Pope blasts same-sex marriage in Christmas address

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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/12/2...#storylink=cpy



Can anyone tell me how same-sex marriage is an attack on the traditional family?

I'm sure come Tuesday, there will be plenty of same-sex couples opening presents with their children, heading to grandmother's house for Christmas dinner, and doing whatever else families do.

Interesting, since Jesus could not be considered the product of a traditional marriage.

[BlandFood]

Interesting, since Jesus could not be considered the product of a traditional marriage.

Neither was Bobo for that matter and look what a clusterfluck he turned out to be.

[SalisburySage]

Listening to that ghastly old queen go on about gay marriage is hilarious.

I agree the Pope is a ghastly old queen. And he supports child molesters. BUt I don't think its funny because he is hurting people by his speech.

[slapshot]

Interesting, since Jesus could not be considered the product of a traditional marriage.

Excellent point.

[bmorepunk]

I've been married for nearly ten years according to the State of Maryland. My wife needs to be confirmed in the Catholic church to be a recognized godmother. We now are required to get married in the Catholic church because the church doesn't recognize our legal marriage.

Not only is it confusing that the government is involved in marriage in the first place, but the fact that the Pope cares about non-real marriages between same-sex people is more confusing.

[Mom49of4]

I've been married for nearly ten years according to the State of Maryland. My wife needs to be confirmed in the Catholic church to be a recognized godmother. We now are required to get married in the Catholic church because the church doesn't recognize our legal marriage.

Not only is it confusing that the government is involved in marriage in the first place, but the fact that the Pope cares about non-real marriages between same-sex people is more confusing.

Be prepared for the insults because you admit that you are Catholic.

[SalisburySage]

I've been married for nearly ten years according to the State of Maryland. My wife needs to be confirmed in the Catholic church to be a recognized godmother. We now are required to get married in the Catholic church because the church doesn't recognize our legal marriage.

Not only is it confusing that the government is involved in marriage in the first place, but the fact that the Pope cares about non-real marriages between same-sex people is more confusing.

Yes. I agree.

[BlandFood]

Be prepared for the insults because you admit that you are Catholic.

To hear some cry you pull anything and everything you disagree with.

[slapshot]

Be prepared for the insults because you admit that you are Catholic.

Is that a challenge?

The Catholic Church is the last organization that should be telling people about right and wrong. They ignored the WRONG that their own priests perpetrated on children, for decades - around the globe.

They have done good, but an awful lot of bad along the way.

[bmorepunk]

Be prepared for the insults because you admit that you are Catholic.

I'm not Catholic, my wife is. Her parents apparently didn't get her confirmed when she was younger and she didn't realize she had a problem until the godparent thing came up.

I'm probably best described as agnostic (but open minded to many people's beliefs), but as long as we get married in the church and I promise that my kid be raised Catholic they're fine with our "mixed marriage". I recently found out the correct term for me is "unbaptized".

[Mom49of4]

I'm not Catholic, my wife is. Her parents apparently didn't get her confirmed when she was younger and she didn't realize she had a problem until the godparent thing came up.

I'm probably best described as agnostic (but open minded to many people's beliefs), but as long as we get married in the church and I promise that my kid be raised Catholic they're fine with our "mixed marriage". I recently found out the correct term for me is "unbaptized".

Sorry I misread your post. You sound very supportive of your wife and family which is very important.

[BlandFood]

I'm not Catholic, my wife is. Her parents apparently didn't get her confirmed when she was younger and she didn't realize she had a problem until the godparent thing came up.

I'm probably best described as agnostic (but open minded to many people's beliefs), but as long as we get married in the church and I promise that my kid be raised Catholic they're fine with our "mixed marriage". I recently found out the correct term for me is "unbaptized".

Strange, they recognize baptisms from outside the church BUT not the sacramental aspect of a marriage. Were you ever baptized outside of the church.... if not then it makes sense.

[bmorepunk]

Sorry I misread your post. You sound very supportive of your wife and family which is very important.

Thanks, I think it helps that my wife and I don't have any fundamental disagreements in our relationship so that makes it relatively easy (I don't think either one of us would have married someone we did). My daughter is in kindergarten in Catholic school and she's already telling me things from her religion class that I didn't know about. I'm always interested in learning more about things I don't know much about.

I recently went in for the interview process with the priest since she's working through the confirmation process. During this we had to fill out a bit of paperwork, and the priest told us that he generally doesn't have it this easy when the other spouse isn't Catholic. Apparently a lot of people go in disagreeing over religion, how their child should be raised, etc. I don't know how you go to that interview without a reasonable understanding, but the priests supposedly see a lot of conflict over this.

[songfourone]

I agree the Pope is a ghastly old queen. And he supports child molesters. BUt I don't think its funny because he is hurting people by his speech.

The Catholic Church is a joke, a very sad and tragic joke. The Pope had a chance to redeem himself and chose to cover up the mass molestations of thousands of children. How can people possibly be so stupid to follow the head of a church who swept the innocence of those children under the rug, and then asked for more money from the parishioners to pay for the millions in lawsuits. Now just how stupid do you have to be??????

Nothing he has to say affects my life, and I like it that way.

[Mom49of4]

Thanks, I think it helps that my wife and I don't have any fundamental disagreements in our relationship so that makes it relatively easy (I don't think either one of us would have married someone we did). My daughter is in kindergarten in Catholic school and she's already telling me things from her religion class that I didn't know about. I'm always interested in learning more about things I don't know much about.

I recently went in for the interview process with the priest since she's working through the confirmation process. During this we had to fill out a bit of paperwork, and the priest told us that he generally doesn't have it this easy when the other spouse isn't Catholic. Apparently a lot of people go in disagreeing over religion, how their child should be raised, etc. I don't know how you go to that interview without a reasonable understanding, but the priests supposedly see a lot of conflict over this.

The key is communication and support. I have 2 sisters who have married non-Catholics and their spouses are very supportive in the bringing up the children.

Neither has considered converting but that is okay as they are quite respectful and well loved in the family.

But you are correct that priests see a lot of family in fighting when these issues come up.

[songfourone]

So if you are putting money in the collection plate every Sunday you are in essence supporting the mass molestation of children. Must give some a warm fuzzy feeling.

[BlandFood]

So if you are putting money in the collection plate every Sunday you are in essence supporting the mass molestation of children. Must give some a warm fuzzy feeling.

Yeah, it's kinda like giving to planned parenthood.

[songfourone]

Is that a challenge?

The Catholic Church is the last organization that should be telling people about right and wrong. They ignored the WRONG that their own priests perpetrated on children, for decades - around the globe.

They have done good, but an awful lot of bad along the way.

They have done way more horrible things along the way, it is about the power and the money. Some are fooled.

[songfourone]

Yeah, it's kinda like giving to planned parenthood.

I give to PP.

[slapshot]

This poem lays out what's wrong with organized religion. This guy nails it, and represents the new order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhD...e_gdata_player