Familiar is as familiar does

[dsummoner]

I thought that

The problem with sophism is invariably one falls prey to one's own seduction.

The socialists (aka prygryssyves aka lybyryls aka whatever they are calling themselves this week) are a perfect example.

[dsummoner]

Mmm, maybe.

Doesn't change the fact that as usual dsumm is showing an alarming lack of understanding the basics of which he speaks.

Ah! The socialist/fascist unhinging begins. I am proud of you in that you were able to control yourself for this long.

[jrob]

Hitler. Weimar Republic was guilty of "liberal excesses" and riddled w "Bolshevik" influence th his mind--saw Christianity as his natural ally, a position unfortunately taken up by fascists generally.

Incorrect. He deemed Christianity 'flabby', and saw Islam as his natural ally.

[ms maggie]

Incorrect. He deemed Christianity 'flabby', and saw Islam as his natural ally.

Hitler embraced the historic anti-Semitism of Christianity and sought to align himself with the church. This Islam thing is very thin and of course completely revisionist.

[pickles]

Ah! The socialist/fascist unhinging begins. I am proud of you in that you were able to control yourself for this long.

You're a funny little girl.

[jrob]

Hitler embraced the historic anti-Semitism of Christianity and sought to align himself with the church. This Islam thing is very thin and of course completely revisionist.

Looks like you're revising history again, not surprising given your penchant for lying for Islam.

He did align himself with the church, which was and is aligned with Islam, and not surprisingly he had joint clerical fascist Roman Catholic nazis fighting alongside their fez-wearing Muslim brethren.

He hated Christian orthodoxy (enemy of the church, and enemy of his ustashi and handzar nazis). This of course flows through to your policy of today: theatrical hatred of the church, but *actual* hatred of its Christian orthodox and Jewish victims.

Many of his nazis converted to Islam and moved to Arabia after WWII, taking on Arabic names.

[pickles]

Looks like you're revising history again, not surprising given your penchant for lying for Islam.

He did align himself with the church, which was and is aligned with Islam, and not surprisingly he had joint clerical fascist Roman Catholic nazis fighting alongside their fez-wearing Muslim brethren.

He hated Christian orthodoxy (enemy of the church, and enemy of his ustashi and handzar nazis). This of course flows through to your policy of today: theatrical hatred of the church, but *actual* hatred of its Christian orthodox and Jewish victims.

Many of his nazis converted to Islam and moved to Arabia after WWII, taking on Arabic names.

Well, let's be honest: Hitler, and Nazis, were no more Islamic than they were Christian.

What he was was a Fascist, who would invoke Christianity to further his agenda. A charlatan.

I brought it up to point out the absurdity of dsumm's op: Liberals are no more socialists than conservatives are fascists.

[jrob]

Well, let's be honest: Hitler, and Nazis, were no more Islamic than they were Christian.

What he was was a Fascist, who would invoke Christianity to further his agenda. A charlatan.

I brought it up to point out the absurdity of dsumm's op: Liberals are no more socialists than conservatives are fascists.

Incorrect. He had an affinity for Islam--the ultimate tool for subjugation and getting people to do whatever he wanted (because unlike Judaism, it is fine to carry out any and all kinds of evil in *this* world while trying to get into paradise after death. Comedic, no?)

And he was happy to ally with the Christian branch that supported his quest. Christian Orthodox were not part of this, were among his biggest resistance (in Yugoslavia) and are hated today by the revisionist historians that deny his affinity for Islam.

Obviously, they have to deny it--because with regard to geopolitics, they quietly share his ideologies and objectives.

[pickles]

Incorrect. He had an affinity for Islam--the ultimate tool for subjugation and getting people to do whatever he wanted (because unlike Judaism, it is fine to carry out any and all kinds of evil in *this* world while trying to get into paradise after death. Comedic, no?)

And he was happy to ally with the Christian branch that supported his quest. Christian Orthodox were not part of this, were among his biggest resistance (in Yugoslavia) and are hated today by the revisionist historians that deny his affinity for Islam.

Obviously, they have to deny it--because with regard to geopolitics, they quietly share his ideologies and objectives.

Well, I'd gladly read anything you can provided, from a legitimate historian, that outlines Hitler's "affinity" for Islam.

