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    After 7 head coaches got the axe and possibly one or two more, do you think that Brian Billick garners any attention or interviews? Would he even want to go back to coaching?


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    I certainly would give him a look .......

    half a dozen slappys already got jobs he was better qualified for ......

    I think he would be interested in one more gig if only to go out on a better note and for a few more million in the bank .....

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    He was close in Buffalo last time. I hope he gets a shot. And the first thing he should do is hired Lovie Smith.

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    I think his best fit would be the Cleveland job. Good young QB, and an owner willing to spend money. I'm guessing that if he could pick, he'd take the San Diego job for the quality of the locale.
    I think he should get a look, some of these owners must have listened to him on analysis shows, or in the booth, he knows his stuff, and articulates it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpolitics View Post
    He was close in Buffalo last time. I hope he gets a shot. And the first thing he should do is hired Lovie Smith.
    No, he wasn't.

    He really wanted the Miami job last year.

    Billick's done as a coach. Teams want young and fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elj1201 View Post
    No, he wasn't.

    He really wanted the Miami job last year.

    Billick's done as a coach. Teams want young and fresh.
    He actually had the coaching staff lined up in Buffalo. Tice would be OC.
    Ralph Wilson is 95 and doesn't have time for young and fresh. I think if he wants a HC job he needs to get back as a OC. The problem is it is risky (see Mike Martz).

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpolitics View Post
    He actually had the coaching staff lined up in Buffalo. Tice would be OC.
    Ralph Wilson is 95 and doesn't have time for young and fresh. I think if he wants a HC job he needs to get back as a OC. The problem is it is risky (see Mike Martz).
    Sure there were rumors and reports, Was he actually "close" to the job? No.

    he was "closer" to getting the job in miami last year

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    Billick is just happy living off the last year or so of the money he's getting paid off from the last contract he signed from owner Steve Bisciotti as well as the money he is making from doing games for Fox. He has money to burn, because he is an investor in WNST which probably isn't making much money at all. Brian does not need the stress of being a head coach again.

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    Brian is no dummy. I'll always have a degree of appreciation for the job he did here early on in his head coaching career.

    All that aside, one has to wonder why he hasn't been able to land another job. Is he viewed as smooth talker who really rode the coat tails of some great defensive players here? I think that is very plausible.

    Brian makes a great TV analyst. A media gig fits him very well. Communications was his major in college.

    It has to be humbling for him in some ways to see vacancy after vacancy filled without his name ever truly being in the mix.

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    Yeah. I'm sure teams are just chomping at the bit to hire Brian Billick. I mean...just look at the past several years, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by West Chester Raven View Post
    Brian is no dummy. I'll always have a degree of appreciation for the job he did here early on in his head coaching career.

    All that aside, one has to wonder why he hasn't been able to land another job. Is he viewed as smooth talker who really rode the coat tails of some great defensive players here? I think that is very plausible.

    Brian makes a great TV analyst. A media gig fits him very well. Communications was his major in college.

    It has to be humbling for him in some ways to see vacancy after vacancy filled without his name ever truly being in the mix.
    As a former coach (certainly not anywhere near the NFL level ), I will tell you there is no such thing as winning a championship by being lucky or riding the coattails of players. That may be true in regular season sometimes when teams play inferior opponents, but in the playoffs, etc., that would be exposed.

    Throughout the years I have seen teams with great players that never really lived up to their potential. I also have seen some mediocre teams (personnel-wise) rise for the occasion and win the big game. Being a successful coach takes a lot of work and people who have never done it mostly do not realize all the nuances of coaching.

    Billick may have been at the right place at the right time, but don't understate his coaching ability. He did a wonderful job in the Super Bowl season and overall, he did well throughout the years in Baltimore. I know he wasn't perfect, but he was a damn good coach. I do wonder if he would want to coach anymore though. He seems to be doing well at Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    As a former coach (certainly not anywhere near the NFL level ), I will tell you there is no such thing as winning a championship by being lucky or riding the coattails of players. That may be true in regular season sometimes when teams play inferior opponents, but in the playoffs, etc., that would be exposed.

    Throughout the years I have seen teams with great players that never really lived up to their potential. I also have seen some mediocre teams (personnel-wise) rise for the occasion and win the big game. Being a successful coach takes a lot of work and people who have never done it mostly do not realize all the nuances of coaching.
    Do you think Brian Billick is a "great" coach? Personally, I think in 2000 he pushed all the right buttons, protected Ray Lewis from intense scrutiny, rallied the team around an "us vs them" mind set to perfection, uncorked the "you're a better team than people are giving you credit for" meme at the perfect time, and whipped his team into a swarming bunch of banshees that marched all the way into the winner's circle.

