Was it the right decision to fire Cameron now?

[Steveg85321]

I guess it is the right decision, though it would have been much better done about 8 months or so ago. It is a concern that they're trying to change course at this point in the season. My hope (which is something I don't know about) is that there are lots of good plays in the book that Cameron just wasn't using but will now be worked into the plan. It just seems like trying to come up with new plays at this point could be problematic.

I sure would like to see the reshuffling of the OL that people have been calling for. As regrettable as Cam's play calling was, I still believe the major problem is the offensive line in both pass protection and run blocking. Failing that, I hope they focus on quicker developing plays and misdirections that will keep opponents' out of our backfield a bit longer.

[OriginalColtsFan]

I don't disagree that he needed to go, I'm not a Cam fan and didn't want him back to begin with. I just think those of you expecting miracles out of Caldwell are in for a rude awakening

Typical "straw man" nonsensical argument. Where, in ANY POST, did ANYONE say: "You know...now that Caldwell is the OC...I'm expecting miracles"? So putting up a supposed "argument" that NO ONE EVER STATED, IS the definition of a "straw man" argument -- it doesn't exist in the first place, then you form an argument around it. Straw. Air. Doesn't exist. Bmore_Ken.

[TDL]

Since the Defense sucks the best offensive gameplan and one that Cam refused to adhere to would be one of ball control.They also need to attack the middle of the field more and Flacco needs to buy a clue because there are obvious situations where he knows that he has to unload the ball quickly yet he refuses to do so.I would much rather see an incomplete pass and a punt than watch him sit in the pocket like a statue and take a sack and get stripped of the ball deep inside their own territory.

This move was long overdue because Cam was a major problem, but until Flacco shows otherwise he may be one as well.The dude is still making too many rookie mistakes for being around as long as he has.

[AFKAR7]

I don't disagree that he needed to go, I'm not a Cam fan and didn't want him back to begin with. I just think those of you expecting miracles out of Caldwell are in for a rude awakening

Oh I'm not expecting much of a change. I don't expect to see him back next year as OC.

[rharris1986]

Better late than never.

He should have been gone two years ago - certainly last January! But its all history now.

For those doubting an immediate effect - just remember that the Ravens have the plays and the personnel to be dynamic (O line is suspect but we have to live with what we got there) its just that CAM never used them (at least since early in the season).

I'll take my chances with Joe in the shotgun and no huddle - while he stops trying to make 40 yard 3rd down pass play conversions for CAM.

CAM gone equals instant improvement - any day - every day!

[BlandFood]

If the offense plays better, it mitigates some of the defensive failings.

True, what was the Pittsburgh score

[Saticon3]

I never understood the logic of hiring a guy fresh from a 1-15 team in the first place.

(maybe he really impressed us by beating us for their only victory?)

[OriginalColtsFan]

I never understood the logic of hiring a guy fresh from a 1-15 team in the first place.

(maybe he really impressed us by beating us for their only victory?)

Some guys are better OC's than HC's. And in the beginning, Cam did a good job with Joe. It's just that things got really stagnant, and really counter productive, and he ended up staying way past his "expiration date".

[Brohan]

I never understood the logic of hiring a guy fresh from a 1-15 team in the first place.

(maybe he really impressed us by beating us for their only victory?)

Replacing him with a former head coach who was 2-14 in his last HC job makes a ton more sense.

Dick LeBeau has done ok in his second act....let's not kid ourselves about Coleman though.

[tigercruise]

I don't disagree that he needed to go, I'm not a Cam fan and didn't want him back to begin with. I just think those of you expecting miracles out of Caldwell are in for a rude awakening

Oh but you do disagree. You voted no. So, it was the wrong decision to let him go, correct?

[OriginalColtsFan]

Oh but you do disagree. You voted no. So, it was the wrong decision to let him go, correct?

LOL. That's exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to that poster. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. You nailed it, man!

[bmore_ken]

Oh but you do disagree. You voted no. So, it was the wrong decision to let him go, correct?

I think it would have been the right decision at the end of last season. Maybe even 5 or 6 games into this season. 12 games into the season I think it's a bad move.

[tigercruise]

I think it would have been the right decision at the end of last season. Maybe even 5 or 6 games into this season. 12 games into the season I think it's a bad move.

OK, then why was it a bad move?

[bmore_ken]

OK, then why was it a bad move?

You're putting the offense in the hands of a guy who's never called plays with games coming up against two of the better qb's in the league and the playoffs looming. I just don't think it will go as well as some people are assuming it will. Flacco isn't Peyton Manning and if Caldwell calls Peyton Manning type plays, we're going to have that point hammered home real quick.

[Peej7245]

From the Aaron Wilson article:

"Cameron ... had been extremely resistant to accepting input and feedback from assistant coaches and players during his time in Baltimore, according to multiple team and league sources..."

If you have savvy players and assistant coaches who get the feeling that their input doesn't matter, does it impact the on fied performance? I believe that it has but the proof is elusive.

However, enough people had gotten fed up with Cam's hyper controlling attitude and it finally got to a point at which enough of the right people were fed up. The result: Cam HAD to be let go!

And he was.

[OriginalColtsFan]

From the Aaron Wilson article:

"Cameron ... had been extremely resistant to accepting input and feedback from assistant coaches and players during his time in Baltimore, according to multiple team and league sources..."

If you have savvy players and assistant coaches who get the feeling that their input doesn't matter, does it impact the on fied performance? I believe that it has but the proof is elusive.

However, enough people had gotten fed up with Cam's hyper controlling attitude and it finally got to a point at which enough of the right people were fed up. The result: Cam HAD to be let go!

And he was.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't you been a Cam supporter, and didn't you at times challenge people to "prove" he was a control freak? If so, I think it's great that you've accepted that he really was that type of person, and that he had to go. (If not, and if I mischaracterized your stance, I apologize.)

[tigercruise]

From the Aaron Wilson article:

"Cameron ... had been extremely resistant to accepting input and feedback from assistant coaches and players during his time in Baltimore, according to multiple team and league sources..."

If true, and I think it is, this only proves what an idiot he is. My way or the highway, huh? That type of mindset in any business is dangerous and counterproductive. Cam finally went the highway but way too late. At the end of last year he should have been shown the door but I suspect it was the instance of Harbaugh that he was not.

[Peej7245]

Oh I'm not expecting much of a change. I don't expect to see him back next year as OC.

I believe that the big change that will occur will be an increased energy level by the offensive players who will believe that they have a say in what is going on down on the field.

Will that lead to better results? Possibly, but no guarantee.

The biggest change might (and I repeat "might") be in the middle of the games. Veterans get a clue VERY QUICKLY as to what is going on out on the field and have a pretty good grasp of what the defenses have changed.

If they come off the field and have an OC who is receptive, then they can modify the game plan accordingly. The players get a sense of ownership and hence a higher sense of accountability.

After that, it boils down to execution by a bunch of skilled professionals who might just go the extra miele!

We'll see!

[AVATAR]

They will dissect Pee's scheme's making, Flacco more relevant then ever. If he turns the ball over then all bets are off. If the Ravens limit the opponents TOP then we stand a decent chance to win. Feed Rice and his backup's. No-huddle may work against them in the next game.

[tigercruise]

If the Ravens limit the opponents TOP then we stand a decent chance to win.

It's as simple as that. Keep Manning off the field, and we win the game. Can the D do it?