Russell Wilson Best NFL Rookie QB I Have Seen in 48 Years Following NFL

[HAIL2BNG]

You oddly have an issue with one running QB and not the lesser one. That woiod be strange if you weren't a known hypocrite.

Now, either show me something, anything, that shows Wilson is better or STFU.

[Rael]

I bet you Wilson takes his team further in the playoffs than VickJr does. Put your money where your mouth is son. We will see how much the stats really matter when wins are the biggest most important stat of all. If I win you stop posting here the entire baseball season on the Orioles forum. If I lose, I will do the same. That means from opening day through the World Series. You can post on the other forum subject topics though. Do we have a bet?

If by chance the Seahawks and Redskins meet in the playoffs the winner of the bet is whichever team wins the game, not who has the best passing stats. Again, winning is the only important stat. Johnny Unitas said that stats are for losers, winning is the only thing that matters. Apparently, you know more than Unitas though as you live in Fantasy Stat world which makes sense, as it is a loser mentality which fits you to a tee.

By your previous assertion who goes farther in the playoffs will be meaningless unless they play the same teams...

[Rael]

Yeah, just like I was wrong when I dug in my heels and battled almost the whole board when I proclaimed Boller a horrible NFL QB and bust. Most of them no longer post here out of embarassment.

Suggs too as I recall.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

You oddly have an issue with one running QB and not the lesser one. That woiod be strange if you weren't a known hypocrite.

Now, either show me something, anything, that shows Wilson is better or STFU.

Its called observation son. Wilson has it all. He is quicker in making his decisions, in dropping back to throw, in reading a defense and reacting to it. He is also a "scrambler" not a runner meaning that he adroitly manuevers around looking to throw first not just taking off like a sprinter. Most importantly, he has already surpassed VickJr in football smarts as he knows how to slide down to avoid full contact saving his body from injury. He has not missed any games, no concussions, no sprained ligaments.

He also had major competition he had to beat out in Matt Flynn during training camp unlike your boy who was handed the job without earning it. All of these aspects make him more impressive than VickJr., who is a gimmicky running QB. A slightly faster, but much smaller version of Cam Newton, who is a good but not great NFL QB. Same with your boy.

Despite all of this and the fact that you overly rely on stats which is for Fantasy Football players and losers, I offered you a fair and square bet that Russell Wilson will lead his team further in the playoffs than your boy. What I get from you is every excuse under the son not to take my bet. The only reason can be is you are scared of losing which would hurt your giant ego. If your boy is so great you should have jumped on that bet like a fly on manure, so you are all talk and no substance.

Seattle was going no where with loser QB's like Tavaris Gooden but now they have a winner. DC has a winner too, but I am betting Seattle's is better. The proof is how far they go in the playoffs not some stupid stats that mean nothing without winning. You need only to look at Drew Brees. He has been lighting up the stats board and his team is terrible. So who cares?

[HAIL2BNG]

Oh, observation, huh? Are you using the same eyes that missed the hitch in Wilson's motion or the same eyes that thought they read Lynch missed "several games"? If so, I wouldn't trust them.

Also, your lack of understanding what Unitas meant when he said "stats are for losers" is hilarious. He was being a team player, not an idiot. He wouldn't be thick enough to ignore that of one player has better stats than another in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY, that they don't mean anything.

Lastly, Seattle went to the playoffs as a division winner with Tavaris Jackson (who is Gooden?) ha ha ha ha. Now they are a wild card. That proves that they clearly don't rely on their QB and that they took a step back this year under Wilson.

My guy improved his team in every way shape and form and, like Drew Brees, has a horrible defense that can't hold leads. Wilson? He has a top defense that wins games. That's just another one of your comically ignorant statements.

[HAIL2BNG]

Its called observation son. Wilson has it all. He is quicker in making his decisions, in dropping back to throw, in reading a defense and reacting to it. He is also a "scrambler" not a runner meaning that he adroitly manuevers around looking to throw first not just taking off like a sprinter. Most importantly, he has already surpassed VickJr in football smarts as he knows how to slide down to avoid full contact saving his body from injury. He has not missed any games, no concussions, no sprained ligaments.

He also had major competition he had to beat out in Matt Flynn during training camp unlike your boy who was handed the job without earning it. All of these aspects make him more impressive than VickJr., who is a gimmicky running QB. A slightly faster, but much smaller version of Cam Newton, who is a good but not great NFL QB. Same with your boy.

Despite all of this and the fact that you overly rely on stats which is for Fantasy Football players and losers, I offered you a fair and square bet that Russell Wilson will lead his team further in the playoffs than your boy. What I get from you is every excuse under the son not to take my bet. The only reason can be is you are scared of losing which would hurt your giant ego. If your boy is so great you should have jumped on that bet like a fly on manure, so you are all talk and no substance.

