Assault Weapons Should Be Banned For Genral Public Use !!!

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

'Morning Joe'

Unless we make some real changes this time it will happen again. And it can even happen worse.

Do you include ALL semi -automatic rifles in this?

How about this one? Please take a look. Should this be included?

http://www.remington.com/en/product-...model-750.aspx

I read the proposed AWB this morning. It bans magazines over 10 rounds.

The above rifle is no different from an AR15 with a ten round magazine, except that the .243, .30-06 & .308 rounds it's commonly sold in, are vastly more powerful than the 5.56 round the AR15 is chambered in.

To be fair the Remington is shown with a 6 round magazine but 10 & 20 round magazines have been made for it.

It magazines are limited to ten rounds why should the rifle platform be banned?

Or do you believe EVERY SEMI_AUTOMATIC of every type should be banned?

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

There must be a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, if you want to fire them join the military. Lanza came to kill and was better armed then the first responders.

That's not a true statement as far as the responders were concerned. Look at the pictures. Right now the military is reducing in size and its actually hard to get in.

Your statement is based on emotion and ignorance.

[llubon]

That's not a true statement as far as the responders were concerned. Look at the pictures. Right now the military is reducing in size and its actually hard to get in.

Your statement is based on emotion and ignorance.

I'll repeat "First Responders". As to your second sentence the military is always looking for a few good men, they have people retiring and completing tours constantly while still being streamlined to be more effective.

[veritas]

1.The ban is a start in the right direction.
2. Hoping there will be no next mass murder but to answer your question as gruesome as this may sound there may less casualties if he walks in using two 6 shooters and trying to reload thereby giving someone time to act to stop the murderer.
3. It may have been over but what if the murderer hadn't heard them coming and taken the easy way out.

So you favor banning many varieties of handgun as well.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

I'll repeat "First Responders". As to your second sentence the military is always looking for a few good men, they have people retiring and completing tours constantly while still being streamlined to be more effective.

I'll repeat, the cops were not outgunned or outnumbered. If you mean medical personnel as first responders, to my knowledge, they don't go armed.

[genghiskhanraven]

Will this wonderful ban work as well as a ban on alcohol, or a ban on drugs?

Can we call it "prohibition?"....... will the reduction in crime and violence be immediate?

Ahhh, Nirvana will finally be here

No more firearm violence, ever

What a grand idea.....you are truly a genius

The ban does seem to work reasonably well in china, north Korea, uk, Japan etc
So yes if assault rifles were banned some criminals might try to ship them in but its safe to say it would be effective and we wouldn't see people on street corners selling assault weapons like they do drugs

[Privateer]

The ban does seem to work reasonably well in china, north Korea, uk, Japan etc
So yes if assault rifles were banned some criminals might try to ship them in but its safe to say it would be effective and we wouldn't see people on street corners selling assault weapons like they do drugs

Yeah bans work :-(

Chicago has a ban and look at how well that works ... It's so effective that the Pres. directly mentioned his home town while speaking about the CT shootings.

There is no "Silver Bullet" solution to Mark 1 Mod 0 brain defect - evil is evil so lets try not to blame the inanimate tools for the action of the individual.

[Smokey 1]

The ban does seem to work reasonably well in china, north Korea, uk, Japan etc
So yes if assault rifles were banned some criminals might try to ship them in but its safe to say it would be effective and we wouldn't see people on street corners selling assault weapons like they do drugs

Did those places have a high rate of gun ownership prior to the bans and if they did then did they have confiscations of those guns in citizens hands?

Gun confiscation would not work nor should it work here.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

The ban does seem to work reasonably well in china, north Korea, uk, Japan etc
So yes if assault rifles were banned some criminals might try to ship them in but its safe to say it would be effective and we wouldn't see people on street corners selling assault weapons like they do drugs

Every day THOUSANDS of pounds of illegal drugs enter this country in spite of our laws. It can't be stopped. A 1000 lbs of firearms occupies much less physical space than a 1000 lbs of drugs. Ban all firearms and see how long it takes for the legal purchase of firearms to be replaced by the illegal purchase.

Yes, the ban works in those places, where civil liberties are curtailed to the extent that I don't think Americans would stand for. Even in the UK, there's things that wouldn't go over well here with respect to police powers and holding people in custody.

Tell me, have you ever actually seen someone selling assault rifles on street corners?

[georjec2]

And I believe that finally we will have meaningful dialogue on gun restriction and access. Like the president said last night "we can't continue to tolerate this."

And tolerate is what we do and did with Columbine, Aurora, the college shootings, the Arizona shooting that left a congress woman nearly dead, the movie theater just a few months ago. The common factor? Guns and the seemingly easy access any nut job without a criminal backround has to obtaining weapons meant for war and all in the name of the 2nd amendment. The amendment needs to be revisited and if necessary changed. Period.