[dsummoner]

You're a funny little girl.

Ah! The Libbie meltdown is in full affect.

[dsummoner]

I brought it up to point out the absurdity of dsumm's op: Liberals are no more socialists than conservatives are fascists.

Your futile attempts to run away from your own defining ideology are, yet again, an epic failure.

Byngo!

Your entire ideology was laid out in the first post on this thread and before you start Libgibbering in an enraged and mainstream, violent, reactionary and black-clad manner, here are your 100 points of Libgibber, already posted.

The Libbies are the Conservatives and have been for some time. That the socialist/fascist Libbie program is merely synonymous in regards to the former for the latter, is par for the course. That the Libbie socialist/fascists try so hard to run away from their own ideology is pure comedy gold.

[dsummoner]

A simple search for 'Grand Mufti Jerusalem' reveals a blast from the past.

[pickles]

Byngo!

Your entire ideology was laid out in the first post on this thread and before you start Libgibbering in an enraged and mainstream, violent, reactionary and black-clad manner, here are your 100 points of Libgibber, already posted.

The Libbies are the Conservatives and have been for some time. That the socialist/fascist Libbie program is merely synonymous in regards to the former for the latter, is par for the course. That the Libbie socialist/fascists try so hard to run away from their own ideology is pure comedy gold.

Yes, child, repeating the same silly catchphrases over and over again is a substitute for thinking and intellectually defending your position.

You're a hero.

[dsummoner]

Yes, child, repeating the same silly catchphrases over and over again is a substitute for thinking and intellectually defending your position.

You're a hero.

You were already punked from the incipient thread on this post.

Your socialist ideology... spelled out for you... in your Bill of Rights socialist. Your socialist security, spelled out for you... in your USSR Constitution AND your Nazi Party platform.

That you can only sit there fuming away while being enraged at your inability to run away from your socialist/fascist views is to be expected.

[pickles]

You were already punked from the incipient thread on this post.

Your socialist ideology... spelled out for you... in your Bill of Rights socialist. Your socialist security, spelled out for you... in your USSR Constitution AND your Nazi Party platform.

That you can only sit there fuming away while being enraged at your inability to run away from your socialist/fascist views is to be expected.

Yes, dsumm, I'm so furious.

I can't stand that a grown man who writes and thinks like a child has owned me once again. I just can't stand it.

Tell us more how socialism and fascism are the same thing.

[dsummoner]

Yes, dsumm, I'm so furious.

I can't stand that a grown man who writes and thinks like a child has owned me once again. I just can't stand it.

Tell us more how socialism and fascism are the same thing.

You have owned yourself with your own socialist/fascist ideology.

Your socialist/fascist ideology is the same thing because it is the ideology of statism. To wit, even beyond your USSR/Nazi/FDR social security:

The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

A large and powerful central state (e.g. the Third Reich, the USSR, Obama, etc.) promulgating the terms of 'universality' (aka common good) in which the individual is subservient to the same coupled with the usual Libgibber of 'rent-slavery,' the abolition of unearned income, the breaking up of trusts, 'profit sharing,' land reform and 'the creation of a healthy middle class' predicated upon the 'communalization' of resources... now where has one heard such diametrically opposed to socialism points before...

[jrob]

Well, I'd gladly read anything you can provided, from a legitimate historian, that outlines Hitler's "affinity" for Islam.

It's well documented by numerous historians, and you only make yourself look foolish by denying this fact.

[pickles]

It's well documented by numerous historians, and you only make yourself look foolish by denying this fact.

I'm not denying it. I'm questioning it. I'd like to see direct sources. And I'd like to judge the merits of those sources. Again, I'm all ears. Provide something.

[jrob]

I'm not denying it. I'm questioning it. I'd like to see direct sources. And I'd like to judge the merits of those sources. Again, I'm all ears. Provide something.

You can read about Husseini's relationship with the 3rd Reich from any number of historians. Use 'the google' and choose whichever ones suit your fancy.

Can't squirm your way out of this one by saying that my historians are 'liars' because they expose your favorite nazis.

[dsummoner]

Haj Amin al-Husseini and the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg would be good places to start.