Seattle was going no where with loser QB's like Tavaris Gooden but now they have a winner. DC has a winner too, but I am betting Seattle's is better. The proof is how far they go in the playoffs not some stupid stats that mean nothing without winning. You need only to look at Drew Brees. He has been lighting up the stats board and his team is terrible. So who cares?

Quoting so dummy can't change his mistakes.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Quoting so dummy can't change his mistakes.

So I got Tavaris Jackson's last name wrong. Sue me. Who cares? The point I made stands. You are a scared little wimp who won't make a bet, while espousing how great your injury prone overated joke of a QB is. He is like a balloon about to pop every time he takes the field. Yeah, he is that fragile son and belongs on the bench with Kirk Cousins a real NFL QB as the starter. Eventually this is going to happen and you are too stupid to even see it. Vick Jr's artificially inflated stats mean nothing if he is going to get hurt repeatedly.

If he remains upright and on the field by the end of the game against Dallas I will be surprised. That will be a major headline if he escapes unscathed. Wilson, on the other hand knows how to avoid a pass rush and make plays with his legs without getting beaten to death, unlike your fool trying to play the position, but instead continually getting smoked by defenders crushing him like a gnat.

Similar to me crushing your idiotic posts on this thread where I have repeatedly exposed you as a front running coward who is clearly just scared of losing a bet. Again, if you are scared son, retire from this thread and just admit it and stop crying about me exposing you for what you are. There is no crying in football. Put your money were your mouth is or get off this thread and stay off junior.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

By your previous assertion who goes farther in the playoffs will be meaningless unless they play the same teams...

I would love to see them play each other. That would show this Redskin/Yankee fan troll that Wilson is the real deal and VickJr well - is VickJr.

[HAIL2BNG]

Lets recap here: Griffin has the better stats, has improved his team more despite his defense being worse than it was the year before, has the same record as Wilson without a free win and made the pro bowl, Hadley thinks Wilson is better.

This is the same prison guard turned accountant who thought Lynch missed several games and can't get players' names right. He also doesn't know about arm mechanics and what his hero meant when he said said stats are for losers.

Seriously, you couldn't be losing this any worse. You're like a dumb teenager except you don't have youth as an excuse. You're willfully ignorant and that's the worst kind.

[Rael]

I would love to see them play each other. That would show this Redskin/Yankee fan troll that Wilson is the real deal and VickJr well - is VickJr.

So you agree that you are attempting to make a wager on something that you called meaningless? Then you call out the opposing party for not taking you up on your meaningless wager. Why don't you two wager on something that matters?

Look I think Wilson is the real deal. I think RG3 is also the real deal. You tend to make snap decisions and then back them to the point of ridicule whether they pan out or not. You have no more idea that RG3 is going to be a bust than you did when you proclaimed Suggs was a bust and it took you a couple of years to come down off that ledge. Why don't you just watch both players develop for a couple of years? Would ethnicity be playing into your snap judgement of RG3? While not normally a card I like to play, there seems to be a level of animosity to your posts that cannot easily be explained away by anything else.

[The Eternal White Belt]

Lets recap here: Griffin has the better stats, has improved his team more despite his defense being worse than it was the year before, has the same record as Wilson without a free win and made the pro bowl, Hadley thinks Wilson is better.

This is the same prison guard turned accountant who thought Lynch missed several games and can't get players' names right. He also doesn't know about arm mechanics and what his hero meant when he said said stats are for losers.

Seriously, you couldn't be losing this any worse. You're like a dumb teenager except you don't have youth as an excuse. You're willfully ignorant and that's the worst kind.

I think it's obvious that this thread was created just to get you fired up. You should just ignore the old man.

[HAIL2BNG]

I think it's obvious that this thread was created just to get you fired up. You should just ignore the old man.

Oh I know, just when he begs to look like a moron, I am willing to oblige.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Oh I know, just when he begs to look like a moron, I am willing to oblige.

And you look like a coward because you are one. Alligator Mouth and canary rear end.

You won't bet because you know Wilson is better but won't admit it. He is leading his team to where VickJr cannot take his team, primarily because he is too stupid to protect himself when running like a fool.

I don't blame you for being scared boy because I would win that bet and brag about it for months how I ran you, the resident Yankee/Redskin interloping troll, off the Orioles forum for the entire season. I understand how you would not be able to handle the humiliation of me gloating over exposing your overated fragile VickJr for what he is - third best rookie QB behind Wilson and Luck. Heck, IMO he isn't even the best rookie QB on your own squad, but you are too stupid to see it. You really need to take your blinders off and stop being such a jock sniffing homer.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

So you agree that you are attempting to make a wager on something that you called meaningless? Then you call out the opposing party for not taking you up on your meaningless wager. Why don't you two wager on something that matters?