I'm not saying get rid of all guns or send the feds into people houses to confiscate existing semi automatic and automatic weapons, that toothpaste is out the tube. But there should be legislation to prohibit the sale and transportation or exchange of assault weapons.

I'd like to see that. I could live with that.

One more thing before some of you start moaning about "your rights" . Have any of your other "rights' been modified or revised to fit the current times that you go along with or is it just the 2nd amendment that is your Waterloo and the only way to get your warfare assault rifle is to pry it from your cold dead hands.

Don't worry, if you already have one keep it. But in the future no more sales to civilians till everyone learns not to shoot up classrooms of babies or churches, college campuses or movie theaters.

This time it's different. Watch and see.

[sushilover]

And I believe that finally we will have meaningful dialogue on gun restriction and access. Like the president said last night "we can't continue to tolerate this."

And tolerate is what we do and did with Columbine, Aurora, the college shootings, the Arizona shooting that left a congress woman nearly dead, the movie theater just a few months ago. The common factor? Guns and the seemingly easy access any nut job without a criminal backround has to obtaining weapons meant for war and all in the name of the 2nd amendment. The amendment needs to be revisited and if necessary changed. Period.

I'm not saying get rid of all guns or send the feds into people houses to confiscate existing semi automatic and automatic weapons, that toothpaste is out the tube. But there should be legislation to prohibit the sale and transportation or exchange of assault weapons.

I'd like to see that. I could live with that.

One more thing before some of you start moaning about "your rights" . Have any of your other "rights' been modified or revised to fit the current times that you go along with or is it just the 2nd amendment that is your Waterloo and the only way to get your warfare assault rifle is to pry it from your cold dead hands.

Don't worry, if you already have one keep it. But in the future no more sales to civilians till everyone learns not to shoot up classrooms of babies or churches, college campuses or movie theaters.

This time it's different. Watch and see.

This has already started to cycle out of the news.

You leftwingers will have to go whine about something else.

[Far from home]

And I believe that finally we will have meaningful dialogue on gun restriction and access. Like the president said last night "we can't continue to tolerate this."

And tolerate is what we do and did with Columbine, Aurora, the college shootings, the Arizona shooting that left a congress woman nearly dead, the movie theater just a few months ago. The common factor? Guns and the seemingly easy access any nut job without a criminal backround has to obtaining weapons meant for war and all in the name of the 2nd amendment. The amendment needs to be revisited and if necessary changed. Period.

I'm not saying get rid of all guns or send the feds into people houses to confiscate existing semi automatic and automatic weapons, that toothpaste is out the tube. But there should be legislation to prohibit the sale and transportation or exchange of assault weapons.

I'd like to see that. I could live with that.

One more thing before some of you start moaning about "your rights" . Have any of your other "rights' been modified or revised to fit the current times that you go along with or is it just the 2nd amendment that is your Waterloo and the only way to get your warfare assault rifle is to pry it from your cold dead hands.

Don't worry, if you already have one keep it. But in the future no more sales to civilians till everyone learns not to shoot up classrooms of babies or churches, college campuses or movie theaters.

This time it's different. Watch and see.

1. I don't see how owning a gun is only a "right-wing" idea. Many try to make this seem like it's a partisan issue, but it's not. This notion that those that own guns are warmongers is ridiculous. This is about the ability for honest citizens to have access to self-protection.
2. What kind of American can be such a hypocrite to scream about the legalization of drugs, then argue against guns? Drugs kill nearly 40K a year, while guns average 10K less. That doesn't count the number of deaths where the shootings were drug-related.
3. I own an assault rifle (despite being called a liberal by many people), but I've never shot up, nor do I plan on shooting up a classroom.
4. I do think that gun usage should require some sort of license, like a car. That shouldn't preclude someone from owning a gun, just like a car.

[BlandFood]

And I believe that finally we will have meaningful dialogue on gun restriction and access. Like the president said last night "we can't continue to tolerate this."

And tolerate is what we do and did with Columbine, Aurora, the college shootings, the Arizona shooting that left a congress woman nearly dead, the movie theater just a few months ago. The common factor? Guns and the seemingly easy access any nut job without a criminal backround has to obtaining weapons meant for war and all in the name of the 2nd amendment. The amendment needs to be revisited and if necessary changed. Period.

I'm not saying get rid of all guns or send the feds into people houses to confiscate existing semi automatic and automatic weapons, that toothpaste is out the tube. But there should be legislation to prohibit the sale and transportation or exchange of assault weapons.

I'd like to see that. I could live with that.

One more thing before some of you start moaning about "your rights" . Have any of your other "rights' been modified or revised to fit the current times that you go along with or is it just the 2nd amendment that is your Waterloo and the only way to get your warfare assault rifle is to pry it from your cold dead hands.

