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Thread: Where did the Obamas' attend Christmas service in Hawaii?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Terry--

    How can you post your nonsense here without any kind of embarrassment?

    This case specifically said the court would not resolve the issue of children of non-citizen parents, and Barack Obama had one citizen parent. This in no way substantiates your claim that "[t]o be a natural born citizen requires citizenship to be conveyed by jus soli AND jus sanguis(the citizenship of the parents)."

    And again, what is the significance of where or whether the President attended Christmas church services?
    That ilk is incapable of embarrassment. They keep proving it over and over...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry K View Post
    Do you have any documentation to substantiate your claim or are you merely assuming. To be a natural born citizen requires citizenship to be conveyed by jus soli AND jus sanguis(the citizenship of the parents).

    It has been clearly established that the children of American citizens serving the government, born in Embassy's or military bases(US soil), are "natural born citizens". McCain, I believe, was born in a private hospital off base and therefore not on US soil. Accordingly, he was not a "Natural born Citizen" lacking jus soli. The Democrats obviously recognized this and proffered the "non-binding resolution" declaring McCain natural born. I suspect both Obama and Clinton viewed McCain as the weakest candidate the GOP could offer and wanted to make sure he could run. It may also explain why McCain raised no questions about Obama's eligibility.
    One of the finest examples of tinfoil hat/conspiracy nut/paranoid fool thinking you'll ever run across. I especially enjoyed the Obama/Clinton/McCain conspiracy part. I needed a good horse-laugh today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Terry--

    How can you post your nonsense here without any kind of embarrassment?

    This case specifically said the court would not resolve the issue of children of non-citizen parents, and Barack Obama had one citizen parent. This in no way substantiates your claim that "[t]o be a natural born citizen requires citizenship to be conveyed by jus soli AND jus sanguis(the citizenship of the parents)."

    And again, what is the significance of where or whether the President attended Christmas church services?
    Matt,
    I post an actual Supreme Court decision and you counter with a link from Snopes.Com and you have the audacity to ask me "How can you post your nonsense here without any kind of embarrassment? Have you actually read the Snopes response. It is poorly written and meanders all over without actually addressing the distinction between being a "natural born citizen" and a citizen via other means.

    Attached are several additional citations from SCOTUS addressing the definition of "natural born. Undoubtedly, the Justices speak with more knowledge and legal authority than the opinion of SNOPES.com

    The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
    Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
    United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)


    As to the significance of where or whether the President attended Christmas church services, I never stated there was any significance but merely raised the question where did they attend?

    Happy New Year!

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    Terry--

    You post a link to a Supreme Court decision that doesn't say what you purport it to say and you accuse me of not being serious.

    Happy New Year to you, too.
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