Get off your high horse

[Brohan]

I agree.

I liked Bagwell as a player. he made it fun to watch Astros games. but his body tell me, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he was juicing. as a juicer, he was nowhere near the production level of the other juicers. he needs about 100-125 more HRs.



I'd put Griffey jr. above him. Griffey was a significantly better defensive player, and with no hint of PEDs suspicion, he was obviously a bigger offensive presence as well. take away Balco, and I have no doubt Griffey would have surpassed Bonds in power numbers.

Why dont you suspect Griffey of using ped's? He got huge and then got injured all the time. He is as guilty as anyone else.

[weird-O]

Why dont you suspect Griffey of using ped's? He got huge and then got injured all the time. He is as guilty as anyone else.

I challenge you to show 2 pictures of Griffey to support your assertion that he got huge, because I didn't see it.

[Brohan]

I challenge you to show 2 pictures of Griffey to support your assertion that he got huge, because I didn't see it.

I am sure nothing short of Griffey admitting it will change your mind being a fanatic and all; but take a look at the picture of him when they rolled out those futuristic uniforms. I remember him looking all raided out in those.

Save your 'it was I'm maturing' excuse for someone else.

[soulflower]

Smaller parks as well as better equipment also contribute to an increase in HRs. Steroids were not the only reason.

Expansion may have had something to do with it too. The Marlins, Rockies, Rays, Diamondbacks were added in the late 90's.

One certainly can't rule out other factors when even guys like Tony Gwynn(not suspected of being a roider) put up career numbers in the mid-90s.

[soulflower]

Why dont you suspect Griffey of using ped's? He got huge and then got injured all the time. He is as guilty as anyone else.

Griffey a roider? I need something concrete to believe that