Classic John Harbaugh

[OriginalColtsFan]

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/video...d-a747c3f876f4

It's not even "coach speak". I've been listening to him since he was named head coach. Just about EVERY INTERVIEW has him using the phrase: "I think..." In this instance, after having promoted Jim Caldwell to the position of OC, and with all the spotlights shining brighter than ever, Harbaugh, in talking about the new offense, says:

"I think it'll have Jim's imprint on it".

REALLY, John?!!! You think the new offense will have Jim's imprint on it? Wow. You are a great NFL head coach, man. SO decisive. SUCH a strong leader. Wow. Just wow.

On a more interesting note...

listen to Ray Rice's comment about Jim Caldwell having the respect of the guys in the locker room. And read between the lines. He's clearly suggesting that Cameron did NOT have the respect of the guys in the locker room. At least that's the way I'm reading it. (Also, Ray's bias towards wanting to keep the emphasis on the running game is obvious as well, rightly, or wrongly.)

[Frank Costanza 831]

I'm as happy as the next guy that Cam is gone but it's time to give this clown his papers too. You see those guys on the sidelines holding the megaphones and tossing the cheerleaders up in the air? I think that's about the level of "coaching" that Fraudbaugh is qualified for. He's nothing but a male cheerleader and he looks about as clueless as possible in his press conferences and on the sidelines. Has anyone ever seen this guy do any actual coaching?

[OriginalColtsFan]

I'm as happy as the next guy that Cam is gone but it's time to give this clown his papers too. You see those guys on the sidelines holding the megaphones and tossing the cheerleaders up in the air? I think that's about the level of "coaching" that Fraudbaugh is qualified for. He's nothing but a male cheerleader and he looks about as clueless as possible in his press conferences and on the sidelines. Has anyone ever seen this guy do any actual coaching?

The only coaching he attempted to do was have the guys practice in pads after the bye, and there was a mutiny from which he eventually backed down. So no...can't really say I've seen him do any real coaching.



But seriously...he must do SOMETHING with all his time, wouldn't ya think?!!! What do you think he's doing? He obviously wasn't going to the offensive meetings. Maybe ST's and D? Who knows? I just with he'd shut up and stop talking. At least that way he wouldn't appear to be so...lame.

[Frank Costanza 831]

The only coaching he attempted to do was have the guys practice in pads after the bye, and there was a mutiny from which he eventually backed down. So now...can't really say I've seen him do any real coaching.

Never seen a guy that gets so continuously outcoached week after week after week. Andy Reid made him look like a complete and total idiot earlier this year and that is really saying something

[tigercruise]

He obviously wasn't going to the offensive meetings.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Harbaugh tell us after last year's dismal performance by Cam and the offense that he [Harbaugh] was going to have more participation in the offense?

[OriginalColtsFan]

Never seen a guy that gets so continuously outcoached week after week after week. Andy Reid made him look like a complete and total idiot earlier this year and that is really saying something

The funny thing was watching Phillips's smile on the sideline as he was handing Harbaugh and Co. his head.

[Brohan]

In fairness to coach mighty man, no one can work under a meddling cup-sniffer like Biscotti who undermines his staff and every turn just so his players will like him.

[OriginalColtsFan]

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Harbaugh tell us after last year's dismal performance by Cam and the offense that he [Harbaugh] was going to have more participation in the offense?

He certainly did. Did you see any sign of that? When asked about something that had to do with the offense several weeks ago, Harbaugh was as clueless this year as he was last year.

[tigercruise]

He certainly did. Did you see any sign of that? When asked about something that had to do with the offense several weeks ago, Harbaugh was as clueless this year as he was last year.

So here we have a coach who last year promised he would get more involved in the offense (my bet is Bisciotti wanted to dump Cam at the end of last year and Harbaugh intervened) and one of two things happened. Either he didn't get involved like he promised or he did get involved and it solved nothing but in fact made it worse.

Personally, I think Harbaugh is finished as head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.

[OriginalColtsFan]

So here we have a coach who last year promised he would get more involved in the offense (my bet is Bisciotti wanted to dump Cam at the end of last year and Harbaugh intervened) and one of two things happened. Either he didn't get involved like he promised or he did get involved and it solved nothing but in fact made it worse.

Personally, I think Harbaugh is finished as head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.

I think he should be replaced, but I doubt that he will. Bisciotti seems to crave "consistency", and making the playoffs 5 years running is certainly "consistent". I'm just not sure the case could be made to Bisciotti's satisfaction that Harbaugh needs to go.

[Frank Costanza 831]

In fairness to coach mighty man, no one can work under a meddling cup-sniffer like Biscotti who undermines his staff and every turn just so his players will like him.

