R.I.P. MIAA "A" Conference Championship

[TheGuru]

I heard last night that the MIAA membership voted to discontinue the "A" Conference football playoffs. The membership supposedly voted 5-2 against keeping the playoffs. SFA was the 7th vote more than likely. I hope this is true. If so, Biff Poggi's crusade to make the Turkey Bowl irrelevant failed. It didn't hurt that the Gilman & McDonogh alumni didn't like the fact that their rivalry game became irrelevant this season when they played McDonogh a second time.

[harcohorns]

Wow.. big win for the Turkey Bowlers and The Traditionalists...

[harcohorns]

Just curious if this could pave the way for a regional conference of sorts... Not that Gil or McD would leave MIAA but just also be in a regional thing... Like basketball where the teams are MIAA but some also play in the Baltimore Catholic League.. could this work for football?


I will use Gilman for example... Could they play MIAA schedule but also in another Conference call it whatever .. That other conference say it includes 4 to 6 teams could have a play-off or just a championship game...

SO Gilman schedule could include the 5 or 6 MIAAA teams, 1 or 2 OOS high profile games.. and 3 or 4 other conference games plus other conference championship game?

If it works for basketball why not football?

Just a thoiught.

[aacountyfootball]

I'm not sure how you play the game of football without a post-season. Whether a team makes the post-season or not, the chase towards that goal is a huge aspect to the high school football experience. This is really bad news. I hope that it is not true.

[watson34]

Gilman was clearly going to win the MIAA "A" Championship consistently for some time. So the rest of the pack said do away with it. The only two don't kill votes were CHC and Gilman. Hope they at least extend the total games scheduled to 12 vs 10. Otherwise it will kill the league as far a Top National ranking.

[85Knight]

I heard last night that the MIAA membership voted to discontinue the "A" Conference football playoffs. The membership supposedly voted 5-2 against keeping the playoffs. SFA was the 7th vote more than likely. I hope this is true. If so, Biff Poggi's crusade to make the Turkey Bowl irrelevant failed. It didn't hurt that the Gilman & McDonogh alumni didn't like the fact that their rivalry game became irrelevant this season when they played McDonogh a second time.

GA's gonna be pissed. I truly understand why Loyola and Calvert Hall don't want to play twice and why Gilman and McDonogh alum probably feel the same way. Now that City and Poly are in the same region again there's a chance we could meet twice. That would screw up 124 yrs. of tradition.

I always thought the MIAA playoffs were meaningless anyway. There are not enough teams to make a playoffs necessary. It was becoming anticlimactic.

[harcohorns]

I would think at least this would open the door for a promoter to host a post season 4 team invitational tournament spanning two weeks... probably be more succesful than the early season classics in terms of fan fare...

[85Knight]

I would think at least this would open the door for a promoter to host a post season 4 team invitational tournament spanning two weeks... probably be more succesful than the early season classics in terms of fan fare...

For me championships are much more exciting when they aren't rematches from the regular season. There was a little bit of build up in last year's game but this year not so much. Of course it meant something to Gilman and Calvert Hall because they played in both games but I think it had started to become ho hum to everyone else.

[eaglesinsider]

I had heard this would probably happen back in the summer. I posted about it in that long thread with every teams schedules in it in June or July.

Now you see why getting SFA to the A Conference was so important to the Catholic Schools. It gives them a super-majority (greater than 2/3s) over McDonogh/Gilman, who I'm fairly certain cast the 2 dissenting votes.

That being said, I'm not overly sad to see the playoffs go. It was pretty messed up to begin with with the seedings and the point system I don't think anyone ever figured out.

However, I don't think the MIAA is a good fit for McDonogh or Gilman long-term. Anything they want to push that CHC/Loyola doesn't want will be shot down by those 2 schools and the other 3 Catholic schools, who are pretty much CHC/Loyola's lapdogs. I think the time has come to form a new league of like minded schools, spearheaded by McDonogh/Gilman, maybe on a more regional scale.

[85Knight]

I had heard this would probably happen back in the summer. I posted about it in that long thread with every teams schedules in it in June or July.

Now you see why getting SFA to the A Conference was so important to the Catholic Schools. It gives them a super-majority (greater than 2/3s) over McDonogh/Gilman, who I'm fairly certain cast the 2 dissenting votes.

That being said, I'm not overly sad to see the playoffs go. It was pretty messed up to begin with with the seedings and the point system I don't think anyone ever figured out.

However, I don't think the MIAA is a good fit for McDonogh or Gilman long-term. Anything they want to push that CHC/Loyola doesn't want will be shot down by those 2 schools and the other 3 Catholic schools, who are pretty much CHC/Loyola's lapdogs. I think the time has come to form a new league of like minded schools, spearheaded by McDonogh/Gilman, maybe on a more regional scale.

This will probably be the straw that broke the camels back for Gilman and I can see McDonogh following.

[TheGuru]

Gilman was clearly going to win the MIAA "A" Championship consistently for some time. So the rest of the pack said do away with it. The only two don't kill votes were CHC and Gilman. Hope they at least extend the total games scheduled to 12 vs 10. Otherwise it will kill the league as far a Top National ranking.

