Helmet to helmet contact

[cprenegade]

Now it isn't even good enough to lower your shoulder and correctly avoid hitting helmets. Twice today I've seen calls that were flagged as personal fouls that were clean hits. Ed Reed lowered his shoulder and hit the runner and was flagged. Just now Seattle got flagged on a hit to Vernon Davis that was a shoulder to the chest. Can you now not hit anyone above the belt? Roger Goodell is ruining football.

[Tootsie]

Now it isn't even good enough to lower your shoulder and correctly avoid hitting helmets. Twice today I've seen calls that were flagged as personal fouls that were clean hits. Ed Reed lowered his shoulder and hit the runner and was flagged. Just now Seattle got flagged on a hit to Vernon Davis that was a shoulder to the chest. Can you now not hit anyone above the belt? Roger Goodell is ruining football.

I agree. You cant hit in the helmet and you cant hit QB below the knees. Just get the flags out already.

[Tootsie]

You cant blind side block anymore either

[Ravens2006]

Serious question... does anyone ever remember Hines Ward drawing a flag for an illegal blind-side block?

The league will announce this week whether they think the call was right. If they do, after review, then they'll fine Ed and suspend him for the final game. It they admit it was a bad call, you won't hear anything about it because they will neither fine nor suspend him.

[44Defense]

a joke. the the game is too fast to adjust at full speed.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Serious question... does anyone ever remember Hines Ward drawing a flag for an illegal blind-side block?

The league will announce this week whether they think the call was right. If they do, after review, then they'll fine Ed and suspend him for the final game. It they admit it was a bad call, you won't hear anything about it because they will neither fine nor suspend him.

They changed the rules specifically to eliminate the very types of hits Ward used to make. "Unofficially", it's called the Hines Ward rule. (Or at least I remember reading that at the time the new rule came out.)

[OriginalColtsFan]

Now it isn't even good enough to lower your shoulder and correctly avoid hitting helmets. Twice today I've seen calls that were flagged as personal fouls that were clean hits. Ed Reed lowered his shoulder and hit the runner and was flagged. Just now Seattle got flagged on a hit to Vernon Davis that was a shoulder to the chest. Can you now not hit anyone above the belt? Roger Goodell is ruining football.

That call against the Seahawks was highway robbery. The guy made a PERFECT NFL hit; shoulders smashing into the chest of the WR. NO helmet-to-helmet contact at all. It was just that the guys head snapped back from the impact. Totally infuriating call, IMO.

[BlandFood]

That call against the Seahawks was highway robbery. The guy made a PERFECT NFL hit; shoulders smashing into the chest of the WR. NO helmet-to-helmet contact at all. It was just that the guys head snapped back from the impact. Totally infuriating call, IMO.

Enjoy it while you still can, the game is ruined and will eventually cost the watered down league in viewers. Maybe it's time for another competitor to try again.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Enjoy it while you still can, the game is ruined and will eventually cost the watered down league in viewers. Maybe it's time for another competitor to try again.

The problem with an alternative competitor is that anyone expecting a high quality product would not be satisfied with an alternative product, since all the scouting and recruiting would still tilt the scales too heavily towards the NFL. And the TV rights probably have clauses prohibiting competition, etc. That's not to say that the NFL isn't going down the tubes as far as quality, but it'd be almost impossible to come up with a truly competitive alternative, IMO.

[BlandFood]

All valid but fans will eventually get sick of the 2 hand touch league. WFL or USFL..... remember a REALLY hungry Baltimore loved their CFL team. Kinda like a vampire only getting a drop or 2 , well eventually fans in 10 or 20 years perhaps will want REAL football again. look at the offensive records that are broken every 5 years..... total bull.

[Eastside Terp]

haven't seen it on tv yet but on the board at the stadium the reed hit looked picture perfect .......

the block by the wr also look clean ......

[SNAFU]

Roger Goodell is ruining football.

He's already ruined it!

[CajunRaven]

haven't seen it on tv yet but on the board at the stadium the reed hit looked picture perfect .......

the block by the wr also look clean ......

They were good clean hard hits.

[DkBlue]

That call against the Seahawks was highway robbery. The guy made a PERFECT NFL hit; shoulders smashing into the chest of the WR. NO helmet-to-helmet contact at all. It was just that the guys head snapped back from the impact. Totally infuriating call, IMO.

That was a perfect hit. Reed's hit went a little higher and his shoulder impacted the head at the end. That is the rule change this year.

If he gets suspended think about this..he would lose 440,000. Belichik was fined $500,000 for a huge cheating scandal. Way out of prorportion.

[Ravens2006]

I don't think they can fine or suspend him. I mean, the league MUST have burned all the film of Reed's prior "illegal hits"... sort of like they did with the Patriots film... so technically there's no evidence left that Reed ever did anything wrong.

[OriginalColtsFan]

That was a perfect hit. Reed's hit went a little higher and his shoulder impacted the head at the end. That is the rule change this year.

If he gets suspended think about this..he would lose 440,000. Belichik was fined $500,000 for a huge cheating scandal. Way out of prorportion.

I could be wrong, but it seems as if Reed isn't bending any more and that's causing his hits to keep being high. I agree -- it started out okay, but by the end, there did appear to be some helmet to helmet contact. It's hard to know what's what now with the rules, though.

[DkBlue]

I could be wrong, but it seems as if Reed isn't bending any more and that's causing his hits to keep being high. I agree -- it started out okay, but by the end, there did appear to be some helmet to helmet contact. It's hard to know what's what now with the rules, though.

We used to be taught to put the helmet into the breastbone but then the spearing rules changed that. It is hard to make a completely legal tackle now.