Atlanta Journal : Lanza's AR-15 Was Found In The ***TRUNK***Of His Car

[Contumacious]

Newtown massacre reawakens question of gun control

It has been widely reported that a Bushmaster .223 assault weapon — a version of the AR-15 — was found in the trunk of the vehicle driven by Adam Lanza to the school. However, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut state patrol said at a press conference this morning that all recovered weapons were found in close proximity to Lanza’s body."

What are the Pho King facts?!?!?!?!?!?

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[AttackPlanR]

It wasn't his gun. It was his law-abiding mother's gun.

[Contumacious]

Newtown massacre reawakens question of gun control

It has been widely reported that a Bushmaster .223 assault weapon — a version of the AR-15 — was found in the trunk of the vehicle driven by Adam Lanza to the school. However, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut state patrol said at a press conference this morning that all recovered weapons were found in close proximity to Lanza’s body."

What are the Pho King facts?!?!?!?!?!?

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ABC NEWS VIDEO CONFIRMS AR-15 in the trunk of his car.

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[Joy in Mudville]

Newtown massacre reawakens question of gun control

It has been widely reported that a Bushmaster .223 assault weapon — a version of the AR-15 — was found in the trunk of the vehicle driven by Adam Lanza to the school. However, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut state patrol said at a press conference this morning that all recovered weapons were found in close proximity to Lanza’s body."

What are the Pho King facts?!?!?!?!?!?

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Thank you for providing that link. It was very informative. I found this passage particularly interesting. Here I'll bold it for you.

Those countries with much lower death rates do not achieve those rates by allowing free and easy access to guns by almost everybody, regardless of training. Quite the contrary. Those few countries in which guns are even more ubiquitous than the United States — countries such as Iraq — have much higher death rates.

In addition, gun laws are more lax here in the South and guns themselves are more numerous. Under the NRA theory, that ought to produce a more civil, less violent society. The data say otherwise:

Thank you again for advancing the debate about this important issue.

[cprenegade]

Thank you for providing that link. It was very informative. I found this passage particularly interesting. Here I'll bold it for you.

Thank you again for advancing the debate about this important issue.

Since you read the article, you must have also read the following:

Yesterday’s school shooting took place in Connecticut, a state with strong gun-control laws. The high kill rate in the shootings — only one person was wounded and survived — suggests Lanza was experienced with firearms. But based on what we know now, it is hard to explain in concrete, direct fashion how any reasonable set of changes to our gun laws would have prevented Friday’s tragedy.

As a practical matter, outlawing pistols would not be feasible given how many are already in circulation. It would also be impossible politically. Outlawing high-capacity magazines might be another matter, but again, as of yet we have no indication they played a role in this attack.

Guns are inanimate objects. Guns don’t kill people; people kill people. I accept all of that as fact. That record suggests a possible path forward for those who recognize both the constitutional right to possess firearms and the necessity of mitigating the damage done when those guns fall into the wrong hands.

The author makes some very valid points on behalf of both the gun lovers and anti-gun camp. Instead of trying to go off on a knee-jerk reaction to a terrible tragedy, perhaps the best answer is to find a middle ground that preserves law abiding citizens rights, and at the same time tightens up holes in the laws that might allow guns to fall into the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Or our politicians can just pass some legislation to say they did something without actually thinking it through and passing something meaningful that might make a real difference. Much like they did with health care!

[naive]

[QUOTE=Contumacious;8232863What are the Pho King facts?!?!?!?!?!?

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20 kids dead...

[Phoenix]

A very good thread, Contumacious. Like a lot of people, I wondered how the story evolved from two handguns being used in the massacre to an AR-15 rifle. Reports said that there were "bullets" lying all over the place inside the school. There is a world of difference between spent 9MM or 40 caliber pistol cartridges and spent .223 rifle cartridges, and any LEO knows the difference, but apparently the news media does not even know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge.

Just like Benghazi, there appears to be a world of misinformation being fed to the U.S. population on this tragedy.

So, what is the truth, news media?

Did Adam Lanza in fact use an AR-15 inside the school?

Or did he only use two pistols as was initially reported?