I doubt that CHC voted against getting rid of the playoffs. The whole thing was created by Poggi because he was pissed that CHC won the title the traditional way in 2010. The MIAA ain't the NFL or the BCS. I think the MIAA playoff cheapened what its teams accomplished in the regular season. However, if the MPSSAA wanted to allow the MIAA and Maryland based WCAC schools in the state playoffs, I wouldn't object.��

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I had heard this would probably happen back in the summer. I posted about it in that long thread with every teams schedules in it in June or July.

Now you see why getting SFA to the A Conference was so important to the Catholic Schools. It gives them a super-majority (greater than 2/3s) over McDonogh/Gilman, who I'm fairly certain cast the 2 dissenting votes.

That being said, I'm not overly sad to see the playoffs go. It was pretty messed up to begin with with the seedings and the point system I don't think anyone ever figured out.

However, I don't think the MIAA is a good fit for McDonogh or Gilman long-term. Anything they want to push that CHC/Loyola doesn't want will be shot down by those 2 schools and the other 3 Catholic schools, who are pretty much CHC/Loyola's lapdogs. I think the time has come to form a new league of like minded schools, spearheaded by McDonogh/Gilman, maybe on a more regional scale.

I agree, it's time for Gilman and McDonogh to leave this league. It has officially now become a joke!! CHC and Loyola have now officially thrown in the towel and said that they can't compete and don't want to. They realize that more than likely they will never beat Gilman again and if they do their best chance to ever win is to play a weak a s s schedule and hope that Gilman is worn out and injured when they play, so that they can get the upset! The rest of the MIAA are jokes as well for following suit with them!

The time has come to leave this league Gilman and McDonogh. I think you're right, this is probably the last straw. Good luck to the rest of the teams to staying relevant without Gilman and McDonogh because no one will care. The MIAA will officially be a joke!

[TheGuru]

I had heard this would probably happen back in the summer. I posted about it in that long thread with every teams schedules in it in June or July.

Now you see why getting SFA to the A Conference was so important to the Catholic Schools. It gives them a super-majority (greater than 2/3s) over McDonogh/Gilman, who I'm fairly certain cast the 2 dissenting votes.

That being said, I'm not overly sad to see the playoffs go. It was pretty messed up to begin with with the seedings and the point system I don't think anyone ever figured out.

However, I don't think the MIAA is a good fit for McDonogh or Gilman long-term. Anything they want to push that CHC/Loyola doesn't want will be shot down by those 2 schools and the other 3 Catholic schools, who are pretty much CHC/Loyola's lapdogs. I think the time has come to form a new league of like minded schools, spearheaded by McDonogh/Gilman, maybe on a more regional scale.

Were the schools that voted for the playoffs the first time around lapdogs for Gilman & McDonogh? It seems that jealousy on those two institutions' part created this whole mess in the first place. While the Gilman/McDonogh game has been played for more years, the Turkey Bowl is a more marquee game that draws more fans and is televised locally. Those two facts alone make it a more relevant rivalry game only surpassed in MD by City/Poly.

At least CHC and Loyola had the foresight to vote their convictions both times. Finally, the Gilman & McDonogh alumni got enough sense to stage a coup against Emperor Biff and Crown Prince Dom.

[TheGuru]

I agree, it's time for Gilman and McDonogh to leave this league. It has officially now become a joke!! CHC and Loyola have now officially thrown in the towel and said that they can't compete and don't want to. They realize that more than likely they will never beat Gilman again and if they do their best chance to ever win is to play a weak a s s schedule and hope that Gilman is worn out and injured when they play, so that they can get the upset! The rest of the MIAA are jokes as well for following suit with them!

The time has come to leave this league Gilman and McDonogh. I think you're right, this is probably the last straw. Good luck to the rest of the teams to staying relevant without Gilman and McDonogh because no one will care. The MIAA will officially be a joke!

Don't you get it? Gilman and McDonogh alumni forced a second vote. CHC was powerless to stop it the first time around and Gildonogh suffered the same fate in the second vote. You have no clue of what you speak. Your hatred for the Cardinals has blinded you from reality. The CHC schedule will be much improved next season. You can take that to the bank.

[Outside Looking In]

I agree, it's time for Gilman and McDonogh to leave this league. It has officially now become a joke!! CHC and Loyola have now officially thrown in the towel and said that they can't compete and don't want to. They realize that more than likely they will never beat Gilman again and if they do their best chance to ever win is to play a weak a s s schedule and hope that Gilman is worn out and injured when they play, so that they can get the upset! The rest of the MIAA are jokes as well for following suit with them!

The time has come to leave this league Gilman and McDonogh. I think you're right, this is probably the last straw. Good luck to the rest of the teams to staying relevant without Gilman and McDonogh because no one will care. The MIAA will officially be a joke!

Maybe the other schools dont want to sell their souls to be football powerhouses. Maybe they want to focus on a good institution of education and put their resources that they do have and play football in the meantime. Isnt football and all sports supposed to be extracurricular, which usually means educations come before football?

