Let Flacco walk

[Ravens2006]

Where was this talk when he beat Brady earlier in the season? Idiot.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Where was this talk when he beat Brady earlier in the season? Idiot.

Ravens fans are funny.

[atomic]

let flacco walk. time to rebuild. the defense is weak, the o-line is weak. I wish they didn't give rice all that money. Too much spend on a running back. Could be used elsewhere.

[West Chester Raven]

let flacco walk. time to rebuild. the defense is weak, the o-line is weak. I wish they didn't give rice all that money. Too much spend on a running back. Could be used elsewhere.

I understand your sentiment, but Rice is a player. We gotta have someone on the offense assume a leadership role and from what I've seen that is Ray Rice.

[jamesdean]

I think I'm one of the few that just accepted Flacco for what he is right from the get go. I've always thought he was good enough to lead this team to a Super Bowl as long as he had talent around him and didn't have to take over games. I still feel that way. Behind this horrendous offensive line, you would literally HAVE to have a Tom Brady quarterbacking to even stand a chance and even he would have his problems. Flacco just gets very little pass protection on any down so there's only so much he can do. Still, that's no excuse for him morphing into a turnover machine this year. I know I sound like a broken record but unless the Ravens run the ball at least 30-35 times a game(Rice/Pierce-if he plays next week), they really stand no chance. The line is that bad.

[44Defense]

Maybe the Ravens will pull an NBA move and sign & trade Wacco to a team desperate for a NFL-ready QB. Then they can take that team's 2013 1st round draft pick and choose another QB to start over with.

I like the way you think. It would be a great move if they could pull that off. Joe is going to throw for 4000 yards this year. Has been a playoff QB every year in his career. Somebody will pay him big bucks. The problem is our meddeling owner has a man crush on him so expect the Ravens to franchise or sign Flacco,

[TDL]

I think I'm one of the few that just accepted Flacco for what he is right from the get go. I've always thought he was good enough to lead this team to a Super Bowl as long as he had talent around him and didn't have to take over games. I still feel that way. Behind this horrendous offensive line, you would literally HAVE to have a Tom Brady quarterbacking to even stand a chance and even he would have his problems. Flacco just gets very little pass protection on any down so there's only so much he can do. Still, that's no excuse for him morphing into a turnover machine this year. I know I sound like a broken record but unless the Ravens run the ball at least 30-35 times a game(Rice/Pierce-if he plays next week), they really stand no chance. The line is that bad.

I completely agree.

He is a role player QB and not the leader type who will carry the team or elevate the play of those around him.He is not the kind of QB you pay $16 million plus a year.If he wants more than $10-13 million per season you have to let him walk because they're gonna need that extra cap space in order for him to stand a chance at being successful.

[cprenegade]

I think I'm one of the few that just accepted Flacco for what he is right from the get go. I've always thought he was good enough to lead this team to a Super Bowl as long as he had talent around him and didn't have to take over games. I still feel that way. Behind this horrendous offensive line, you would literally HAVE to have a Tom Brady quarterbacking to even stand a chance and even he would have his problems. Flacco just gets very little pass protection on any down so there's only so much he can do. Still, that's no excuse for him morphing into a turnover machine this year. I know I sound like a broken record but unless the Ravens run the ball at least 30-35 times a game(Rice/Pierce-if he plays next week), they really stand no chance. The line is that bad.

I agree. Flacco isn't going anywhere. He will be the QB here next year simply because there is no better option. He is never going to be a superstar, but he can be a effective game manager with the right pay calling. He has a good arm, and can be good second tier QB, but at this point he has no offensive line and play calling that doesn't play into his effectiveness. His decision making is at times questionable, most notably the horrible telegraphed out pass that turned into the backbreaker. He never even looked for another option and tried to force a pass that was easily picked for six. You can't do that as an NFL QB in a game that could have been different even if the Raven's only get 3 points there. I don't think the outcome would have been different even if the Raven's got a TD, but at least it gave them a chance. That play totally deflated the entire team and ended any possibility of winning. But the point is that there is nobody better so the Raven's have little choice but to stick with Flacco, or tear it all down and start over from scratch.

