Oraganization is in trouble

[44Defense]

The ravens are going to be stuck behind a rock and a hard place. The NFL is limited in quality QB's and the Ravens are going to be forced to franchise or overpay flacco. The Ravems need help in a lot of places and flacco is not a super bowl Qb. I don't care about wins and loses. He doesnt win the games the D and Rice have. The Defense is no longer what it was and needs help. Rice is doing his part but Flacco is not any good. Ravens should have knocked the skins and steelers out but flacco fumbles, throws picks, and changes Cam's plays. He was also lucky that Ray Rice bailed him out in the Chargers game and Jones in the 1st steelers game. I really hope they let Flacco go and take their lumps for a year like the Colts did and get a better Qb and more help in other areas. IMO

[Slidemaster]

The ravens are going to be stuck behind a rock and a hard place. The NFL is limited in quality QB's and the Ravens are going to be forced to franchise or overpay flacco. The Ravems need help in a lot of places and flacco is not a super bowl Qb. I don't care about wins and loses. He doesnt win the games the D and Rice have. The Defense is no longer what it was and needs help. Rice is doing his part but Flacco is not any good. Ravens should have knocked the skins and steelers out but flacco fumbles, throws picks, and changes Cam's plays. He was also lucky that Ray Rice bailed him out in the Chargers game and Jones in the 1st steelers game. I really hope they let Flacco go and take their lumps for a year like the Colts did and get a better Qb and more help in other areas. IMO

100% agree. You don't pay 100+ million for a guy who's as inconsistent as Flacco is.

[gscaton1]

Good point, they don't have anyone else. He isn't in the top 5 but the bottom 5. He'll still get tons of money. They are stuck with him...

[AFKAR7]

They should not franchise or overpay him. Give him fair market value and if he gets a better deal from another team, let him go.

[44Defense]

They should not franchise or overpay him. Give him fair market value and if he gets a better deal from another team, let him go.

I agree!!problem is he wants to get paid.

[NCBirdfan]

You all must've watched a different game than I did. I saw a game where Washington went up and down the field at will mostly. I saw a game where the offense scored 28 points. Years ago the offense only needed to score 17 points to win. Those days are gone. With this defense, it's hard to say how many wins the Ravens would have had without Flacco and Rice, etc.

[Ravens2006]

They need two good OTs, two good LBs, and a new offensive scheme...

It isn't in shambles, the changes needed are few. Whether they make them or not remains to be seen.

[AFKAR7]

I agree!!problem is he wants to get paid.

I have no problem with him wanting that. All players I'm sure do, I just wouldn't overpay or franchise him. If he gets a deal he likes with another team then thanks it was nice knowing you.

[ConcernedMDResident]

They Got To Go

(sung to the music of Godzilla by Blue Oyster Cult)

With terrible playing call and a quarterback with lead feat
It could have been a win, but it was defeat
The Ravens blow

Fans are wasting money, and Bisciotti's tone deaf
Cam's a waste of oxygen, and Pee's is all that's left
The Raven blow

Oh no, Cam has got to go
Go go Cam go

Oh no, Flacco has got to go
Go go Flacco go

With Lewis, Suggs, and Webb hurt, the Ravens have lost their D
The offense is busy snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
The Ravens blow

Ozzie Newsome pay attention or you'll be packing your bags
You need to fire Harbaugh, Cam, and the rest of the nags
The Ravens Blow

Oh no, Pees has got to go
Go go Pees go
Oh no, Harbaugh has got to go
Go go Harbaugh go

[AFKAR7]

They Got To Go

(sung to the music of Godzilla by Blue Oyster Cult)

With terrible playing call and a quarterback with lead feat
It could have been a win, but it was defeat
The Ravens blow

Fans are wasting money, and Bisciotti's tone deaf
Cam's a waste of oxygen, and Pee's is all that's left
The Raven blow

Oh no, Cam has got to go
Go go Cam go

Oh no, Flacco has got to go
Go go Flacco go

With Lewis, Suggs, and Webb hurt, the Ravens have lost their D
The offense is busy snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
The Ravens blow

Ozzie Newsome pay attention or you'll be packing your bags
You need to fire Harbaugh, Cam, and the rest of the nags
The Ravens Blow

Oh no, Pees has got to go
Go go Pees go
Oh no, Harbaugh has got to go
Go go Harbaugh go

This was not funny on the other thread. Going to cut and paste on all of threads now?

[BlandFood]

They should not franchise or overpay him. Give him fair market value and if he gets a better deal from another team, let him go.

Id consider that but who takes his spot......... Tie Rod? Don't tkink so and besides Flacco will be 6 for 6 in making the playoffs. Id like a year or 2 with him WITHOUT Cam Cameron.

[ConcernedMDResident]

This was not funny on the other thread. Going to cut and paste on all of threads now?

Why not? It beats the drivel that you write.

[TDL]

Id consider that but who takes his spot......... Tie Rod? Don't tkink so and besides Flacco will be 6 for 6 in making the playoffs. Id like a year or 2 with him WITHOUT Cam Cameron.

For the $18-20 million it would cost them to franchise him I'm sure the team could find another QB besides Taylor.

[AFKAR7]

Id consider that but who takes his spot......... Tie Rod? Don't tkink so and besides Flacco will be 6 for 6 in making the playoffs. Id like a year or 2 with him WITHOUT Cam Cameron.

I would too but if they make the playoffs and win say one game do you really think Cam will really be gone?

[Andy in Hagerstown]

Well the Ravens got what they deserved and have lost to two inferior teams in the past two weeks. The Steelers without Big Ben and a Redskins team that has two very nice players on offense and little else. The Ravens have some built in excuses. They played without three starting linebackers in Lewis, Suggs and Ellerbe. But they easily should have won both games and they didn’t.

The offense and Cam Cameron lost the Steelers game. In the Redskins game the defense probably cost the game even though the offense had its usual dormant periods.

This has been a long time coming though. This team has been winning on guts and guile all season. The coaching has been inferior all season on both sides of the ball and injuries have been a big factor. I have found myself contemplating a season ending losing streak that would make Bisciotti blow a gasket. The kind of season ending collapse that would not protect Harbaugh’s assistant coaches.

The line play on both sides has been atrocious for most of the year. Cam Cameron has been a disaster for years and Dean Pees does not run a Ravens defense. I think getting to the playoffs again would be nice. But I find myself hoping for the type of finish to the season that forces change and a top to bottom review of the organization.

[BlandFood]

I would too but if they make the playoffs and win say one game do you really think Cam will really be gone?

Id say he goes before Flacco.

[nflraven]

I still want to kick Flacco in the nut's.

[AFKAR7]

Why not? It beats the drivel that you write.

LOL yeah ok. Keep trying maybe someone will respond to just how great, errrr lame it is. LOL can't wait for another on from you.

[Omaha Beach]

You all must've watched a different game than I did. I saw a game where Washington went up and down the field at will mostly. I saw a game where the offense scored 28 points. Years ago the offense only needed to score 17 points to win. Those days are gone. With this defense, it's hard to say how many wins the Ravens would have had without Flacco and Rice, etc.

Spot on. Four TDs are enough to win a game if you have a good defense. LBs and DBs stunk today, plain and simple.

[TigerBlood]

Spot on. Four TDs are enough to win a game if you have a good defense. LBs and DBs stunk today, plain and simple.

Perhaps, but turnovers are a killer in this league. If Flacco takes care of the ball we win the game. The pick in the red zone was awful. Yes, Oher sucks, but he has to get that out earlier or take the sack. A FG there and we win the game.