Should Every Semi-Automatic Firearm be Banned?

[OldBay]

Semi auto guns are designed to kill people and protect your drugs in the hood. Useless to hunting game unless your game is people.

Do you include semi-auto shotguns as useless? Millions of hunters might disagree. Remington 1187 is an assault weapon?

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Wow, I must be a misfit, I have several semis and I don't live in the hood or have any drugs.

Link?

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Link?

What, my house or gun safe?

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Actually you are totally wrong.

The assault rifle was developed by the Germans to offset the numerical advantage the Russians exhibited when attacking the eastern front in world war II, when the Germans were placed on the defensive in 1944.

Self defense apparently is combat.

Semiauto rifles have been available since the turn of the century. All were descended in one way or another from military rifles. Large capacity magazines have too. Frank Hamer used a Remington model 8 with an extended large capacity magazine to shoot Bonnie & Clyde.

Just come on out and say it. The American people can no longer be trusted with these things.

Quite frankly I'm beginning to think you are right.

"During World War I the French Chauchat was introduced, a light machine gun and a precursor to the modern assault rifle. It was produced in large numbers (250,000). Like the later assault rifle it was capable of both single and automatic fire, and was loaded with a magazine and also featured a pistol grip. Compared to other light machine guns of the time the Chauchat was fairly light at the weight of 9 kg but it was still too cumbersome for closer quarters and had recoil that was too heavy to control when firing fully automatic due to the use of full-powered rifle rounds like original French chambering of the 8 mm Lebel (8x50mmR) or variants produced later for US forces in .30-06 Springfield and other international customers in 7.92 mm and 7.65 mm rifle calibres. Despite some serious flaws it was so important to infantry combat that desperate German troops who had no comparable weapon of their own started using captured Chauchats.[12] While it was chambered for the full-size calibre and therefore did not use an intermediate cartridge, it was an intermediate weapon between submachine guns and heavier machine guns such as the Lewis Gun. A similar full-power automatic rifle design, the Mondragón rifle, was patented in 1887 and used by the Mexican army from 1901.


Ribeyrolle 1918 automatic carbine
The Ribeyrolle 1918 may be the first weapon fitting the definition of an assault rifle (including select fire and portability) to use a purpose-designed intermediate round. The cartridge was based on the .351 Winchester Self-Loading case necked down to accept an 8 mm Lebel bullet. It was first introduced to the Army Technical Service on July 6, 1918. Its official designation was Carabine Mitrailleuse (English: machine carbine; German: Maschinenkarabiner). It was finally rejected in 1921 because it was not accurate enough at distances beyond 400*meters. Similar weapons were the Danish Weibel M/1932 and Greek EPK light machine guns chambered in experimental rounds considered similar to what would become the 7.92x33mm Kurz within the following decade.

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What, my house or gun safe?

Drugs.

[Dryfire]

Which one of these should be banned and which ones are okay? Label from top to bottom 1 thru 4.

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14/index.html

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

"During World War I the French Chauchat was introduced, a light machine gun and a precursor to the modern assault rifle. It was produced in large numbers (250,000). Like the later assault rifle it was capable of both single and automatic fire, and was loaded with a magazine and also featured a pistol grip. Compared to other light machine guns of the time the Chauchat was fairly light at the weight of 9 kg but it was still too cumbersome for closer quarters and had recoil that was too heavy to control when firing fully automatic due to the use of full-powered rifle rounds like original French chambering of the 8 mm Lebel (8x50mmR) or variants produced later for US forces in .30-06 Springfield and other international customers in 7.92 mm and 7.65 mm rifle calibres. Despite some serious flaws it was so important to infantry combat that desperate German troops who had no comparable weapon of their own started using captured Chauchats.[12] While it was chambered for the full-size calibre and therefore did not use an intermediate cartridge, it was an intermediate weapon between submachine guns and heavier machine guns such as the Lewis Gun. A similar full-power automatic rifle design, the Mondragón rifle, was patented in 1887 and used by the Mexican army from 1901.


Ribeyrolle 1918 automatic carbine
The Ribeyrolle 1918 may be the first weapon fitting the definition of an assault rifle (including select fire and portability) to use a purpose-designed intermediate round. The cartridge was based on the .351 Winchester Self-Loading case necked down to accept an 8 mm Lebel bullet. It was first introduced to the Army Technical Service on July 6, 1918. Its official designation was Carabine Mitrailleuse (English: machine carbine; German: Maschinenkarabiner). It was finally rejected in 1921 because it was not accurate enough at distances beyond 400*meters. Similar weapons were the Danish Weibel M/1932 and Greek EPK light machine guns chambered in experimental rounds considered similar to what would become the 7.92x33mm Kurz within the following decade.

