Familiar is as familiar does

[dsummoner]

A blast from the past and yet it is the present for far too many that, in a futile manner, try to run away from what they are.

In a socialist USA political power would be in the hands of working people. Socialism starts with nationalization of the main means of production - the mines, factories, agribusiness farms and everything necessary to produce what society needs. The large monopoly corporations and banks would come under public ownership - that is, under the collective ownership of the entire working class and people, who have the leading role in building socialism...

Working class and people? Now where has one heard such Libigbber before?

Everything necessary to produce what society needs is inclusive of OPM and the prygryssyve looting of those that make a modest and high income is, indeed, prygryssyve socialism.

Trade unions in a socialist USA will insure a fair balance between what workers produce and what they receive. They will have decisive power to enforce safety and health provisions, prevent speedup, guarantee good transportation, working conditions and plant facilities. Public services - schools, hospitals, utilities, transit, hospitals, parks, roads - are crumbling under capitalism. Under socialism public services will be updated and vastly expanded. They will be broadened in their scope beyond anything dreamed of under capitalism.

Trade unions? Now who could possibly be supporting trade unions in this day and age besides socialists/Marxists? The euphemism of "public" services... now where has one heard that before?

All education will be tuition-free. Every person will have access to medical and health care without charge. These rights will be realized as rapidly as facilities can be built and the personnel trained...guaranteeing basic necessities, free education and health care...

"Free" education and "free" healthcare as "rights?" Now where has one heard that before?

Socialism provides moral incentives because the fruits of labor benefit all. No person robs others of the fruits of their labor. When social goals are adopted by the majority, people will want to work for these goals. Work will be less a burden, more and more a creative activity, where everyone is his or her neighbor's helper, instead of rival.

The highlighted portion to emphasize the comedy that is the Libbie looter mindset. This worked so well for the Soviets that no gulags were needed... oh wait.

[pickles]

The Strawman Cometh.

[dsummoner]

Your futile attempts to run away from your own defining ideology are, yet again, an epic failure.

[ms maggie]

This reminds me of A Confederacy of Dunces. Ignatius' mother specifically.

[pickles]

“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past … (few) years.”

Who said it?

[ms maggie]

“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past … (few) years.”

Who said it?

Hitler. Weimar Republic was guilty of "liberal excesses" and riddled w "Bolshevik" influence th his mind--saw Christianity as his natural ally, a position unfortunately taken up by fascists generally.

[dsummoner]

Hitler. Weimar Republic was guilty of "liberal excesses" and riddled w "Bolshevik" influence th his mind--saw Christianity as his natural ally, a position unfortunately taken up by fascists generally.

Fascists, socialists, etc. all cut from the same statist cloth (all very Prygryssyve but with a penchant for resorting to mainstream violent, reactionary, unhinged and black clad culling against each other secondary to cult of personality issues and deviations from perceived orthodoxy). It is no surprise to find socialist age-related insurance in the 1936 Constitution of the USSR (Article 120), 'a large scale expansion of old age welfare' (point number fifteen) in the 1920 NSDAP Party platform and of course, from the Great Subverter, Federalist Roosevelt.

BTW, Edward Pease is making for some fascinating reading, but Henry George... not so much.

[ms maggie]

Fascists, socialists, etc. all cut from the same statist cloth (all very Prygryssyve but with a penchant for resorting to mainstream violent, reactionary, unhinged and black clad culling against each other secondary to cult of personality issues and deviations from perceived orthodoxy). It is no surprise to find socialist age-related insurance in the 1936 Constitution of the USSR (Article 120), 'a large scale expansion of old age welfare' (point number fifteen) in the 1920 NSDAP Party platform and of course, from the Great Subverter, Federalist Roosevelt.

BTW, Edward Pease is making for some fascinating reading, but Henry George... not so much.

Socialism is hardly reactionary. Nor particularly prone to violence in its non-Communist form.

[dsummoner]

Socialism is hardly reactionary. Nor particularly prone to violence in its non-Communist form.

It is most definitely reactionary and most certainly militant (except in its Fabian form for the most part). One, of course, never lets the socialists define the terms of the debate.

[downhome]

This reminds me of A Confederacy of Dunces. Ignatius' mother specifically.

It was her boyfriend, Mr Claude Robichaux who worried about the "communis"
OTOH, I can picture dsummoner as Ignatius, the "green cap mother like a nucklear bum"


[Totally off topic, but my partner found an abridged audio book of Confederacy of Dunces read by Arte Johnson; hysterical]

[dsummoner]

It was her boyfriend, Mr Claude Robichaux who worried about the "communis"
OTOH, I can picture dsummoner as Ignatius, the "green cap mother like a nucklear bum"


[Totally off topic, but my partner found an abridged audio book of Confederacy of Dunces read by Arte Johnson; hysterical]

I am a bit torn on which gift to purchase for you with funds obtained from my capitalist oppression of the proletariat.