Look I think Wilson is the real deal. I think RG3 is also the real deal. You tend to make snap decisions and then back them to the point of ridicule whether they pan out or not. You have no more idea that RG3 is going to be a bust than you did when you proclaimed Suggs was a bust and it took you a couple of years to come down off that ledge. Why don't you just watch both players develop for a couple of years? Would ethnicity be playing into your snap judgement of RG3? While not normally a card I like to play, there seems to be a level of animosity to your posts that cannot easily be explained away by anything else.

My only animosity is directed at a Yankee/Redskin troll who the majority of this board cannot stand (other than you) because of his interloping arrogance. He has not one time ever posted anything positive about the Orioles or Ravens, yet continues to hang out here, unwelcome, unwanted and posting total B.S. about his teams, which nobody here wants to see (other than apparently you) as this is NOT a Redskin/Yankee based site but a BALTIMORE site. Of course, since apparently you like his drivel, maybe you two should get a room. Apparently, you have no loyalty to any team or city either. So I have no idea why you post here or defend trolls such as is. Total wishy washy type you are, but please carry on as usual.

[HAIL2BNG]

This whole thread is trolling so we know who the troll is here. Add that to the list of things you are wrong about.

At least you are admitting your ignorant opinion is only because you hate the Redskins and are racist.

[Rael]

My only animosity is directed at a Yankee/Redskin troll who the majority of this board cannot stand (other than you) because of his interloping arrogance. He has not one time ever posted anything positive about the Orioles or Ravens, yet continues to hang out here, unwelcome, unwanted and posting total B.S. about his teams, which nobody here wants to see (other than apparently you) as this is NOT a Redskin/Yankee based site but a BALTIMORE site. Of course, since apparently you like his drivel, maybe you two should get a room. Apparently, you have no loyalty to any team or city either. So I have no idea why you post here or defend trolls such as is. Total wishy washy type you are, but please carry on as usual.

Wow, the "get a room" retort. How original and clever of you. I fail to see how thinking a player of a team down 95 is good is somehow less "loyal" to the Ravens than thinking a player from the Pacific northwest is good but I presume you have your reasons that somehow make sense to you. I suppose I am "wishy washy" because I can enjoy watching the talent of players from around the league whereas you are steadfast and loyal because you can only enjoy the talents of the Ravens and (apparently) the Seahawks. For an old man you seem quite immature.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Wow, the "get a room" retort. How original and clever of you. I fail to see how thinking a player of a team down 95 is good is somehow less "loyal" to the Ravens than thinking a player from the Pacific northwest is good but I presume you have your reasons that somehow make sense to you. I suppose I am "wishy washy" because I can enjoy watching the talent of players from around the league whereas you are steadfast and loyal because you can only enjoy the talents of the Ravens and (apparently) the Seahawks. For an old man you seem quite immature.

You really don't get it. You are defending a Yankee/Redskin fan troll over about as diehard an Oriole/Ravens/Baltimore Colt fan as ever lived. You want to side with him on this fine. Just don't expect me to back you on anything ever on this board. His mere presense here is to be an irritant. You don't seem to realize that. It would be like me hangin out on a Yankee or Redskin forum only to spout off how great Joe Flacco and/or Adam Jones is and how much better they are than any of those fan's teams players are. If you don't understand that you are as big an idiot as he is, maybe worse because I guarantee you he "gets" it.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

This whole thread is trolling so we know who the troll is here. Add that to the list of things you are wrong about.

At least you are admitting your ignorant opinion is only because you hate the Redskins and are racist.

You are right, I am giving you, the RESIDENT Yankee/Redskin troll a dose of your own medicine and it is bugging the living crap out of you isn't it?

[Rael]

I am not defending anyone on this forum. I am suggesting that RG3 is a very good rookie. I don't need your or anyone else's "backing". It is a message board designed for people to post their opinions about NFL topics. It really isn't "us" vs "them".

Again, and I will try to say it slowly, I am not "siding" with anyone. I happen to agree with Hail that RG3 is an exciting player. On many other issues I disagree with him I am sure. However, I am not going to let some childish notion of tribal loyalty force me into an opinion about a player that I do not believe.

[HAIL2BNG]

You are right, I am giving you, the RESIDENT Yankee/Redskin troll a dose of your own medicine and it is bugging the living crap out of you isn't it?

A dose of what? I don't start threads just to be wrong. You seem to enjoy it. At least you're admitting its all because you think you're being loyal to your team. You are a child.