Originally Posted by slapshot
Guess that would make you a housekeeper at your parish.
My, my....you are a busy person.
Well it's a shame she doesn't cut the lawn and keep the books.
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Guess that would make you a housekeeper at your parish.
My, my....you are a busy person.
Well it's a shame she doesn't cut the lawn and keep the books.
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Snapshot does that a lot.
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I'm not a Sumo wrestler and have never seen one BUT I do consider myself an expert on the subject.
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Landover Baptist Church is not real; it's a parody site.
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LOL.
Do you seriously want to get into this kind of pissing match? The Catholic Church has a long, and storied tradition of this sort of thing. Volumes have been written documenting the Catholic attrocities, or wrong-doings....going back well before the Crudades.
Yes, as was already stated, every religion has it's skeletons....but they pale in comparison to what can be found in the Catholic Church closet.
If you really want to go there....then begin.
By the way, what was the Bhuddist wrong-doing?
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Then refer to the other Baptist source I provided.
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I suspect whatever answer I give you would be met with an insult. So there would not be a respectful conversation.
My children are my legacy.
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Thank you for the links and the part highlighted says it all.
My children are my legacy.
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Does it matter, he cuts the grass and therefore has seen the books and knows how money is disbursed.
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I've never compared all religions and their wrong-doings completely. Do you have a reference?LOL.
Do you seriously want to get into this kind of pissing match? The Catholic Church has a long, and storied tradition of this sort of thing. Volumes have been written documenting the Catholic attrocities, or wrong-doings....going back well before the Crudades.
Yes, as was already stated, every religion has it's skeletons....but they pale in comparison to what can be found in the Catholic Church closet.
If you really want to go there....then begin.
By the way, what was the Bhuddist wrong-doing?
As for Buddhists, please refer back to my post and see the quote pertaining to the Dalai Lama and the Holocaust. If you need me to re-post it, let me know.
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The problem you will have in researchIng the evils in other religions is they are either not well documented, or, are far and few between (as per my point).
On the other hand, and as I indicated, there are volumes written about the sins and wrong doings of the Catholic Church. If you want to start somewhere, start here. It is considered an authoritative source (although, does not include recent wrong doings of the Church):
http://www.amazon.com/Concise-Histor.../dp/0385505841
Yes, please do.As for Buddhists, please refer back to my post and see the quote pertaining to the Dalai Lama and the Holocaust. If you need me to re-post it, let me know.
Although if you knew anything about Bhuddism, you would know that anyone's comments, even from someone who has achieved "enlightenment", does not speak for the Bhuddists. It is not a centralized religion/philosophy.
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This is your example of the sins and wrong-doings of Bhuddism?? LOL. That's it?
Really, you need to try a LOT harder. Epic fail. Meanwhile, the Chatholic Church directly contributed to the deaths of many Jews in Eastern Europe.
Quote:
The question of the Holocaust also occurs in the Jew in the Lotus: A Poet's Re-Discovery of Jewish Identity in Buddhist India, which describes a group of Jewish religious leaders who meet with the Dalai Lama. They ask one of the Dalai Lama's party, a Buddhist scholar named Geshe Sonam Rinchen, if the Holocaust would be attributed to past karma in the traditional Buddhist view, and he affirms that it would. The author is "shocked and a little outraged," because, like Loy, he felt it "sounded like blaming the victim."
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I'll check out the link you provided.
Here is what I had posted before:
Buddists: (the swastika came from the Buddhists but stood for good fortune)
The question of the Holocaust also occurs in the Jew in the Lotus: A Poet's Re-Discovery of Jewish Identity in Buddhist India, which describes a group of Jewish religious leaders who meet with the Dalai Lama. They ask one of the Dalai Lama's party, a Buddhist scholar named Geshe Sonam Rinchen, if the Holocaust would be attributed to past karma in the traditional Buddhist view, and he affirms that it would. The author is "shocked and a little outraged," because, like Loy, he felt it "sounded like blaming the victim."
My understanding of Buddhism is that what is practiced today is vastly different from its origin, but my not being a practicing Buddhist, I'm obviously willing to be wrong on that point.
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And my response (above) is still the same -
Is this all you've got...a "comment from a Bhuddist scholar" LOL.
You do realize that the Catholic Church directly and indirectly helped to send many Jews to their death in Eastern Europe?
Please don't try to compare the two....
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By the way - Bhuddism was, and still is about the betterment of the individual. It is about the pursuit of trying to obtain spiritual enlightenment.
That fundamental tenant has not changed.
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You edited your post once you re-read mine. Let's be honest here.
If there is a belief that karma means that the Jews deserved it, should I then jump to the conclusion that all Buddhists believe this to be true?
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Please do. You can order the book on Amazon. Lot of interesting history about the Church.
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Hey, I just realized that you're new here. Welcome!
Believe it or not, I respect that fact that you're honest about your opinion and look forward to posting with you.
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First off, let me see the FULL context of what was asked, and what the response was. Is there some transcription of this meeting?
You and I both know that any quote is EASILY misconstrued, when taken out of context.
That said, because Buddhissm is so de-centralized, no one person, and CERTAINLY NOT some "Buddhist scholar" speaks for Bhuddism. Does the Pope speak for every Catholic...and Catholism is a much more structured and centralized religion, than Buddhism.
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Matt, your link has the following:
and The Dalai Lama, while advocating for tolerance, did say this:Despite all this, in practice, Theravada Buddhist countries are not terribly open to homosexual practice. This has much to do with cultural norms, as well as the notion of karma, which remains strong in countries such as Thailand. From this viewpoint, a person's characteristics and situations are a result of past sins or good deeds. Homosexuality and other alternative forms of sexuality are often seen as karmic punishments for heterosexual misconduct in a past life. Thus far, the gay rights movement has not had great success in Theravada Buddhist countries.
The Dalai Lama was more specific in a meeting with Buddhist leaders and human rights activists in San Francisco in 1997, where he commented that all forms of sex other than penile-vaginal sex are prohibited for Buddhists, whether between heterosexuals or homosexuals. At a press conference the day before the meeting, he said, "From a Buddhist point of view, [gay sex] is generally considered sexual misconduct." But he did note that this rule is for Buddhists, and from society's viewpoint, homosexual relationships can be "of mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless."
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