Chicago Records 500th Murder of 2012

[Manny]

The strict Chicago gun laws surely serve as a model for the rest of the country.

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-reache...145951769.html

[bmorepunk]

Chicago's murder rate is down by about half since 1992, just like Texas, Florida, and everywhere else.

Mind blown.

[Jeebus]

July 2010 - Chicago passes nation's strictest gun control laws, mandatory registration & training, no handguns allowed outside home even on porch.

Pretty clear that criminals don't obey laws. Shocker, I know.

Chicago City Law Department spokeswoman Jennifer Hoyle said the Supreme Court allowed for "reasonable restrictions" and that is exactly what the local law provides. "We think it's constitutional and there is nothing to stop us from enforcing it. We are allowing people to keep a handgun in their home for self defense. The definition of a home is the livable section of the property, not the back yard or the porch or the garage. Our concern is the safety of the general public who can be more exposed in those areas."

Today the Chicago Police Department will begin detailing on its website steps to becoming a legal gun owner. The first step is to get a permit, which requires range and classroom training, decent eyesight, a fingerprint background check and other elements. Once the permit is obtained, all guns must be registered. That includes the single loaded gun in the house, as well as an unlimited supply of unloaded rifles and shotguns allowed under the law. Residents are allowed to buy one additional handgun every month but are prohibited from owning assault weapons, sawed-off shotguns, laser sites, mufflers and other accessories, Hoyle said.

"Only one gun can be ready to use at a moment's notice," said Hoyle. "All the others need to be in something like a lockbox."

[Jeebus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_i...go#cite_note-5

In 2005, 75% of murders involved a firearm, and 11% were the result of a stabbing. 41% of domestic murders were stabbings. 10% of murders in 2005 (39) were the result of an armed robbery, 9% were of undetermined cause, and at least 30% were gang altercations. Over 40% of victims and 60% of offenders were between the ages of 17 and 25. 85% of victims and 93% of offenders were male. 76% of victims were African American (77.4% of offenders were), 18.3% were Hispanic (17.3% of offenders), and 5.6% were white (5.3% of offenders).

The African American murder victimization rate was approximately 34 per 100,000; the Hispanic rate was 11 per 100,000, and the white rate 3 per 100,000. Over 75% of victims and 88% of offenders had a prior arrest history. 11% of armed robbery victims were female, 50% of domestic victims were female, and 7% of gang-related victims were female. 31% of armed robbery victims were over 45 years old. 29% of domestic-related murders were committed by women. From 1991 to 2005, 19.2% of armed robbery murder victims were white, and only 4.3% of armed robbery murder offenders were white.

(2005) Victims of gang-related murders: 70% African American, 26% Hispanic, 3% white; 93% male. Offenders in gang-related murders: 76% African American, 20% Hispanic, 3% white; 99% male. Victims of domestic-related murders: 79% African American, 10% Hispanic, 11% white. Victims of armed robbery—related murders: 68% African American, 13% Hispanic, 19% white, 89% male. Offenders in armed robbery—related murders: 87% African American, 9% Hispanic, 4% white; 93% male.

[dsummoner]

It is a win-win-win situation to the extent that the gangs are cleaning up their own garbage. It gets rid of the gang trash (with the street level hoods most likely being nothing more than serial inseminators of the on the dole hood rat trash). It, just like the failure of 'drug control,' shows the failure of 'gun control.' Finally, it serves as direct environmental action by eliminating carbon footprints to zero. Of course, ending the failed 'war' on drugs would eliminate the black market profit motive thereby eliminating the importance of the 'corner' in the hood as a physical location for sales. Of course, the layers of government dedicated to violating individual civil liberties and the allopathic looter oligopoly would then become completely unhinged.

[soulflower]

Chicago - 20 homicides per 100k pop.

NYC - 5 homicides per 100k

Detroit - 50 homicides per 100k

[flyboy56]

Chicago - 20 homicides per 100k pop.

NYC - 5 homicides per 100k

Detroit - 50 homicides per 100k

So what is NYC doing that Detroit and Chicago aren't?

[soulflower]

So what is NYC doing that Detroit and Chicago aren't?

That's a good question

[Brohan]

So what is NYC doing that Detroit and Chicago aren't?

Violating people's civil libirties.

[Brohan]

That's a good question

Not really.

[flyboy56]

Violating people's civil libirties.

In what way?

[BlandFood]

Chicago - 20 homicides per 100k pop.

NYC - 5 homicides per 100k

Detroit - 50 homicides per 100k

Any wonder? Look at the trash on Hard Core Pawn!

[Candy Pickletoes]

Any wonder? Look at the trash on Hard Core Pawn!

Off topic but...Seth crawls right up under my skin and every time I look at him he reminds me of Jeebs:

http://movieclips.com/REr4-men-in-bl...oses-his-head/

[BlandFood]

Off topic but...Seth crawls right up under my skin and every time I look at him he reminds me of Jeebs:

http://movieclips.com/REr4-men-in-bl...oses-his-head/

Hmmmmm, K........

[Brohan]

In what way?

Stop and frisk.

[flyboy56]

Stop and frisk.

You are saying the police just stop and frisk anyone who is just walking down the sidewalk?

[Brohan]

You are saying the police just stop and frisk anyone who is just walking down the sidewalk?

If they want to....

[slapshot]

If they want to....

If they want to?

On a whim, or probable cause?

If the former.....link, please.

[bmore_ken]

If they want to?

On a whim, or probable cause?

If the former.....link, please.

It's Brohan dude, you really expect a factual link to his nonsense?

[Brohan]

It's Brohan dude, you really expect a factual link to his nonsense?

Ok Carlton.