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    Default Cam Cameron... we're sorry

    Cam - we're sorry. It wasn't just you that sucked so bad! You were such a good scapegoat for everything: offense, defense, special teams. Now that you're gone we can't blame you anymore. You're right up there with Billick now.

    The Ravens team is in shambles and the world is coming to an end on 12/21 anyway.

    Cam - do you forgive us?

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    Cam was gone, that was pretty obvious. They should have at least waited to the end of the season. Now, it's pretty much a joke around the league.

    Maybe Caldwell will 'grow into the job' as some have suggested. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of time to accomplish this.
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    To be fair you're probably still running your old OC's gameplan for the most part. I mean how much time could Caldwell have to realistically install his own offense on such short notice? While I do question the timing of the fire it was definitely something that had to be done. But it will hurt you now that your new OC is basically learning a new job on the fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durrty Bird View Post
    To be fair you're probably still running your old OC's gameplan for the most part. I mean how much time could Caldwell have to realistically install his own offense on such short notice? While I do question the timing of the fire it was definitely something that had to be done. But it will hurt you now that your new OC is basically learning a new job on the fly.
    Yeah, that pick6 looked like a new play to me......never saw that kind of route with Cameron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baltimoreron View Post
    Cam was gone, that was pretty obvious. They should have at least waited to the end of the season. Now, it's pretty much a joke around the league.

    Maybe Caldwell will 'grow into the job' as some have suggested. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of time to accomplish this.
    stupid decisions:
    1) firing an OC in Dec when headed to the playoffs
    2) playing Suggs in a meaingless game (the real games start again in Jan)
    3) keeping overpriced, YEARS past their prime, players on the roster (Reed and Ray Ray), which eats up cap space which means your backup suck cuz you ain't got no cash to pay anyone else.

    we could come up with more, that is my start......

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    Maybe we can re-hire him in the offseason

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    Cam, you deserved better. Like Jimmy Stewart in Its a Wonderful Life, sometimes those who work hard and sacrifice while others shine get dumped on.

    Thanks for five exciting seasons!!

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    No Cam, I'm not sorry, you should have been gone at the end of last season. The playbook and the style of the offense isn't going to change in a week, but does need to happen. The offense needs to be redesigned to play to the strengths of the players and the OL needs to be improved. That can't really happen till the off season.

    Special teams has played better this year, but still has too damn many holding and blocking in the back calls on runbacks.

    The defense lost some damn good players to FA, our perrenial stars have aged and they have been killed by injuries. That's just a fact. They need some time to retool.

    The team is in dissarray right now and it's the job of John to pull them together down the stretch. At the least, he has to look at why we have lost the last 3 games, mainly turnovers, and insist we don't try plays where there is a likelihood one will occur. Make the best of what is left and see where we land. But do so with an eye towards next year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durrty Bird View Post
    To be fair you're probably still running your old OC's gameplan for the most part. I mean how much time could Caldwell have to realistically install his own offense on such short notice? While I do question the timing of the fire it was definitely something that had to be done. But it will hurt you now that your new OC is basically learning a new job on the fly.
    You don't need a new game plan, just a brain, to know NOT to run (to the weak side, even) on 2nd & 18. Apparently, Caldwell didn't learn anything from Albert Einstein: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    The team is in dissarray right now and it's the job of John to pull them together down the stretch. At the least, he has to look at why we have lost the last 3 games, mainly turnovers, and insist we don't try plays where there is a likelihood one will occur. Make the best of what is left and see where we land. But do so with an eye towards next year as well.

    Don't forget, they're the second-most penalized team in the entire NFL. There's no excuse for that lack of discipline from pro-level players. It's a sign that nobody's paying attention.

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    I think Cam's play book was so vanilla because Flacco's capabilities are so vanilla. I mean, OCF was insinuating that Cam does not know how to design plays over the middle. That kind of thinking is just pure asinine. Cam was playing to Flacco's strengths and his strengths are outs and bombs. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravingmaniac View Post
    i think cam's play book was so vanilla because flacco's capabilities are so vanilla. I mean, ocf was insinuating that cam does not know how to design plays over the middle. That kind of thinking is just pure asinine. Cam was playing to flacco's strengths and his strengths are outs and bombs. That's it.
    bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavingManiac View Post
    I think Cam's play book was so vanilla because Flacco's capabilities are so vanilla. I mean, OCF was insinuating that Cam does not know how to design plays over the middle. That kind of thinking is just pure asinine. Cam was playing to Flacco's strengths and his strengths are outs and bombs. That's it.
    HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    Well, Greg Cosell...your job is safe. No possible way RavingManiac is going to usurp your expertise any time soon. (As in...in the next 10,000 years!!)