[Grindelwald]

Seriously, his AR-15 was found in the trunk of his car because he never used that gun! He used his mother's gun, remember? People cannot be this stupid.

[veritas]

Seriously, his AR-15 was found in the trunk of his car because he never used that gun! He used his mother's gun, remember? People cannot be this stupid.

Since when were there two AR15's?

[slapshot]

"A law enforcement source told CBS News that Adam Lanza had three weapons with him during the attack: Two handguns (a Sig Sauer and a Glock), and a Bushmaster .223 assault rifle; spent shells were found in the school. Those three weapons were registered to his mother.

There was also a fourth weapon (a long gun) found in the car he drove to the school.

In addition, the source told CBS News there were "a few" other weapons found at the mother's house. The registry of the weapon in the car and at the house are still be checked. The tracing of all the weapons - such as where and when they were purchased - is still being conducted.

The Associated Press reports a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun were recovered. It was not clear exactly where those weapons were found."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...had-4-weapons/

[Grindelwald]

Since when were there two AR15's?

I don't know. Does it matter? I couldn't care less whether he had a gun in the back of his trunk or not.

[veritas]

I don't know. Does it matter? I couldn't care less whether he had a gun in the back of his trunk or not.

Well, we were told he used an AR15 but early stories made it sound like he had three weapons, one of which was left in the car. Ultimately, it doesn't matter because the killings could be done just as easily with handguns but I'm wondering exactly how Lanza gained entry to the school carrying an AR15. Were there any security procedures at all?

[slapshot]

Were there any security procedures at all?

when was the last time you visited a suburban elementary school?

Virtually no security, and what security that does exist, can be found at the front door....duh, easy to evade security.

[Contumacious]

Thank you for providing that link. It was very informative. I found this passage particularly interesting. Here I'll bold it for you.
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Yes, indeed it was very informative . Specially since fascist congresscritters are making a big deal about Lanza using an "ASSAULT RIFLE" to commit crimes .

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[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Long gun in trunk of car was shotgun. The two pistols were were unfired. Victims in the classroom were shot multiple times (3-11) with rifle.

Would this tragedy have been prevented or at the least minimized if Lanza would have only had 10 round magazines? Indications are that he reloaded multiple times.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Well, we were told he used an AR15 but early stories made it sound like he had three weapons, one of which was left in the car. Ultimately, it doesn't matter because the killings could be done just as easily with handguns but I'm wondering exactly how Lanza gained entry to the school carrying an AR15. Were there any security procedures at all?

They had CCTV and electronic lock doors. Visitors had to be "buzzed" in.

Unfortunately the barrier consisted of plate glass. He simply smashed it to gain entry.

I was told yesterday that his mother had been gone on a trip for 2 weeks. Supposedly he had planned and prepared for this while she was gone. It was not a spur of the moment decision.

[Phoenix]

Long gun in trunk of car was shotgun. The two pistols were were unfired. Victims in the classroom were shot multiple times (3-11) with rifle.

WESP, do you have a link?

This story has shifted so many times, I do not believe anything coming from the news media. Until the Connecticut State Police, the governor, or some bonafied law enforcement officer tells us all in some news release, this is not much more than speculation.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

WESP, do you have a link?

This story has shifted so many times, I do not believe anything coming from the news media. Until the Connecticut State Police, the governor, or some bonafied law enforcement officer tells us all in some news release, this is not much more than speculation.

No, I got this from a cop that was at my house yesterday. He also told me some other stuff.

I didn't ask where he got it and he has never been wrong in the past with things like this that he's told me.

[Dryfire]

It wasn't his gun. It was his law-abiding mother's gun.

Oh, so he stole the guns from her and killed her by multiple shots to the face. What a nice young man.

[veritas]

They had CCTV and electronic lock doors. Visitors had to be "buzzed" in.

Unfortunately the barrier consisted of plate glass. He simply smashed it to gain entry.

I was told yesterday that his mother had been gone on a trip for 2 weeks. Supposedly he had planned and prepared for this while she was gone. It was not a spur of the moment decision.

Electronic doors with plate glass? Brilliant. Wonder what genius came up with that.