[tacker]

I agree. Flacco isn't going anywhere. He will be the QB here next year simply because there is no better option. He is never going to be a superstar, but he can be a effective game manager with the right pay calling. He has a good arm, and can be good second tier QB, but at this point he has no offensive line and play calling that doesn't play into his effectiveness. His decision making is at times questionable, most notably the horrible telegraphed out pass that turned into the backbreaker. He never even looked for another option and tried to force a pass that was easily picked for six. You can't do that as an NFL QB in a game that could have been different even if the Raven's only get 3 points there. I don't think the outcome would have been different even if the Raven's got a TD, but at least it gave them a chance. That play totally deflated the entire team and ended any possibility of winning. But the point is that there is nobody better so the Raven's have little choice but to stick with Flacco, or tear it all down and start over from scratch.

OK, count my vote for tear it all down and restart from scratch. They risk locking themselves into years of mediocre, or worse, performance if they try to avoid reality.

-- Let Flacco walk, and sign the best free agent available or make a trade (heck, the 'Skins' backup is better than Flacco)
-- Give Ed Reed and Ray Lewis wonderful retirement parties; if they disagree, then trade them for anything they can bring
-- Even think of trading Ray Rice. "What?," some will say. They guy is good, but not THAT good, and he won't be of much use during a rebuilding period, and he could probably bring multiple valuable players/picks
-- Tell Harbaugh and anybody else on his staff not to let the door hit them on the way out. Maybe, Ozzie, too.
-- Consider any other veteran players for trade, too, depending on what they could bring

Yes, this may entail a few lean years, but the Ravens might be able to regenerate a true contender for all the marbles, rather than just trying to limp along with the appearance of being competitive, but not really being elite in any regard.
Do I expect them to be bold and genuinely blow it all up? Of course not. It's obvious that the Ravens, as an organization, tred in a careful, measured way and would never do anything so bold.

I'm not a sister kisser. Go for it.

[RAVEN FAN]

FLACCO is worth a raise but i would not give him the millions he want not how he is playing this year. however i think the O line cannot protect him from getting sacked. i hope we do draft a QB a real good one.

[Slidemaster]

Who do you replace him with?

Honestly, whoever. The only way to get a true franchise QB is to get absurdly lucky like GB did with Aaron Rodgers, or to suck it up and be absolutely terrible for a year to get a draft pick high enough to get one. I'd let Flacco go, load up on young O-line and D-line talent in this draft (it's overflowing with both), and then just go 4-12 next year and get the top QB in the draft.

[bmore_ken]

Honestly, whoever. The only way to get a true franchise QB is to get absurdly lucky like GB did with Aaron Rodgers, or to suck it up and be absolutely terrible for a year to get a draft pick high enough to get one. I'd let Flacco go, load up on young O-line and D-line talent in this draft (it's overflowing with both), and then just go 4-12 next year and get the top QB in the draft.

yeah this will be a lovely place to post during a 4-12 season

[SugarRay52]

Honestly, whoever. The only way to get a true franchise QB is to get absurdly lucky like GB did with Aaron Rodgers, or to suck it up and be absolutely terrible for a year to get a draft pick high enough to get one. I'd let Flacco go, load up on young O-line and D-line talent in this draft (it's overflowing with both), and then just go 4-12 next year and get the top QB in the draft.

Slide you can barely handle them being 9-5 how can you expect to be ok with them being 4-12? Second of all they tried this approach in 2007 but other teams were worst than them so they lost out on Matt Ryan. Everything would have to workout perfectly for your plan to work. You also said lucky, you expect the Ravens to be lucky? Child Please You expect Harbaugh to get better as a coach? Child Please You're emotional right now and just not thinking this out carefully.

[tyrexden]

"This guy sucks!" - Dilfer.

[SugarRay52]

"This guy sucks!" - Dilfer.

Flacco 10-0 against the Browns, goodbye.

[bmore_ken]

"This guy sucks!" - Dilfer.

HA HA HA HA A Browns fan, that's the biggest joke I've heard all year