Give me an example of Biscotti undermining his staff. He's the total opposite of a meddling owner. If you want an example of a meddling owner take a look to the stadium across the parking lot

[Brohan]

Give me an example of Biscotti undermining his staff. He's the total opposite of a meddling owner. If you want an example of a meddling owner take a look to the stadium across the parking lot

Firing Cam Cameron.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Give me an example of Biscotti undermining his staff. He's the total opposite of a meddling owner. If you want an example of a meddling owner take a look to the stadium across the parking lot

Well, for one, before the negotiations even began with Ray Lewis, Bisciotti said that Ray Lewis was going to retire a Raven. Don't you think that that undermines the authority of the FO?

Now, having said that, I think that for the most part, Bisciotti takes a very hands off approach -- especially compared to owners like Snyder and Jones, and formerly Al Davis, may he rest in peace. So if anything, I think the issue with Ray Lewis might be a case of the exception that proves the rule. So I'm not busting your balls; just providing you with one example where I feel the owner undermined the authority of the GM. But other than that, I think Bisciotti, if anything, has taken too much of a hands off approach. So basically, you can't make everybody happy.

[tigercruise]

I think he should be replaced, but I doubt that he will. Bisciotti seems to crave "consistency", and making the playoffs 5 years running is certainly "consistent". I'm just not sure the case could be made to Bisciotti's satisfaction that Harbaugh needs to go.

I think the firing of Cameron was a wake up call for Harbaugh. I doubt very seriously he saw that coming from Bisciotti. I don't blame Bisciotti one bit. I don't know how he stood it this long.

If the Ravens do not make the playoffs, and there's a chance they won't, Harbaugh is gone!

[OriginalColtsFan]

I think the firing of Cameron was a wake up call for Harbaugh. I doubt very seriously he saw that coming from Bisciotti. I don't blame Bisciotti one bit. I don't know how he stood it this long.

If the Ravens do not make the playoffs, and there's a chance they won't, Harbaugh is gone!

1. The firing of Cameron sure shocked the chit out of me, and very well might be the wake up call Harbaugh needs.
2. It's virtually impossible for the Ravens NOT to at least make the playoffs as a WC team. It would require a tie between the Steelers and Bengals, and the Ravens losing out to happen, because of the games remaining and the schedule.
3. If he's as much of a sports fan as has been stated in the press, and if he's the least bit competitive, I don't now how he stood it this long either.

[Rael]

I think the firing of Cameron was a wake up call for Harbaugh. I doubt very seriously he saw that coming from Bisciotti. I don't blame Bisciotti one bit. I don't know how he stood it this long.

If the Ravens do not make the playoffs, and there's a chance they won't, Harbaugh is gone!

I believe in order for the Ravens to not make the playoffs we would need to lose our last three, Steelers and Bengals win both non-common games, and then the Steelers and Bengals tie when they play each other. Could it happen? I suppose. I'd be willing to bet huge money that it doesn't though.

[Brohan]

I think the firing of Cameron was a wake up call for Harbaugh. I doubt very seriously he saw that coming from Bisciotti. I don't blame Bisciotti one bit. I don't know how he stood it this long.

If the Ravens do not make the playoffs, and there's a chance they won't, Harbaugh is gone!

What if they continue to be one of the two most panalized teams in the league? Wasn't Johnny hired to fix that? Maybe if the owner would stop meddling....just sayin'.

[OriginalColtsFan]

LOL. So now the "new mantra" of the perennial troll Brohan is: "It's all the meddling owner's fault". Then, down the road, he'll post: "No, you aren't taking into account what I said good about Bisciotti when he bought the team". Just like his flip flop about Cameron after defending him tooth and nail for years. (i.e. I TOLD YOU ALL when they brought in Cameron that he wasn't that great.)

Seriously...it just never ends with this guy.

[Brohan]

LOL. So now the "new mantra" of the perennial troll Brohan is: "It's all the meddling owner's fault". Then, down the road, he'll post: "No, you aren't taking into account what I said good about Bisciotti when he bought the team". Just like his flip flop about Cameron after defending him tooth and nail for years. (i.e. I TOLD YOU ALL when they brought in Cameron that he wasn't that great.)

Seriously...it just never ends with this guy.

I love it! I say jump, you say how high? Don't hurt your arms hanging on my every post.

[tacker]

As if Cam wasn't bad enough, we have Harbaugh "defending" Cameron by saying it was his call to take a knee with 23 second left the other day. Am I supposed to feel so much better, now, knowing it was the head coach, who made that weak-kneed, defeatist call, rather than our pathetic former offensive coordinator?

Seems to me that I see a pattern here. Harbaugh is scared of his own shadow, too, and he surrounds himself with others who are as cautious as he is, or more. We can throw Coach Pees in there, too. They have an unimaginative, play-it-safe mantra that pervades the organization on the field, and that doesn't win ballgames against top clubs.