Gun Free Zone: British Violent Crimes Now 4 Times That In The US

[The Shadow]

Gun Free Zone: British Violent Crimes Now 4 Times That In The US

... there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.

By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.

UK is Violent Crime Capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.

The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...of-Europe.html

[Grindelwald]

So your saying all crimes require a gun? I thought guns were supposed to stop crime. The incomprehensible logic from the gun nuts never ceases to amaze.

[bmore_ken]

So your saying all crimes require a gun? I thought guns were supposed to stop crime. The incomprehensible logic from the gun nuts never ceases to amaze.

Come on it's funny

[Grindelwald]

It is funny.

[soulflower]

Meanwhile, crime has dropped significantly in gun-free DC and NYC

[dsummoner]

Firearms are the great equalizer when it comes to protecting oneself from the roving bandgroupings of direct redistribution Labour pe(s)ts.

[WKDWZD]

Gun Free British Violent Crimes Now 4 Times That In The US

... there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.

By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.

UK is Violent Crime Capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...of-Europe.html

As usual your reporting is disengenuos... further reading from your 3 year old link...

Researchers admit that comparisons of crime data between countries must be viewed with caution because of differing criminal justice systems and how crimes are reported and measured.

A Home Office spokesperson said: “These figures are misleading. Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.

“Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half since a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. “

There is more in the piece that trashes your 'theory' but I am limted by the thee paragraph rule.

[Calamari]

Another lie from the Shadow, busted.

[soulflower]

Another lie from the Shadow, busted.

He just reposts the bile that gets posted on sites like Drudge and Stormfront

[The Shadow]

Meanwhile, crime has dropped significantly in gun-free DC and NYC

The Underreporting of Crime is Epidemic

The underreporting of crime in our country has become an epidemic that threatens our Republic with increased violence and urban anarchy. The lack of accurate data about crime in our communities results in more risk to citizens and law enforcement personnel. If towns and cities don’t report crime data accurately, state and federal statistics won’t be accurate and planning and resource allocation cannot be effectively deployed to combat the criminals in our society. It is a bottom-up process. The F.B.I. Uniform Crime Reports are only as accurate as the information they receive, or don’t receive, from local jurisdictions.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...me-is-epidemic

Investigation into under reported crime rates with the NYPD

Village Voice: NYPD Crime Stats Are a Sham

According to gun control advocates, you don’t need a gun. You, the law-abiding citizen, are protected by the police. The po-po have no legal obligation to protect you, but c’mon. You’re no a crime fighter. And see? Crime’s going down. So forget all this armed self-defense stuff, kick back and let the cops do their job. Nowhere is this agit-prop more prevalent than it is in New York City. Mayor Michael Bloomberg is America’s most ardent and active gun control advocate. But how would that play out if it were widely known that New York City’s Finest (air quotes optional) have been intentionally under-reporting all sorts of crimes, including assault, armed assault and armed robbery? That the threat against law-abiding citizens is larger than advertised? Well guess what Serpico fans? The Village Voice has news for you . . .

For more than two years, Adrian Schoolcraft secretly recorded every roll call at the 81st Precinct in Brooklyn and captured his superiors urging police officers to do two things in order to manipulate the “stats” that the department is under pressure to produce: Officers were told to arrest people who were doing little more than standing on the street, but they were also encouraged to disregard actual victims of serious crimes who wanted to file reports. Arresting bystanders made it look like the department was efficient, while artificially reducing the amount of serious crime made the commander look good.

NYPD Report Confirms Manipulation of Crime Stats

The Crime Numbers Game: Management by Manipulation

And, hows that GUN FREE ZONE country of Mexico working out for Mexicans??

[The Shadow]

He just reposts the bile that gets posted on sites like Drudge and Stormfront

Don't you EVER learn?? http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...2&postcount=74

Now back up your "stormfront" accusation!

[soulflower]

The Underreporting of Crime is Epidemic



http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...me-is-epidemic

Investigation into under reported crime rates with the NYPD

Village Voice: NYPD Crime Stats Are a Sham
[/INDENT]NYPD Report Confirms Manipulation of Crime Stats

The Crime Numbers Game: Management by Manipulation

And, hows that GUN FREE ZONE country of Mexico working out for Mexicans??

Neither Mexico, Brazil, or South Africa are gun free yet have just as much if not more gun violence and crime than the US

You don't need a gun to commit a violent crime. Banning guns won't solve crime

[The Shadow]

As usual your reporting is disengenuos... further reading from your 3 year old link...
There is more in the piece that trashes your 'theory' but I am limted by the thee paragraph rule.

Also from the link:

Chris Grayling, shadow home secretary, said: "This is a real damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock-on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

"We're now on our fourth Home Secretary in this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction."

The figures were sourced from Eurostat, the European Commission's database of statistics. They are gathered using official sources in the countries concerned such as the national statistics office, the national prison administration, ministries of the interior or justice, and police.

[The Shadow]

Forgot to mention Obama/Holder's Gun Running operation to Violent Mexican Drug Gangs responsible for the deaths of hundreds of unarmed Mexican citizens.

[Omaha Beach]

So your saying all crimes require a gun? I thought guns were supposed to stop crime. The incomprehensible logic from the gun nuts never ceases to amaze.

As usual you miss, the point. Since Great Britian decided to disarm most of its, law, abiding people they have very little in the, way of protecting themselves from criminals. During the rioting in places, like London and Birmingham shopkeepers and other people were reduced to depending on baseball bats to defend themselves from roving gangs. Lets see Parliament propose a law making Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle gun free zones, no armed security for the Royal swells and see how far that gets.

[soulflower]

Forgot to mention Obama/Holder's Gun Running operation to Violent Mexican Drug gangs responsible for the deaths of hundreds of unarmed Mexican citizens.

Are you saying that Mexicans didn't get illegal guns from the US before Fast & Furious(which happened to be a poorly executed sting operation)?

It's pretty well documented that the US is the source of many of the guns in Mexico

[Just Pondering]

So your saying all crimes require a gun? I thought guns were supposed to stop crime. The incomprehensible logic from the gun nuts never ceases to amaze.

Some crimes only require a knife or a hammer. When challenging police officers, they will kill you dead.

[soulflower]

As usual you miss, the point. Since Great Britian decided to disarm most of its, law, abiding people they have very little in the, way of protecting themselves from criminals. During the rioting in places, like London and Birmingham shopkeepers and other people were reduced to depending on baseball bats to defend themselves from roving gangs. Lets see Parliament propose a law making Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle gun free zones, no armed security for the Royal swells and see how far that gets.

And you miss the point that guns have nothing to do with crime.

There are plenty of low crime areas where guns are banned and plenty of high crime areas where guns are legal.

It's not rational to think that crime will go away if you take guns out of the picture

[NOTAGUNNUT]

Why is the left so opposed to putting armed guards in schools when the school that Obama's kids attend has 11 armed guards?
Why are Obama's kids more vaulable than anyone else's?

[WKDWZD]

Also from the link:

Even more from your 3 year old link...

Separate figures disclosed in May showed that the number of people requiring hospital treatment after being seriously hurt in street fights or assaults has risen 50 per cent in five years.
More than 20 people a day were taken to hospital accident and emergency departments in England last year after being hit, kicked, scratched or bitten.

Wow! Such heinous crimes. I wonder how many would have turned into homicides if the perpetrators had been armed?

Anyway... Your opinion, would be interesting, on this BBC piece from this year that states UK crime at a 30 year low.