    Wow. Thanks for the comic relief!!!! I KNEW you'd serve SOME purpose here on this board.


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    Cam Cameron = Biggest scapegoat in the NFL this season

    Funny how we had a thread not to long ago asking what we would do if we were GM. I specificlly stated I would not fire any coordinators at this stage in the season. I would go with what I had. Then a week later Cam gets let go.

    So I have to ask, what in the world were they expecting to accomplish by firing Cam Cameron with 3 games left and heading into the playoffs. The D is already in disarray. The offense wasn't performing as expected, which IMO the players share most of the responsibility. But at least there was stability. Why tear it apart now??? The Cam move should have been made in the offseason.

    But think about it, if Lee Evans can catch and hold onto a ball there's a very good chance the Ravens are 2011 Superbowl Champs. Cam is probably still here. I won't even go into Flacco's turnovers over the past few weeks.

    The fans wanted Cam gone and they got it. As they say, "Be careful what you wish for..."

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    You people are idiots. Cam's ineptitude singlehandedly cost us a Super Bowl in 2010 and he should have been given the boot then. The fact that they waited until last week to fire him is disgraceful in and of itself and i truly cannot believe how fickle you people are. After the Steelers game you all were lining up with your pitchforks and torches and now you want the guy back just because the offense still sucked on sunday. Unbelievable. Cam, I'm not sorry at all. You're a bum and i would wish you the best in your future endeavors but you probably don't have any

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Costanza 831 View Post
    You people are idiots. Cam's ineptitude singlehandedly cost us a Super Bowl in 2010 and he should have been given the boot then.
    I assume you're referring to the playoff against Pittsburgh where the Ravens had a 21-7 lead? Where Boldin dropped a TD pass? Where Housh dropped the 4th down pass that hit him in the hands? Where Ray Rice fumbled and Flacco threw an INT? Where the D let Roethlisberger complete a very improbable pass to just about seal the game? Yea, all that was Cam's fault. Sometimes I wonder if guys like you even watch the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troy43 View Post
    stupid decisions:
    1) firing an OC in Dec when headed to the playoffs
    2) playing Suggs in a meaingless game (the real games start again in Jan)
    3) keeping overpriced, YEARS past their prime, players on the roster (Reed and Ray Ray), which eats up cap space which means your backup suck cuz you ain't got no cash to pay anyone else.

    we could come up with more, that is my start......
    You can also add Birk,McKinnie and Boldin to that list.Although Suggs has been hurt, him and Haloti sure aren't producing either considering the fact that the two of them are consuming one sixth of the cap room for the entire team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fang View Post
    I assume you're referring to the playoff against Pittsburgh where the Ravens had a 21-7 lead? Where Boldin dropped a TD pass? Where Housh dropped the 4th down pass that hit him in the hands? Where Ray Rice fumbled and Flacco threw an INT? Where the D let Roethlisberger complete a very improbable pass to just about seal the game? Yea, all that was Cam's fault. Sometimes I wonder if guys like you even watch the games.
    Yeah i'm referring to the game where we only gained 28 yards of offense in the entire second half after we were mopping the floor with the Steelers D in the first half. Dick Labeau made changes at halftime and Cam refused to stray from his vanilla predictable gameplan and it cost us the game. Let's not forget that the pick Flacco threw was on a 1 WR set the Cam called where he sent Todd Heap 40 yards down the field in a straight line and Ryan Clark simply caught it like a fair catch. Can't think of too many QB's that aren't super human that would be able to make that throw. But i don't know that's just my two cents since I don't even watch the games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Costanza 831 View Post
    You people are idiots. Cam's ineptitude singlehandedly cost us a Super Bowl in 2010 and he should have been given the boot then. The fact that they waited until last week to fire him is disgraceful in and of itself and i truly cannot believe how fickle you people are. After the Steelers game you all were lining up with your pitchforks and torches and now you want the guy back just because the offense still sucked on sunday. Unbelievable. Cam, I'm not sorry at all. You're a bum and i would wish you the best in your future endeavors but you probably don't have any
    And then some!

    Tell it brotha....TELL IT!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    And then some!

    Tell it brotha....TELL IT!!!

    Careful, Coltsfan. They don't like the truth on here.

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