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    Default More of the same: The surveillance state

    The illegitimacy of government.

    Civil rights campaigners voiced dismay on Friday over the US Senate's re-authorization of the government's warrantless surveillance program, and the defeat of two amendments that would have provided for basic oversight of the eavesdropping.

    The Senate voted 73-23 to extend the law, called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments Act, for five years. The House of Representatives has already passed the measure, which President Obama has said he will sign.
    Different? No. More of the same. Such is what happens when individual liberties are surrendered under the emotively driven false pretense of government providing security and protection.

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    More on the issue from the EFF.

    Incredibly, the Senate rejected all the proposed amendments that would have brought a modicum of transparency and oversight to the government's activities, despite previous refusals by the Executive branch to even estimate how many Americans are surveilled by this program or reveal critical secret court rulings interpreting it... Tellingly, Sen. Rand Paul's "Fourth Amendment Protection Act," which would have affirmed Americans' emails are protected from unwarranted search and seizures (just like physical letters and phone calls), was voted down by the Senate in a landslide.

    Of course, the fight against illegal and unconsitutional warrantless wiretapping is far from over. Since neither the President, who once campaigned on a return to rule of law on surveillance of Americans, nor the Congress, which has proven to be the enabler-in-chief of the Executive's overreach, have been willing to protect the privacy of Americans in their digital papers, all eyes should now turn to the Courts. EFF was just in federal court in San Francisco two weeks ago, challenging the NSA's untargeted dragnet warrantless surveillance program. And the Supreme Court will soon rule whether the ACLU's constitutional challenge to the "targeted" portions of the FISA Amendments Act can go forward.

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    No surprise that Obama lied to get re-elected. Why does anyone expect anything less than total lies from the king of lies. Obama did campaign on a return to rule of law on surveillance of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalisburySage View Post
    No surprise that Obama lied to get re-elected. Why does anyone expect anything less than total lies from the king of lies. Obama did campaign on a return to rule of law on surveillance of Americans.
    It's not just Obama. Congress is equally complicit. Only a handful of senators voted to require warrants for email.
    Last edited by downhome; 12-29-2012 at 02:49 PM.

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    The Act went through the house, senate and the president in about a day.

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    Does the ACLU have a stance against this anti-privacy act? Or are they still running around taking down crosses on public lands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Does the ACLU have a stance against this anti-privacy act? Or are they still running around taking down crosses on public lands?
    Yes, there's tons of info on their website. The link takes you to the section on surveillance and privacy issues.

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