"Gun Free Zone" Massacres

[ivanbalt]

If that is true, tell us your reason why.

This country wasn't obsessed with violence in every day life.

[Jeebus]

And when a student steals this gun and accidentally shoots themselves or someone else?

Perhaps we need more anti-stealing laws? Oh, right.

Do you really think teachers in Baltimore should have loaded guns nearby in a purse or boot or something?

Purse was a bad example for a teacher, unless they are carrying some sort of "belt purse" type of holstered firearm.

But yes, I favor each and every law-abiding citizen the right to self defense, regardless of their profession. A teacher should not be denied the equal protection of the law just because they are in a school, which seem to be big target-rich environments to a deranged murderer.

[Jeebus]

This country wasn't obsessed with violence in every day life.

The country is obsessed with violence in every day life now because.....

[ivanbalt]

Perhaps we need more anti-stealing laws? Oh, right.

It's called common sense.

[Jeebus]

It's called common sense.

And Baltimore students don't have any?

I'm not sure where you are going with your argument...

[ivanbalt]

The country is obsessed with violence in every day life now because.....

You're kidding right?

More ultra violence in music, movies, games, etc.

Look at the news. Violence here, violence there. 24 hour news shoving violence down our throat.

People freak out about a breast on tv, yet there's no limit to violence in shows and such.

[ivanbalt]

And Baltimore students don't have any?

I'm not sure where you are going with your argument...

Kids bring guns to schools. It happens at least a few times a year. But yeah, they'll have no interest in a teacher's gun.

[bmore_ken]

Gun owners are not trained either unless they choose to be!

I agree. Hence my issue with CC laws

[Jeebus]

You're kidding right?

More ultra violence in music, movies, games, etc.

Look at the news. Violence here, violence there. 24 hour news shoving violence down our throat.

People freak out about a breast on tv, yet there's no limit to violence in shows and such.

So we need to chance culture, not pass more anti-gun laws.

I agree with you.

How do we do it without infringing on people's "rights"?

[ivanbalt]

So we need to chance culture, not pass more anti-gun laws.

I agree with you.

How do we do it without infringing on people's "rights"?

Nothing will change it and nothing will improve.

[Jeebus]

You're kidding right?

More ultra violence in music, movies, games, etc.

Look at the news. Violence here, violence there. 24 hour news shoving violence down our throat.

People freak out about a breast on tv, yet there's no limit to violence in shows and such.

Nothing will change it and nothing will improve.

So we just have to accept the fact that violent people will continue to enter schools and slaughter children?

I guess it's up to each and every person to decide whether they want to be a victim or not, whether the "law" gives them the choice or not.

[Gopher]

My wife is a teacher. She is more than proficient with a firearm. However, she wouldn’t want that responsibility and I don’t have a problem with that. They have six security officers at her school. One of the security officers is a police officer and carries a weapon. No problems or complaints that I am aware of. Unfortunately, that police officer is also assigned security at two other schools and may be off campus for extended periods of time during the day. Of the remaining five that are on campus for the entire school day, two are retired police officers. Not an uncommon occurrence in this particular jurisdiction. Retired law enforcement, ex-military, corrections officers, etc. There are plenty of those types of resources and others available. Relax the restrictions and allow them to carry their weapons. Get the Fed’s out of the picture and let the states decide and implement the appropriate security for their schools. Washington, D.C. is not the solution. It’s the problem. There are ways to make it happen and provide some protection if there is a will to get it done. For you goofs that think that banning the private possession of firearms is the solution then you may as well get used to burying your children because that’s never going to happen.

[soulflower]

Get the Fed’s out of the picture and let the states decide and implement the appropriate security for their schools. Washington, D.C. is not the solution. It’s the problem.

Federal funds help support all types of state programs. Are you saying there's no role for the Federal government in helping states provide armed security in schools?

[Phoenix]

Because if my child catches a stray bullet in school because some teacher missed his target, I'd track him down and kill him

You sir, have just confirmed that you are unfit to be in possession of any firearm, concealed or not. You are not judge, jury and executioner, but merely a lynch man, doing what similar lawbreakers did to your forefathers over a hundred fifty years ago.

You have violated the first rule of responsible gun ownership in losing your cool.

Tsk, tsk, permit application for Baltimore Ken denied, due to disorderly conduct unbecoming of a responsible gun owner.

[slapshot]

You sir, have just confirmed that you are unfit to be in possession of any firearm, concealed or not. You are not judge, jury and executioner, but merely a lynch man, doing what similar lawbreakers did to your forefathers over a hundred fifty years ago.

You have violated the first rule of responsible gun ownership in losing your cool.

Tsk, tsk, permit application for Baltimore Ken denied, due to disorderly conduct unbecoming of a responsible gun owner.

Wasn't this mother "a responsible gun owner"?

Look where that got her?

[bmore_ken]

You sir, have just confirmed that you are unfit to be in possession of any firearm, concealed or not. You are not judge, jury and executioner, but merely a lynch man, doing what similar lawbreakers did to your forefathers over a hundred fifty years ago.

You have violated the first rule of responsible gun ownership in losing your cool.

Tsk, tsk, permit application for Baltimore Ken denied, due to disorderly conduct unbecoming of a responsible gun owner.

If someone kills my 9 yr old son, you damn right I'm losing my cool. Any parent would. Incidentally since I'm against CC I would never apply and therefore never denied. You feel free to mourn your child because he or she was killed by a teacher who had no business with a gun. Oh and by the way for the record I am a very responsible gun owner of almost 30 years

[Calamari]

The Lanza's home was certainly not a gun free zone. How much good did that do his mother, who taught him how to kill?

[Phoenix]

If someone kills my 9 yr old son, you damn right I'm losing my cool. Any parent would. Incidentally since I'm against CC I would never apply and therefore never denied. You feel free to mourn your child because he or she was killed by a teacher who had no business with a gun. Oh and by the way for the record I am a very responsible gun owner of almost 30 years

I think that the parents of those 20 children, if they had an option, would have all preferred to have any one of the teachers present packing steel, which would undoubtedly, resulted in fewer than 20 children being killed outright.

In warfare, nothing is guaranteed. Friendly fire results in casualties whenever bullet fly.

We have endured more than 10 years of "Gun Free Zones" and that concept has proven utterly and completely insane, if not asinine.

I am so glad that you do not show any motivation towards obtaining your concealed carry permit. In going on public record as intentionally "losing you cool", unlike any of the parents who suffered real tragedy last week, you sir have no business even touching a firearm.

[flyboy56]

The Lanza's home was certainly not a gun free zone. How much good did that do his mother, who taught him how to kill?

How do we know she didn't beg him to kill her? Just thought I'd throw out another assumption with all the rest.

[OldBay]

Because if my child catches a stray bullet in school because some teacher missed his target, I'd track him down and kill him

Teachers view their students as "their kids".

If your kids see active duty in the military and are hit by friendly fire, who will you go after then?