[pickles]

Fascists, socialists, etc. all cut from the same statist cloth (all very Prygryssyve but with a penchant for resorting to mainstream violent, reactionary, unhinged and black clad culling against each other secondary to cult of personality issues and deviations from perceived orthodoxy). It is no surprise to find socialist age-related insurance in the 1936 Constitution of the USSR (Article 120), 'a large scale expansion of old age welfare' (point number fifteen) in the 1920 NSDAP Party platform and of course, from the Great Subverter, Federalist Roosevelt.

BTW, Edward Pease is making for some fascinating reading, but Henry George... not so much.

You do realize of course that Fascism and Communism are on opposite ends of the political spectrum?

[dsummoner]

You do realize of course that Fascism and Communism are on opposite ends of the political spectrum?

Your so-called political spectrum, as intellectually bankrupt and indefensible as it was, now, lies in tatters and is soiled (the schizophrenic jingoism of your fellow socialists with the soon to be coronation of the Lightworker is merely par for the course). Poor Omar is left crying in the corner.

[downhome]

I am a bit torn on which gift to purchase for you with funds obtained from my capitalist oppression of the proletariat.

The stop police violence mug would be great! Thanks!

Please, could I hear the story of your scenicruiser trip one more time?

[dsummoner]

Speaking of 'social,' 'progressive' and socialist (so many synonyms for the last)...

Source:

PROGRESSIVE POLITICS for a fairer world

The Socialist International is the worldwide organisation of social democratic, socialist and labour parties. It currently brings together 162 political parties and organisations from all continents....The SI Commission on Global Financial Issues was established by the Socialist International to address from a social democratic perspective the ongoing global financial crisis. The Commission brings together political leaders, ministers and noted experts from all continents who are working to formulate a global progressive response to the crisis based on the principles of democratic due process and full transparency and consistent with the values of social justice and social solidarity.

Solidarity, social justice and so-called labor (or labour)? Now where would one have heard these terms before?

Of course one could not be without prygryssyve Gaian Warmer religious nutteria (as the facade for climate reparations and other socialist claptrap):

The SI Commission for a Sustainable World Society was established by the Socialist International to articulate from the world of progressive politics a way forward to address global environmental concerns, climate change and the issues of governance required to deal with these common challenges.

[downhome]

You do realize of course that Fascism and Communism are on opposite ends of the political spectrum?

It doesn't matter much if you're a peon.

[dsummoner]

The stop police violence mug would be great! Thanks!

Not the Warhol style Marx mug?

Police violence is bad, m'kay, during the reactionary phase of seizing the means of production and the organs of power from the bourgeois (all for the empowerment of the proletariat and oppressed peoples). Once seized, however, police violence is great as it keeps the counter-reactionaries in check. Just compare the 1960s era US reactionaries to the same, now, after they have seized the reigns of government.

Please, could I hear the story of your scenicruiser trip one more time?

That would be Earthmurder!

[ms maggie]

Speaking of 'social,' 'progressive' and socialist (so many synonyms for the last)...

Source:



Solidarity, social justice and so-called labor (or labour)? Now where would one have heard these terms before?

Of course one could not be without prygryssyve Gaian Warmer religious nutteria (as the facade for climate reparations and other socialist claptrap):

I thought that

One, of course, never lets the socialists define the terms of the debate.

The problem with sophism is invariably one falls prey to one's own seduction.

[pickles]

It doesn't matter much if you're a peon.

Mmm, maybe.

Doesn't change the fact that as usual dsumm is showing an alarming lack of understanding the basics of which he speaks.

[ms maggie]

It was her boyfriend, Mr Claude Robichaux who worried about the "communis"
OTOH, I can picture dsummoner as Ignatius, the "green cap mother like a nucklear bum"


[Totally off topic, but my partner found an abridged audio book of Confederacy of Dunces read by Arte Johnson; hysterical]

I was given this book years ago, when it first came out. I was visiting my parents and then flying somewhere for work. My dad gave me a copy of this and said he knew I would enjoy it. Well I started to read it on the plane and thoroughly embarrassed myself as I couldn't control my laughing.

I cannot believe nobody has made this into a movie--can't you just see Philip Seymour Hoffman as Ignatius? And Chris Rock as the black guy who gets suckered into working as a janitor in the Quarter?