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Don't you get it? Gilman and McDonogh alumni forced a second vote. CHC was powerless to stop it the first time around and Gildonogh suffered the same fate in the second vote. You have no clue of what you speak. Your hatred for the Cardinals has blinded you from reality. The CHC schedule will be much improved next season. You can take that to the bank.

How did the Gilman and McDonogh alumni force a second vote? I'm an alumnus, I wasn't asked anything about this. Now if you're saying that the Gilman and McDonogh alumni on the board did this that's something else. So are you saying that Gilman and McDonogh's board members forced a second vote and lost the vote? I'm not sure what you're saying.

I have no hatred whatsoever for CHC, they are irrelevant! They won 2 games and now have lost 4 in a row. Gilman is back to being their daddy as FD says. I know you know that Gilman is getting their picks on that super Hamilton team. They are also bringing in some of PG and Mont. County best as well. It was going to be ugly anyway for the next few years, so it's time for Gilman and McD to leave.

Playoffs has nothing to do with being jealous of the Turkey Bowl. I'm sure Insider as a McD alum can tell you that neither one of the 2 schools even speak on that game. It's a pointless game to everyone outside of the two schools. No one cares about this game! Especially since both teams aren't a threat to winning anything!

As far as CHC's schedule being better, why because they are playing the worst GC team in 6 years?

[TheGuru]

How did the Gilman and McDonogh alumni force a second vote? I'm an alumnus, I wasn't asked anything about this. Now if you're saying that the Gilman and McDonogh alumni on the board did this that's something else. So are you saying that Gilman and McDonogh's board members forced a second vote and lost the vote? I'm not sure what you're saying.

I have no hatred whatsoever for CHC, they are irrelevant! They won 2 games and now have lost 4 in a row. Gilman is back to being their daddy as FD says. I know you know that Gilman is getting their picks on that super Hamilton team. They are also bringing in some of PG and Mont. County best as well. It was going to be ugly anyway for the next few years, so it's time for Gilman and McD to leave.

Playoffs has nothing to do with being jealous of the Turkey Bowl. I'm sure Insider as a McD alum can tell you that neither one of the 2 schools even speak on that game. It's a pointless game to everyone outside of the two schools. No one cares about this game! Especially since both teams aren't a threat to winning anything!

As far as CHC's schedule being better, why because they are playing the worst GC team in 6 years?

I wasn't a fly on the wall but I guess that the administrations of both schools may have ordered the King Biff-led MIAA board to bring the issue to another vote. Maybe someone knew that SFA would swing the balance of power the other way this time.

Good Counsel and the MIAA schools account for only 7 games. That leaves about 4-5 games against other teams. Gilman has shown that their are a myriad of possibilities. One or two out of state teams. Maybe a local power or two from the MPSSAA ranks. I'll let you know around the usual time next spring.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I wasn't a fly on the wall but I guess that the administrations of both schools may have ordered the King Biff-led MIAA board to bring the issue to another vote. Maybe someone knew that SFA would swing the balance of power the other way this time.

Good Counsel and the MIAA schools account for only 7 games. That leaves about 4-5 games against other teams. Gilman has shown that their are a myriad of possibilities. One or two out of state teams. Maybe a local power or two from the MPSSAA ranks. I'll let you know around the usual time next spring.

Not sure who told you this but I promise you that Gilman's administration didn't ask for another vote. That is pure propaganda. Biff not only is staying as the head coach but was just given a new contract by the administrator. The new headmaster is actually already the associate Headmaster and one of the reasons he was picked was because he is keeping things status quo with the football team. No way would the administration go against Biff. This is some more CHC/Loyola spin to divert what really happened.

[harcohorns]

How did the Gilman and McDonogh alumni force a second vote? I'm an alumnus, I wasn't asked anything about this. Now if you're saying that the Gilman and McDonogh alumni on the board did this that's something else. So are you saying that Gilman and McDonogh's board members forced a second vote and lost the vote? I'm not sure what you're saying.

I have no hatred whatsoever for CHC, they are irrelevant! They won 2 games and now have lost 4 in a row. Gilman is back to being their daddy as FD says. I know you know that Gilman is getting their picks on that super Hamilton team. They are also bringing in some of PG and Mont. County best as well. It was going to be ugly anyway for the next few years, so it's time for Gilman and McD to leave.

Playoffs has nothing to do with being jealous of the Turkey Bowl. I'm sure Insider as a McD alum can tell you that neither one of the 2 schools even speak on that game. It's a pointless game to everyone outside of the two schools. No one cares about this game! Especially since both teams aren't a threat to winning anything!

As far as CHC's schedule being better, why because they are playing the worst GC team in 6 years?

Super Hamilton team that Harco Beat in the MAFL Championship.... ok sorry had to throw that in there,,, now back to the reguarly scheduled MIAA debate...

[RM7]

Well I do now that two CHC coaches told me at seprate times during the season that CHC is all for the playoffs. They were happy with the set up and how it was built around the turkey bowl. They also were one of the programs that pushed for the JV championship game to. I don't know were Watson got his info from but I can see CHC voting for the playoffs.