Don't worry, if you already have one keep it. But in the future no more sales to civilians till everyone learns not to shoot up classrooms of babies or churches, college campuses or movie theaters.

This time it's different. Watch and see.

So there will be a class on that? Laughner was all yours, an anti American flag burning nut high on dope. Sounds kinda like Bobo and his buddy Bill Ayres.

[dsummoner]

And I believe that finally we will have meaningful dialogue on gun restriction and access. Like the president said last night "we can't continue to tolerate this."

And tolerate is what we do and did with Columbine, Aurora, the college shootings, the Arizona shooting that left a congress woman nearly dead, the movie theater just a few months ago. The common factor? Guns and the seemingly easy access any nut job without a criminal backround has to obtaining weapons meant for war and all in the name of the 2nd amendment. The amendment needs to be revisited and if necessary changed. Period.

I'm not saying get rid of all guns or send the feds into people houses to confiscate existing semi automatic and automatic weapons, that toothpaste is out the tube. But there should be legislation to prohibit the sale and transportation or exchange of assault weapons.

I'd like to see that. I could live with that.

One more thing before some of you start moaning about "your rights" . Have any of your other "rights' been modified or revised to fit the current times that you go along with or is it just the 2nd amendment that is your Waterloo and the only way to get your warfare assault rifle is to pry it from your cold dead hands.

Don't worry, if you already have one keep it. But in the future no more sales to civilians till everyone learns not to shoot up classrooms of babies or churches, college campuses or movie theaters.

This time it's different. Watch and see.

The lessons of the failure of your war on drugs evade your grasp.

[georjec2]

This has already started to cycle out of the news.

You leftwingers will have to go whine about something else.

I'm still "whining" about those children. I suppose you'd rather discuss Benghazi.

[georjec2]

1. I don't see how owning a gun is only a "right-wing" idea. Many try to make this seem like it's a partisan issue, but it's not. This notion that those that own guns are warmongers is ridiculous. This is about the ability for honest citizens to have access to self-protection.
2. What kind of American can be such a hypocrite to scream about the legalization of drugs, then argue against guns? Drugs kill nearly 40K a year, while guns average 10K less. That doesn't count the number of deaths where the shootings were drug-related.
3. I own an assault rifle (despite being called a liberal by many people), but I've never shot up, nor do I plan on shooting up a classroom.
4. I do think that gun usage should require some sort of license, like a car. That shouldn't preclude someone from owning a gun, just like a car.

1. Note, I never mentioned party affiliation in any reply I ever gave about this tragedy.

2. Alcohol kills many many more people than drugs. Is that to say "how can you want to drink alcohol and still want guns illegal" ? Because you see the War on Drugs as an abysmal failure and waste of the tax payers money is it shame on you for not allowing assault weapons ? Can you clarify your point

3.And you should be allowed to keep your assault rifle but not be allowed to buy another one. You don't need it.

4. And yet you are willing to go through whatever strident steps the state requires in order for you to drive your car. Why not the same for gun ownership ?

[georjec2]

The lessons of the failure of your war on drugs evade your grasp.

No, the mush you sometimes turn my brain into pushes it beyond my grasp.

[demopublican]

2. Alcohol kills many many more people than drugs. Is that to say "how can you want to drink alcohol and still want guns illegal" ? Because you see the War on Drugs as an abysmal failure and waste of the tax payers money is it shame on you for not allowing assault weapons ? Can you clarify your point

3.And you should be allowed to keep your assault rifle but not be allowed to buy another one. You don't need it.

2. The war on gun rights will not be any more successful. I am ok with magazine size restrictions and other tweaks. But as alcohol and drugs have shown us, the black market will bypass any law. The nuts and criminals will get the guns.

3. Says you. There will be others saying far more radical things. There will be proposals to end the private ownership of handguns and semi automatic weapons of all types.

[OldBay]

Had the shooter not killed himself, would the focus be so much on an inanimate object? Is the rage against essentially all guns really all that is left because we have no shooter in hand to prosecute? If the shooter had been apprehended, would the discussion today be more about the death penalty, and less about restricting the rights of the law-abiding?

[gonzoliberal]

Had the shooter not killed himself, would the focus be so much on an inanimate object? Is the rage against essentially all guns really all that is left because we have no shooter in hand to prosecute? If the shooter had been apprehended, would the discussion today be more about the death penalty, and less about restricting the rights of the law-abiding?

Indeed.

Why the lack of focus on the perp?

Did the gun create the carnage all by itself?

Focusing on the perp would inevitably bring up the subject of mental health and the piss-poor state of mental health care in this country.

But with him dead, there is nothing to pin rage on.

...except the guns.