Obama Orders Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers

[slapshot]

but you probably work for a living .......

And members of the Armed Service, don't?

Bet they work harder than you do? In fact, bet they do more before 0800, than you do all day.

[slapshot]

That is an excellent question.

Ask your husband whether he supports not giving members of the military a pay raise? Since he is a vet, I'm curious to see what his answer is?

This meager pay raise also includes a modest increase for those in the armed service. Should they be denied? I don't think so.

The people that shouldn't get a raise are the do nothing's in Congress. Really, what do these bumps on the log do for this Country? If anything, they should be giving their salaries back to the Treasury.

[SoSad]

Ask your husband whether he supports not giving members of the military a pay raise? Since he is a vet, I'm curious to see what his answer is?

This meager pay raise also includes a modest increase for those in the armed service. Should they be denied? I don't think so.

The people that shouldn't get a raise are the do nothing's in Congress. Really, what do these bumps on the log do for this Country? If anything, they should be giving their salaries back to the Treasury.

slapshot, I was talking about the increase to congress, not our armed forces.

[bmorepunk]

This pay raise will cost us a grand total of less than $500,000 for Congress.

We sure do love our indignant symbolism, don't we?

[Eastside Terp]

And members of the Armed Service, don't?

Bet they work harder than you do? In fact, bet they do more before 0800, than you do all day.

lol, ok government employee, go back to sleep now ......

wake up when you have something meaningful to post on this board (but at that rate we might have to call you rip van slappy) .......

so give the military a raise and separate it from the rest ......

this is just like they stick the pork in every bill so libs can get all indigent and focus on one piece of the bill to defend the package ......

[Eastside Terp]

This pay raise will cost us a grand total of less than $500,000 for Congress.

We sure do love our indignant symbolism, don't we?

that's 500k more than they deserve .......

[Just Pondering]

Based on their dismal performance, Congress should take a pay cut. But, alas, that would be out of the question!

[Mom49of4]

Based on their dismal performance, Congress should take a pay cut. But, alas, that would be out of the question!

I love your thinking. lol

[bmorepunk]

that's 500k more than they deserve .......

Right, but we could save 1.5 trillion dollars over several decades cutting the F-35 program, or a bunch of other huge cuts in the 10s or 100s of millions, billions, or even trillions. but we're talking about $500,000. DARPA spent $100,000 on their workshop asking whether Klingons would believe in Jesus too.

[slapshot]

slapshot, I was talking about the increase to congress, not our armed forces.

But the Executive Order ties them all together.

[slapshot]

lol, ok government employee, go back to sleep now ......

wake up when you have something meaningful to post on this board (but at that rate we might have to call you rip van slappy) .......

so give the military a raise and separate it from the rest ......

this is just like they stick the pork in every bill so libs can get all indigent and focus on one piece of the bill to defend the package ......

Wake me up when you actually know what you're talking about.

Fact is, you didn't even read it. Fact is, you didn't even know it included raises to our Armed Service personnel. Fact is, you spouted off your big mouth before knowing any of the specifics.

Who's going to separate an Executive Order? Congress? You? LOL. Learn something before opening your trap.


"Executive orders have the full force of law,[1] since issuances are typically made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress, some of which specifically delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation), or are believed to take authority from a power granted directly to the Executive by the Constitution."

http://www.opm.gov/oca/compmemo/2012/2013PAY_Attach.pdf

[SoSad]

But the Executive Order ties them all together.

Understood, but Obama could have easily had an Executive Order that didn't tie them all together. Almost half of congress are in the millionares club. I'm not anxious to help them out. I think it was a bad move on Obama's part, but he can fall back on the same argument that you present.

I think it's 100% unnecessary to give congress a raise.

[Eastside Terp]

Understood, but Obama could have easily had an Executive Order that didn't tie them all together. Almost half of congress are in the millionares club. I'm not anxious to help them out. I think it was a bad move on Obama's part, but he can fall back on the same argument that you present.

I think it's 100% unnecessary to give congress a raise.

of course he could .......

[slapshot]

Understood, but Obama could have easily had an Executive Order that didn't tie them all together. Almost half of congress are in the millionares club. I'm not anxious to help them out. I think it was a bad move on Obama's part, but he can fall back on the same argument that you present.

I think it's 100% unnecessary to give congress a raise.

If nothing else, it's symbolic. Possible good will? Who knows? He loses nothing from his action.

[SoSad]

If nothing else, it's symbolic. Possible good will? Who knows? He loses nothing from his action.

I do think it's a good will gesture. Since some of them will be getting tax hikes, this will make it a little bit easier on their wallets.

If you really think about it though, Obama is using tax payer money for this good will gesture. Congress isn't going to care, but I think it's bad form when we're in the midst of hard times.

[flyboy56]

I do think it's a good will gesture. Since some of them will be getting tax hikes, this will make it a little bit easier on their wallets.

If you really think about it though, Obama is using tax payer money for this good will gesture. Congress isn't going to care, but I think it's bad form when we're in the midst of hard times.

Every single campaign promise Obama made was going to use taxpayer money. I don't like the idea he can use my money to secure his job.

[flyboy56]

Ask your husband whether he supports not giving members of the military a pay raise? Since he is a vet, I'm curious to see what his answer is?

This meager pay raise also includes a modest increase for those in the armed service. Should they be denied? I don't think so.

The people that shouldn't get a raise are the do nothing's in Congress. Really, what do these bumps on the log do for this Country? If anything, they should be giving their salaries back to the Treasury.

So typical to tie a pay raise for our do nothing elected officials to a raise the our military members and then dare someone not to vote for it. Kind of like this recent fiscal cliff bill the senate passed which also includes an unemployment extension for the long term unemployed. Now the Democrats are just daring the House Republicans not to pass it. Despicable!

[flyboy56]

Right, but we could save 1.5 trillion dollars over several decades cutting the F-35 program, or a bunch of other huge cuts in the 10s or 100s of millions, billions, or even trillions. but we're talking about $500,000. DARPA spent $100,000 on their workshop asking whether Klingons would believe in Jesus too.

At least those workers are producing something. And the F-35 is one badass aircraft!

[pickles]

Every single campaign promise Obama made was going to use taxpayer money. I don't like the idea he can use my money to secure his job.

How does the President usually pay for things?

Out of his own pocket?

[pickles]

At least those workers are producing something. And the F-35 is one badass aircraft!

One bad-*** aircraft that isn't fully functionable, and is about 10x over budget.

You seem real serious about the budget.