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    Default Obama calls Right To Work a "race to the bottom"

    So far, I like what I'm seeing from second term Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    So far, I like what I'm seeing from second term Obama

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    Because he doesn't like people to have a choice? Then it is a great start...to dictatorship.

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    It is the race to the bottom for his union goon buddies. See without the extorted $$$ from the workers, the unions cannot buy democrats their elected seats in the various levles of gubment.

    without forcing regualr working people to hand over a portion of their wages, the unions will shrivel up and die off, along with the obama regime and the rest of the democrat party circa 2006-present....

    If he is demogauging RTW, it must be the right thing to do!

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    Translation:

    Obama shills for his collusive and monopolistic unionista slugthugs of so-called labor and continues to express his socialist tendencies.

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    And where was Obama when his union buds were betting their asses handed to them in Wisconsin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    And where was Obama when his union buds were betting their asses handed to them in Wisconsin and Michigan?
    voting "present" as to not expose his marxist leanings....

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    Well I think he's wrong but I understand his concern.

    I'm "pro"-Union, in that I believe they serve an important role, and lift the living standards of all workers, Union or not.

    That said, I have no problem w Right to Work laws. Nobody should be forced to join a Union against their will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    So far, I like what I'm seeing from second term Obama

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    Obama shows his true colors. Would be dictator and evil robber baron. Anybody who thinks that their taxes aren't going to go up and benefits reduced is a lunatic fooling themselves. Elections have consequences and nothing good can come of the election of that muslim socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickles View Post
    Well I think he's wrong but I understand his concern.

    I'm "pro"-Union, in that I believe they serve an important role, and lift the living standards of all workers, Union or not.

    That said, I have no problem w Right to Work laws. Nobody should be forced to join a Union against their will.
    There is hope for this one yet....

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    So far, I like what I'm seeing from second term Obama

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    To borrow from another topic, would it be 'liberal' to be forced to join a group, against your will, in order to get a job? What is there to like about such an arrangement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggSeth View Post
    There is hope for this one yet....
    I've said it a million times but I'm not a partisan.

    I care about ideas and issues.

    It's not my fault the GOP policies are woefully lacking the intellectual smell test far too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickles View Post
    I've said it a million times but I'm not a partisan.

    I care about ideas and issues.

    It's not my fault the GOP policies are woefully lacking the intellectual smell test far too often.
    Which ones? Unfortunately we have some Democrats in Republican clothing who are for increased spending. George Bush comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Which ones? Unfortunately we have some Democrats in Republican clothing who are for increased spending. George Bush comes to mind.
    Trickle down economics, for one.

    Being against anything Obama is for is another, unless Obama has the rare ability to be wrong on EVERY single issue.

    Hypocrisy regarding the budget and deficit issues. And yeah, you can deflect it by saying those aren't our values, and at the core, they're not, but the proof is in the pudding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    To borrow from another topic, would it be 'liberal' to be forced to join a group, against your will, in order to get a job? What is there to like about such an arrangement?
    The marketplace isn't a Democracy

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    Neither are unions.
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickles View Post
    Trickle down economics, for one.

    Being against anything Obama is for is another, unless Obama has the rare ability to be wrong on EVERY single issue.

    Hypocrisy regarding the budget and deficit issues. And yeah, you can deflect it by saying those aren't our values, and at the core, they're not, but the proof is in the pudding.
    Isn't stimulus and the on going QE's nothing but trickle down economics? If Obama was really serious about building it from the middle class out he would send the money straight to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Isn't stimulus and the on going QE's nothing but trickle down economics? If Obama was really serious about building it from the middle class out he would send the money straight to them.
    You mean like GWB? Who nobody on the right ever dared called a socialist.

    The middle class is about opportunity. Education creates that. Strong labor creates that. So gutting federal spending, and blaming teacher's Unions for your own profligate spending issues, all while defending tax breaks for millionaires and corporations, flies in the face of strengthening the middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    To borrow from another topic, would it be 'liberal' to be forced to join a group, against your will, in order to get a job? What is there to like about such an arrangement?
    At the risk of being accused of making a semantic distinction, this is not about being forced to join a union. Nobody is "forced" to join a union or pay actual dues. What is sometimes forced upon workers is paying union fees, not dues. They are usually called "service fees" or non-member fees, etc. The fees don't make them members of the union and are intended to pay for the collective bargaining (not political action).

    I have no problem with right to work laws either - provided it doesn't simply provide the opportunity for deadbeats to demand that union members pay the freight for the benefits of non-members. Non-members should receive no benefits that are paid for by others.

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    Electing Obama was a race to the bottom of the barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    Neither are unions.
    Really? They don't have elections?

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