Pope blasts same-sex marriage in Christmas address

[Bmoreteacher]

Perhaps in some cases they are a joke. I do know for a fact how seriously they are taken by sincere Catholics who want to live the faith.

Unfortunately, they pushed me out despite my attempts to stay in. Baltimore's new archbishop (Lori) was my bishop in CT. When gay marriage was being talked about in CT, he had the K of C pass out petition cards for people to send into our senators. I wrote the bishop a letter explaining that I was a gay 19 year old who went to Mass every Sunday but that I would appreciate him keeping politics out of my church, which was supposed to be a safe place for me to be with God in prayer. He basically sent a letter back saying "These are our views, deal with it."

[flyboy56]

Ironic, and possibly the most unhealthily relationship, worshipping something that's belief is you are an abomination.

"You can only “hate the sin and love the sinner” by committing three sins. First, you must judge that the other person’s activity is a sin. Second, you must judge that the other person is a sinner. Third, you have made yourself a judge of sin, even though as a sinner, you are not qualified to judge sin."

http://www.kencollins.com/discipleship/disc-31.htm

[Byng]

Unfortunately, they pushed me out despite my attempts to stay in. Baltimore's new archbishop (Lori) was my bishop in CT. When gay marriage was being talked about in CT, he had the K of C pass out petition cards for people to send into our senators. I wrote the bishop a letter explaining that I was a gay 19 year old who went to Mass every Sunday but that I would appreciate him keeping politics out of my church, which was supposed to be a safe place for me to be with God in prayer. He basically sent a letter back saying "These are our views, deal with it."

Like the way the Pope "deals" with the overwhelming majority of American Catholic Priests who are Gay and of that 70% depending who you listen to at least half that are sexually active? That does not even count the sexually active Priests in the 30% of Heterosexuals.

Hypocrisy best describes the Catholic Church because in practice it is the 'Gay Church' of America but the Pope knows that without them the Catholic Church in America would cease to exist. So he turns a blind eye to the truth and sits in his ivory tower lecturing on the immorality of Gay marriage and how it will destroy society! The mind boggles.

[songfourone]

You're not really as stupid as you come across here--are you?

Who is the fool???? Follow the money!!!!!

[songfourone]

I bet that could change if the price was right, just like with annulments. What a joke they are!

They are a huge freakin joke, it boggles the mind how people allow themselves to be fooled each and every Sunday into giving money.

[veritas]

Ironic, and possibly the most unhealthily relationship, worshipping something that's belief is you are an abomination.

Sin is the abomination in God's eyes. John 3:16 says "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son so that whosoever believes in Him...". That hardly sounds like the act of a God who thinks anyone is an abomination. Everyone is offered the free gift of salvation but that means acknowledging sin and seeking reconciliation with God.

[Mom49of4]

Sin is the abomination in God's eyes. John 3:16 says "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son so that whosoever believes in Him...". That hardly sounds like the act of a God who thinks anyone is an abomination. Everyone is offered the free gift of salvation but that means acknowledging sin and seeking reconciliation with God.

Well said!

[flyboy56]

Sin is the abomination in God's eyes. John 3:16 says "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son so that whosoever believes in Him...". That hardly sounds like the act of a God who thinks anyone is an abomination. Everyone is offered the free gift of salvation but that means acknowledging sin and seeking reconciliation with God.

It is not so much the sin itself, as we are all sinners, but our refusal to ask God for his forgiveness for our sins is what will lead us to eternal damnation. This is the Unpardonable Sin.

[veritas]

It is not so much the sin itself, as we are all sinners, but our refusal to ask God for his forgiveness for our sins is what will lead us to eternal damnation.

Scripture says the wages of sin is death. The blood of Christ took away those sins. He says "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me." We either accept that or we don't.

[flyboy56]

Scripture says the wages of sin is death. The blood of Christ took away those sins. He says "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me." We either accept that or we don't.

And who is without sin?

[Mom49of4]

And who is without sin?

No one.

[flyboy56]

No one.

Exactly mom. And the way some interpret the scriptures we might as well all give up trying to please God.

[veritas]

And who is without sin?

Nobody. Scripture says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23)

[songfourone]

It is not so much the sin itself, as we are all sinners, but our refusal to ask God for his forgiveness for our sins is what will lead us to eternal damnation. This is the Unpardonable Sin.

Wonder if we will hear what a selfish act this was from Mom?

[songfourone]

Sin is the abomination in God's eyes. John 3:16 says "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son so that whosoever believes in Him...". That hardly sounds like the act of a God who thinks anyone is an abomination. Everyone is offered the free gift of salvation but that means acknowledging sin and seeking reconciliation with God.

Please save it for someone who believes that crap.

[songfourone]

To the Vatican it is all about the Benjamins.

[Bmoreteacher]

Exactly mom. And the way some interpret the scriptures we might as well all give up trying to please God.

And the way some interpret the scriptures, we may as well stop acknowledging that the Bible was only a book written by man that has a historical context, hence why it is silly to use it to deny gays rights in 2013

[songfourone]

I have such little time and patience for indulging the lemmings when they attempt to inject their 'scripture' into my life via legislation.

[veritas]

Please save it for someone who believes that crap.

I was pointing out your ignorance of scripture. If you plan on talking about it, it helps to have some remote clue what you are talking about.

[songfourone]

I was pointing out your ignorance of scripture. If you plan on talking about it, it helps to have some remote clue what you are talking about.

Interpret it any way you care to, because I don't.