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    First off, I am not a "chicken little" fan, there are 16 punishing games in a season, and 1 game does not dictate a season, but 1 game can change a season.

    Injuries are a part of all teams. in the past the Ravens have been able to cope with injuries on both sides of the ball and remain respectable.

    That being said, this deen pees defense is NOT Ravens football. How many times this season have we seen teams run crossing patterns and then have a third reciever drag across the middle 10-15 yds downfield wide open?

    I don't want to hear about "bend but don't break" and "look at the record". At this point, I am in the camp of pees needs to go. The domianat defenses which us Ravens fans are used to start by stopping the run. pees defense cannot do that either. this scheme gives out 100 yd rushing days and rushing touchdowns like the obama regime gives out food stamps.

    I don't care that X, Y, and Z are out and F,G, and H are not 100%. Other teams don't care and won't take it easy, they will attack. pees philosophy is NOT RAVENS FOOTBALL. Time to go, and give the "next man up" the chance to scheme with the talent available.

    If you don't think that P. Manning is getting 450 yds passing next week, after 175 year old Charlie Batch torched this Ravens D for a win, AND a rookie backup entering the game cold gets the tying TD, I have some ocean front property in Nevada to sell you.

    Any time a RAVENS offense puts up 28, it should be a blow out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz44 View Post
    I look at the Redskins WR's and you have two burners on the field with Garcon and Moss. But with the Ravens you only have Smith if Jacoby isn't on the field. I'm not so worried about Boldin being a burner. Redskins just started rolling coverage over Smith and that was a wrap.
    Why ISN'T Jacoby on the field more often? That's yet another issue I have with Cameron and his G.D. schemes.

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    Sorry to say but the Ravens are in trouble. You don't fire your offensive cordinator when the going gets tough at week 15.

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    Jim Caldwell Head Coach - Only successful with Peyton just like John Fox.

    Jim Caldwell never an OC - Fail this year. Maybe next year when he can run his own system. At this point it's still Cam's system with a different signal caller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz44 View Post
    You didn't even need to waste your breath. Just state the facts and show people the MULTIPLE franchise records Joe has set in Baltimore.
    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Where was all this angst and hand wringing when the Ravens were over paying Ngata, Suggs, Reed, and Ray Lewis? Huh? Joe has brought more to the team the past 5 years than ANY of those players, individually or collectively.
    That's going a little too far don't you thinK?!! I mean you are talking about pro-bowl players, DPOY's and guys who are considered to be the best at their positions.

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    Joe Flacco does account for 80% of your offense year after year.

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    Just a thought.

    Nearly all teams now use multiple checks, and audibles at the line of scrimmage. Offenses have dozens of formations with hundreds of possible plays. Defenses have multiple fronts, personnel packages for every down and distance, complicated twists and rotating coverages. Yet for all this complexity, game statistics have changed only a little in the last half century.

    In the end, football is STILL about how you line up and play. Does complexity accomplish anything? Sunday, no one at all from the Ravens covered Garcon of the Redskins on his touchdown catch. Maybe a simpler scheme would suffice.

    Then there's the profusion of coaches.

    Example: The Vikings employ 22 coaches, most in the NFL. Having 22 coaches sounds like having five girlfriends -way too many to juggle.

    Does a football team really need separate coaches for inside and outside linebackers? Two defensive line coaches and two wide receivers coaches? (That's the actual for Minnesota.) The Lions have surrendered four kick-return touchdowns in four games, yet employ two coaches who do nothing but special teams. Maybe Detroit would perform better on special teams with fewer special-teams coaches! The Raiders have 20 coaches, including an offensive coordinator, a senior offensive assistant, an offensive quality control coach and two offensive line coaches. Yet their offense is 29th-ranked. Maybe they would perform better with fewer coaches and simpler schemes!

    IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE COACHES FAULT. The players play the game. Execute the plays called. Caldwell isn't going to come in and work miracles. He will run the same system Cam Cameron has instilled at this stage of the game. Nothing will change. There is a reason Caldwell tanked after Peyton got hurt. Is Fox that good a coach that his record is what it is....hell no. Peyton made Caldwells job easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz44 View Post
    Just a thought.

    Nearly all teams now use multiple checks, and audibles at the line of scrimmage. Offenses have dozens of formations with hundreds of possible plays. Defenses have multiple fronts, personnel packages for every down and distance, complicated twists and rotating coverages. Yet for all this complexity, game statistics have changed only a little in the last half century.

    In the end, football is STILL about how you line up and play. Does complexity accomplish anything? Sunday, no one at all from the Ravens covered Garcon of the Redskins on his touchdown catch. Maybe a simpler scheme would suffice.

    Then there's the profusion of coaches.

    Example: The Vikings employ 22 coaches, most in the NFL. Having 22 coaches sounds like having five girlfriends -way too many to juggle.

    Does a football team really need separate coaches for inside and outside linebackers? Two defensive line coaches and two wide receivers coaches? (That's the actual for Minnesota.) The Lions have surrendered four kick-return touchdowns in four games, yet employ two coaches who do nothing but special teams. Maybe Detroit would perform better on special teams with fewer special-teams coaches! The Raiders have 20 coaches, including an offensive coordinator, a senior offensive assistant, an offensive quality control coach and two offensive line coaches. Yet their offense is 29th-ranked. Maybe they would perform better with fewer coaches and simpler schemes!

    IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE COACHES FAULT. The players play the game. Execute the plays called. Caldwell isn't going to come in and work miracles. He will run the same system Cam Cameron has instilled at this stage of the game. Nothing will change. There is a reason Caldwell tanked after Peyton got hurt. Is Fox that good a coach that his record is what it is....hell no. Peyton made Caldwells job easy.
    The Ravens were playing man coverage on that touchdown. It doesn't get much simpler than you have the man in front of you....follow him where he goes. And on offense, it doesn't get much simpler than lining up in I-Formation which is what the Ravens do 80% of the time.

    I'm 100% sure we didn't see everything is Cam's system. There are some formations and routes that Caldwell will use that we haven't seen before or seen very little of. Not having Dickson pretty much eliminated the two TE set from our offense.

    I agree with you that the players still have to execute but let Caldwell call one game before jumping to conclusions.

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    DJGREG,

    Never really looked the game tape over a second time. So you are more than likely correct on the simplicity comments.

    On another note......Caldwell has already said on record that "not much" will change. To be quite frank the fans should have known what Cam's offense was bringing from the get. Cam's passing offense was never ranked higher than 12th. Cam always had a top rushing attack and a great defense ranked top 5 most years to compliment his rushing attack on the other side of the ball. For "one" of the radio broadcasters to suggest he expected Flacco to throw for 3500+ yards and 35 td's is just obsurd. Cam's offense never had a QB throw for more than 28 td's. C'mon man.

    Old saying "you can lead a dog to the water, but you can't make em drink it".......Raven's offensive line
    Last edited by Blitz44; 12-13-2012 at 06:31 AM.

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