, I believe he was being sarcastic
    She... and no I wasn't being sarcastic. As it's enormous resources are developed over the next century, central Asia is going to develop into a major player in world politics one way or another. We need to establish our influence now, or hand it over to Muslim or Chinese tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenect2 View Post
    She... and no I wasn't being sarcastic. As it's enormous resources are developed over the next century, central Asia is going to develop into a major player in world politics one way or another. We need to establish our influence now, or hand it over to Muslim or Chinese tyranny.
    Don't these "enormous resources" belong to the Afghans? I guess we certainly can't have Muslims being in control of their own resources, can we now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Don't these "enormous resources" belong to the Afghans? I guess we certainly can't have Muslims being in control of their own resources, can we now?
    Might makes right. There are no practical, economic, or moral obstacles to annexation of Afghanistan of any kind, just a lack of will on the part of soft, post-modern citizens.

    (I am actually being sarcastic in case bmore_ken wants to make any other dangerous assumptions )

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    How many American soldiers are worth laptop batteries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    Might makes right. There are no practical, economic, or moral obstacles to annexation of Afghanistan of any kind, just a lack of will on the part of soft, post-modern citizens.

    (I am actually being sarcastic in case bmore_ken wants to make any other dangerous assumptions )
    The Taliban's interest in Afghanistan has more to do with its Natural Resources than it has to do with anything else. With the impending departure of NATO forces in 2014, security in Afghanistan is a major concern, and it is now feared that its mineral wealth could be what triggers a civil war. Powerful regional warlords are already trying to aggressively expand their territories to include areas with mineral wealth, and the Taliban has started making murderous attacks in areas where resource development is planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    How many American soldiers are worth laptop batteries?
    I'm with you zen, but it is not just the lithium, there is gold in them hills and iron ore and *******it, oil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    The Taliban's interest in Afghanistan has more to do with its Natural Resources than it has to do with anything else. With the impending departure of NATO forces in 2014, security in Afghanistan is a major concern, and it is now feared that its mineral wealth could be what triggers a civil war. Powerful regional warlords are already trying to aggressively expand their territories to include areas with mineral wealth, and the Taliban has started making murderous attacks in areas where resource development is planned.
    But like you said, it doesn't belong to us, it belongs to them. It's for the Afghans to resolve and if they chose to fight it out I don't think there's much we or anyone else can do to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    But like you said, it doesn't belong to us, it belongs to them. It's for the Afghans to resolve and if they chose to fight it out I don't think there's much we or anyone else can do to stop it.
    But there lies the geopolitical problem.

    The central Government in Afghanistan that we installed under Bush and Cheney and the rebuilding of Afghanistan's infrastructure was as much to do with getting the rights to develop their natural resources as it was ever to do with getting bin Laden.

    But the Central Government has been selling those rights to India and China. Selling them to India upsets Pakistan who wants part of the action which is why they back the Taliban and selling the rights to China upsets the United States. So everybody is double crossing everybody else.

    Oh what tangled webs we weave......................!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenect2 View Post
    She... and no I wasn't being sarcastic. As it's enormous resources are developed over the next century, central Asia is going to develop into a major player in world politics one way or another. We need to establish our influence now, or hand it over to Muslim or Chinese tyranny.
    I see you're still permitted to post your idiotic trolling in this free-for-all forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenect2 View Post
    She... and no I wasn't being sarcastic. As it's enormous resources are developed over the next century, central Asia is going to develop into a major player in world politics one way or another. We need to establish our influence now, or hand it over to Muslim or Chinese tyranny.
    Ok then you are crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    Might makes right. There are no practical, economic, or moral obstacles to annexation of Afghanistan of any kind, just a lack of will on the part of soft, post-modern citizens.

    (I am actually being sarcastic in case bmore_ken wants to make any other dangerous assumptions )
    Hey I get it wrong once in a while, sue me

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Ok then you are crazy
    What is this 'handing over to Muslims" their own Natural Resources, like we owned them in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    What is this 'handing over to Muslims" their own Natural Resources, like we owned them in the first place?
    Come on Byng. You know America owns everything no matter what country it's physically located in

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Come on Byng. You know America owns everything no matter what country it's physically located in
    Maybe people are finally starting to wake-up to why Bush and Cheney went into Afghanistan in the first place? No different to why they went into Iraq!

    But in this case we don't just lose our blood and treasure, the Government in Kabul that Bush and Cheney installed is selling out to India and China development rights to their natural resources! When will we ever learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Maybe people are finally starting to wake-up to why Bush and Cheney went into Afghanistan in the first place? No different to why they went into Iraq!

    But in this case we don't just lose our blood and treasure, the Government in Kabul that Bush and Cheney installed is selling out to India and China development rights to their natural resources! When will we ever learn?
    Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Don't these "enormous resources" belong to the Afghans? I guess we certainly can't have Muslims being in control of their own resources, can we now?
    The resources of central Asia belong to the people of central Asia. Where did I say anything about taking any resources? The problem is in how they are going to spend their resources. If they were to use their resources to wage Jihad and spread Muslim tyranny, then it would mean all the more war in the future. Best to nip it in the bud now. I recommend you take some time and study the centuries long history of war with Islam so that you can understand this topic a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    Might makes right.
    Support for Human rights is what makes right. And that is why the United States should maintain an influence in the development of central Asia over the next century - in order to spread Human rights and act against the spread of Muslim tyranny. We not going to annex them, and that's a rather childish suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    How many American soldiers are worth laptop batteries?
    If you genuinely cared about American soldiers, then you should be asking yourself how many will be lost if central Asia is permitted to turn into an Islamic Caliphate and wage war on the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Don't these "enormous resources" belong to the Afghans? I guess we certainly can't have Muslims being in control of their own resources, can we now?
    Not when they are used to train terrorist groups to fly planes into US buildings.

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