Was Connecticut shooter Adam Lanza on hardcore psychotropic drugs?

[The Shadow]

They are saying that investigators so far they have found no evidence that he was on any drugs.

What cause this nut case to kill?

Fox News is reporting that the shooter's motivation was that he found out that his mother was going to have him committed. He was also jealous of his mother's volunteer work at the school, and felt that she loved those kids more than she did him.

[slapshot]

Good point. People should wait for the facts before claiming that a gun ban will "cure" the problem.

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Who (show me) thinks that a "gun ban will cure the problem"?

It's been stated time and time again there are way too many guns out there to think any future gun ban (e.g., on assault weapons) will completely stop (ie, "cure") the problem. It's like cancer...you are never really "cured" of cancer. It just goes into remission.

At best, it may mitigate the severity and frequencies of these slaughters. But it won't elliminate it. Pretty much every advocate of stricter gun control knows this...so stop with the NRA style hype exaggerations.

[slapshot]

They are saying that investigators so far they have found no evidence that he was on any drugs.

What cause this nut case to kill?

Fox News is reporting that the shooter's motivation was that he found out that his mother was going to have him committed. He was also jealous of his mother's volunteer work at the school, and felt that she loved those kids more than she did him.

link?

what is fox news' source...? Hearsay speculation from a neighbor?

[banner1124]

I don't get your point.

The knee jerk reaction, it seems, is if certain guns are banned the problem (mass killings) will go away. My opinion is that it is more of a mental defect problem (either genetic or drug induced) and the frequency of these school killings seems to be a relatively recent phenomenon.

Maybe some attention should be paid to other factors such as these drugs combined with the extremely violent movies and video games that kids are exposed to.



I've read also that psychiatry is not an exact science.

Not only is the psychiatric diagnosis authoritative source (DSM) inaccurate at times, but some providers don’t even use it as it was intended! Errors in diagnosis are all too common. Fads seem to lead the way. This can lead to unnecessary medications and sometimes even ruin a person’s life.[/url]

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Personally I haven't heard anyone say that banning certain kinds of guns would make mass killings go away

[banner1124]

So which side are you on - this tragedy is the gun's fault or this tragedy is the fault of a mental defect (genetic, drug induced, or both)?

This is so much more complex. It's not an either/or situation. One shouldn't have to choose a side when viewing this rationally, especially since there's more than 2 sides than the ones you've presented.

[The Shadow]

link?

what is fox news' source...? Hearsay speculation from a neighbor?

PSYCHO: 'FEAR OF BEING COMMITTED' CAUSED HIM TO SNAP

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

[flyboy56]

Personally I haven't heard anyone say that banning certain kinds of guns would make mass killings go away

Lanza could have walked through the classrooms shooting only the handguns and still would have attained about the same number of kills he did with the rifle. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Yet here we are saying the "assault rifle" needs to be banned.

[Daan]

Who (show me) thinks that a "gun ban will cure the problem"?

It's been stated time and time again there are way too many guns out there to think any future gun ban (e.g., on assault weapons) will completely stop (ie, "cure") the problem. It's like cancer...you are never really "cured" of cancer. It just goes into remission.

At best, it may mitigate the severity and frequencies of these slaughters. But it won't elliminate it. Pretty much every advocate of stricter gun control knows this...so stop with the NRA style hype exaggerations.

Well thank you for the clarification.

So you just want more gun control that you admit will not stop the mass murders and you admit that it may not have any effect on the problem.

I don't want more Government control over what I do that accomplishes nothing.

You should stand on a street corner with a sign. That would accomplish about as much as what you're doing on this forum.

Good luck.

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[sage]

And yet millions of people get great benefit from SSRI drugs without any antisocial side effects whatsoever. In fact, one could argue that of all the mass murders noted above were examples where the medication was simply ineffective.

They become zombies!

Law enforcement is in a unique position to collect data that may actually provide the most accurate information about the possible connection between psychotropic drugs and violence!

Fact: Despite 22 international drug regulatory warnings on psychiatric drugs citing effects of mania, hostility, violence and even homicidal ideation, and dozens of high profile shootings/killings tied to psychiatric drug use, there has yet to be a federal investigation on the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence.

Fact: At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 109 wounded and 58 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs.)

Fact: Between 2004 and 2011, there have been over 11,000 reports to the U.S. FDA’s MedWatch system of psychiatric drug side effects related to violence. These include 300 cases of homicide, nearly 3,000 cases of mania and over 7,000 cases of aggression. Note: By the FDA’s own admission, only 1-10% of side effects are ever reported to the FDA, so the actual number of side effects occurring are most certainly higher.

Of the 14 shooters documented to be under the influence of psychiatric drugs, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist or psychologist. See the list of school shooters on psychiatric drugs here: http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/th...hotropic-drug/

[Mom49of4]

Fact - you are not a doctor.

[sage]

Fact - you are not a doctor.

FACT ---You mean Witch Doctors! Flip the M in M.D. and it is a W. Witch Doctors are what they are! What did we do before Big Pharma made these drugs and then created the disease for them?

As the country reels from news of yet another senseless mass killing in suburban Milwaukee, coming on the heels of the even more deadly massacre in Aurora, Colorado, Americans are left to wonder what could possibly be responsible for this outbreak of bloody insanity and murder. But as terrible as these two incidents were, they have an undeniable ring of familiarity about them – since the year 2000, there have been twenty-six cases of mass murder (four or more victims) in the United States, as opposed to twenty combined during the 1980s and 1990s. And before the 1980s, mass killing sprees were actually quite rare in this country, usually averaging no more than one or two per decade. So it appears we are looking at a trend of madness that began approximately thirty years ago and has been picking up steam every since.
http://www.offthegridnews.com/2012/0...he-connection/

[Mom49of4]

Tell you what I am one of those parents who had their child on medication. It was either that or he could not live with us.

[Troubadour]

That ugly dome haircut probably drove him crazy.

[Calamari]

I've noticed that a lot of people who are really koo-koo also have a thing against psychiatrists. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[gonzoliberal]

I've noticed that a lot of people who are really koo-koo also have a thing against psychiatrists. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

I would suggest it's FEAR.