Ok, the Chauchats was universally hated by the American troops that used it because, well it sucked.

The Mexican rifle was unreliable and fragile as well.
The Ribeyrolle was ahead of its time in design but materials were lacking.

I'm confused, are you agreeing with me?

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Drugs.

The only drugs I use regularly are Zyrtec and Aleve. Oh, and Lipitor. Dammit.

[genghiskhanraven]

If this statement were true we would have never had Columbine, Va Tech, Aurora Co, the Amish School shooting since all of these were in "Gun-Free" Zones.

While I don't know exactly what needs to be done, banning so called assault rifles isn't the answer.

The key word he used was "less", making guns more difficult for teens and physcos to have access to doesnt lead to more school masacres.
None of the school slaughters happened in gun free states, so the gun free area is mute point, gun control laws have lead to less mass school shootings in country's like the UK.

I'm glad we have made it more difficult for a pycho to gain access to a tommy gun or BAR, although if someday a psychopath gets a hold of a machine gun and kills a hundred people in a mall that doesn't make having gun control laws useless

[OldBay]

The only drugs I use regularly are Zyrtec and Aleve. Oh, and Lipitor. Dammit.

With Memphis BBQ, don't they put the lipitor in the drinking water?

I also use the hard stuff - glucosamine/chondroitin

[Dryfire]

"During World War I the French Chauchat was introduced, a light machine gun and a precursor to the modern assault rifle. It was produced in large numbers (250,000). Like the later assault rifle it was capable of both single and automatic fire, and was loaded with a magazine and also featured a pistol grip. Compared to other light machine guns of the time the Chauchat was fairly light at the weight of 9 kg but it was still too cumbersome for closer quarters and had recoil that was too heavy to control when firing fully automatic due to the use of full-powered rifle rounds like original French chambering of the 8 mm Lebel (8x50mmR) or variants produced later for US forces in .30-06 Springfield and other international customers in 7.92 mm and 7.65 mm rifle calibres. Despite some serious flaws it was so important to infantry combat that desperate German troops who had no comparable weapon of their own started using captured Chauchats.[12] While it was chambered for the full-size calibre and therefore did not use an intermediate cartridge, it was an intermediate weapon between submachine guns and heavier machine guns such as the Lewis Gun. A similar full-power automatic rifle design, the Mondragón rifle, was patented in 1887 and used by the Mexican army from 1901.


Ribeyrolle 1918 automatic carbine
The Ribeyrolle 1918 may be the first weapon fitting the definition of an assault rifle (including select fire and portability) to use a purpose-designed intermediate round. The cartridge was based on the .351 Winchester Self-Loading case necked down to accept an 8 mm Lebel bullet. It was first introduced to the Army Technical Service on July 6, 1918. Its official designation was Carabine Mitrailleuse (English: machine carbine; German: Maschinenkarabiner). It was finally rejected in 1921 because it was not accurate enough at distances beyond 400*meters. Similar weapons were the Danish Weibel M/1932 and Greek EPK light machine guns chambered in experimental rounds considered similar to what would become the 7.92x33mm Kurz within the following decade.

The rifles we are talking about are semi-auto. 1 pull of the trigger = 1 round expended.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

With Memphis BBQ, don't they put the lipitor in the drinking water?

I also use the hard stuff - glucosamine/chondroitin

In the south drinking water has red meat in it.

[OldBay]

In the south drinking water has red meat in it.

Jeff Foxworthy, is that you?

[BlandFood]

Drugs.

Must be the lil fudgepacker in your avatar speaking. Crack much?

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Jeff Foxworthy, is that you?

No but my ex-wife says I act like Ron White.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Must be the lil fudgepacker in your avatar speaking. Crack much?

Let it go dude. Doesn't bother me. Must be "Projection"

[OldBay]

No but my ex-wife says I act like Ron White.

Was it the scotch or your introducing her as your first wife - while still married to her?

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The rifles we are talking about are semi-auto. 1 pull of the trigger = 1 round expended.

Take it up with Wiki.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Was it the scotch or your introducing her as your first wife - while still married to her?

Divorce is hard even if you want or not. I gave her what she wanted. You know, the old "set it free, if it's yours it will come back". Thing was, I spent 6 months, wondering if she'd come back. Since then, I'm scared she might try to. Made sure I changed the locks. Had no idea there were that many single women out there.

[BlandFood]

Ok, the Chauchats was universally hated by the American troops that used it because, well it sucked.

The Mexican rifle was unreliable and fragile as well.
The Ribeyrolle was ahead of its time in design but materials were lacking.

I'm confused, are you agreeing with me?

Shhhhh, the fool wouldn't know a fact if you hit him over the head with it. Fact of the matter is hardly NOTHING on the pos was interchangeable with another like unit.