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    Caldwell plans to bring pace and collaboration to the offense. Not sure what the hell that means but this part bothers me:

    The plan is for Caldwell, who remains the quarterbacks coach, to communicate the plays to Hostler, a former San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator, with Hostler relaying the plays to Flacco through a headset.
    Why go through Hostler? Why not talk to Flacco directly? Just seems like one extra step that could slow things down. Makes you wonder if Caldwell is really calling the plays. Just seems odd relaying the call to another coach and then to Flacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigercruise View Post
    Caldwell plans to bring pace and collaboration to the offense. Not sure what the hell that means but this part bothers me:



    Why go through Hostler? Why not talk to Flacco directly? Just seems like one extra step that could slow things down. Makes you wonder if Caldwell is really calling the plays. Just seems odd relaying the call to another coach and then to Flacco.
    Watch the games closely and see that Flacco is talking to SOMEONE on the phone whenever he comes off the field after a drive, successful or not. Cam and Hostetler are both on the sidelines (well "were" and "is" to be exact).

    If the OC wants to be in the booth in order to see the broader picture, relies on his position coaches and listens to his QB directly, don't you think that will be an improvement over an OC who stands on the sidelines, takes little or no input from his veterans, etc....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigercruise View Post
    Caldwell plans to bring pace and collaboration to the offense. Not sure what the hell that means but this part bothers me:



    Why go through Hostler? Why not talk to Flacco directly? Just seems like one extra step that could slow things down. Makes you wonder if Caldwell is really calling the plays. Just seems odd relaying the call to another coach and then to Flacco.
    I'm sure Caldwell will be calling the plays. And most good OCs feel that they can see the field better from the booth. It struck me at first the same way it struck you -- that it's an extra step that will be more time consuming and could lead to delays. He also said things could change and he could end up down on the sideline if there are any problems. I guess we'll have to just wait and see how it works out. Hopefully things will go more smoothly than they did with Cameron. If not, they'll have to figure out a better system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peej7245 View Post
    Watch the games closely and see that Flacco is talking to SOMEONE on the phone whenever he comes off the field after a drive, successful or not. Cam and Hostetler are both on the sidelines (well "were" and "is" to be exact).

    If the OC wants to be in the booth in order to see the broader picture, relies on his position coaches and listens to his QB directly, don't you think that will be an improvement over an OC who stands on the sidelines, takes little or no input from his veterans, etc....?
    I'm not overly concerned, but I do think that because there's an extra step it opens the door for delays and problems. We'll just have to see how it all plays out.

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    None of this is even going to matter much Sunday IMHO. Because unless Ray and Suggs are out there (and possibly even if they are) I see Manning picking apart this defense and lighting up the scoreboard like never seen by an opponent in a Ravens home game. He could set a record for points scored by the opposition this game at home. The score could end up something like 54-24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go! View Post
    None of this is even going to matter much Sunday IMHO. Because unless Ray and Suggs are out there (and possibly even if they are) I see Manning picking apart this defense and lighting up the scoreboard like never seen by an opponent in a Ravens home game. He could set a record for points scored by the opposition this game at home. The score could end up something like 54-24.
    That's a definite possibility. But we're only talking about the offense, here. And it's also possible, with the talent that the Ravens have (crappy O-line notwithstanding), that if he pushes the right buttons, Caldwell's offense could easily put up 42-49 points as well. A couple TD's/quarter. The thought of using Jones and Smith to take up some double coverage, and Boldin in a slant, and Pitta over the middle, and Ray Rice in space, and Pierce busting off some big runs north/south, and Doss getting some big first downs...this team HAS the potential, it's just that it got stifled under Cameron's idiocy. We'll just have to wait and see.

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    Watching the video of the Caldwell interview, I think he nailed it at the very end, when asked what his philosophy is. His answer? "Score as many as you can, as often as you can". THAT'S what an offense is supposed to do, IMO! It's not the O's job to keep the opposing offense on the bench. It's job is to SCORE POINTS, period. And Caldwell seems to understand that. Other Ravens coaches did NOT seem to understand or emphasize that. Caldwell DOES seem to "get it". And now it all boils down to dialing up the right schemes and the players executing those schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Watching the video of the Caldwell interview, I think he nailed it at the very end, when asked what his philosophy is. His answer? "Score as many as you can, as often as you can". THAT'S what an offense is supposed to do, IMO! It's not the O's job to keep the opposing offense on the bench. It's job is to SCORE POINTS, period. And Caldwell seems to understand that. Other Ravens coaches did NOT seem to understand or emphasize that. Caldwell DOES seem to "get it". And now it all boils down to dialing up the right schemes and the players executing those schemes.
    If that translates into being aggressive then let the games begin. All too often we saw Cameron stick his tail between his legs and take the conservative approach. Trying not to lose instead of trying to win. Damn right, play balls out and put the points on the board. I like the way he thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigercruise View Post
    If that translates into being aggressive then let the games begin. All too often we saw Cameron stick his tail between his legs and take the conservative approach. Trying not to lose instead of trying to win. Damn right, play balls out and put the points on the board. I like the way he thinks.
    And there was no hesitation when he said it. Not like listening to Harbaugh and his endless: "I think we should do this...I think we should do that...I think this is where the team is headed..." etc. With Caldwell, it was clear and unequivocal...score as many as we can, as often as we can. And he was smiling when he said it; as if he really enjoys dialing up an aggressive offense. If the Ravens go down swinging, that's okay in my book. If they run with their tail between their legs like Cameron did, it's just nauseating.

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    This is as much about NEXT year as it is this year. If Calwell runs an all out offense there will be a lot of happy Ravens fans regardless of what the final score is. Put Joe in the shotgun with the no huddle and lets see where we can go. I bet its farther than a lot of the experts are predicting.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigercruise View Post
    If that translates into being aggressive then let the games begin. All too often we saw Cameron stick his tail between his legs and take the conservative approach. Trying not to lose instead of trying to win. Damn right, play balls out and put the points on the board. I like the way he thinks.

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