    After that, I think his weakness was rooted in a playing not to lose mind set. It was the antithesis of what lead to the Lombardi in the first place. And it ultimately led to his downfall.

    Supposedly it's a big deal that statistically, NO coach who won a super bowl with one team ever won another super bowl with another team, and it's a major factor preventing any team from hiring Billick. Could he be an improvement over some fired coaches? Probably. Is he the guy you want to lead your team to the Holy Land? Not for my money.

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    Come on, Bud. I know you're waitin to chime in man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Come on, Bud. I know you're waitin to chime in man.

    . I was going to yesterday, but I resisted the urge. First, let's set the record straight. Billick was NOT close to getting any job. In fact, he hasn't even scored a single interview yet. Recall, some here insisted he would be the hottest thing on the market with the option of picking his next job. Funny, NFL.COM did an article yesterday listing potential names we'll hear over the next few weeks. Of course, there's names like Cowher and Gruden along with the hot coordinators. Not surprisingly, Brian Billick's name doesn't appear anywhere. Rather, he was relegated to rating the jobs for a separate article.

    We can revisit Billick's flaws, but let's understand something; Billick isn't held in the same high regard by NFL owners that some in this town bestow upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Do you think Brian Billick is a "great" coach? Personally, I think in 2000 he pushed all the right buttons, protected Ray Lewis from intense scrutiny, rallied the team around an "us vs them" mind set to perfection, uncorked the "you're a better team than people are giving you credit for" meme at the perfect time, and whipped his team into a swarming bunch of banshees that marched all the way into the winner's circle.

    After that, I think his weakness was rooted in a playing not to lose mind set. It was the antithesis of what lead to the Lombardi in the first place. And it ultimately led to his downfall.

    Supposedly it's a big deal that statistically, NO coach who won a super bowl with one team ever won another super bowl with another team, and it's a major factor preventing any team from hiring Billick. Could he be an improvement over some fired coaches? Probably. Is he the guy you want to lead your team to the Holy Land? Not for my money.
    Yes, I believe he was a great coach. In nine years, he has had three losing seasons (and there were reasons for most of them - most notably, injuries).

    Even though it didn't work out, I agreed somewhat with the Trent Dilfer/Elvis Grbac deal at the time. Billick was trying to improve at the quarterback position and Dilfer was only a stopgap type of quarterback. Grbac seemed to be a good choice at the time.

    I do agree with you that he sometimes played not to lose; but, by most accounts, Billick had been a successful coach and for many of the reasons you posted. Coaches have many responsibilities beyond game-day decisions. And I would argue that those responsibilities are more important. Coaches need to be able to know how to react to their players. Some need to be handled with a firm fist, while others need to be coddled. Successful coaches IMHO also need to find a way to be upfront with players and other coaches in a way that won't piss them off. To me, that was the most difficult, because many do not like to be told the truth - or as Jack Nicholson would say. "They can't handle the truth!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bud View Post
    . I was going to yesterday, but I resisted the urge. First, let's set the record straight. Billick was NOT close to getting any job. In fact, he hasn't even scored a single interview yet. Recall, some here insisted he would be the hottest thing on the market with the option of picking his next job. Funny, NFL.COM did an article yesterday listing potential names we'll hear over the next few weeks. Of course, there's names like Cowher and Gruden along with the hot coordinators. Not surprisingly, Brian Billick's name doesn't appear anywhere. Rather, he was relegated to rating the jobs for a separate article.

    We can revisit Billick's flaws, but let's understand something; Billick isn't held in the same high regard by NFL owners that some in this town bestow upon him.
    Game. Set. Match.

    (THIS, BUD, is for you!!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by bud View Post
    . I was going to yesterday, but I resisted the urge. First, let's set the record straight. Billick was NOT close to getting any job. In fact, he hasn't even scored a single interview yet. Recall, some here insisted he would be the hottest thing on the market with the option of picking his next job. Funny, NFL.COM did an article yesterday listing potential names we'll hear over the next few weeks. Of course, there's names like Cowher and Gruden along with the hot coordinators. Not surprisingly, Brian Billick's name doesn't appear anywhere. Rather, he was relegated to rating the jobs for a separate article.

    We can revisit Billick's flaws, but let's understand something; Billick isn't held in the same high regard by NFL owners that some in this town bestow upon him.
    I agree with you. His time has passed. But, even with his flaws, he was the right coach for Baltimore.

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    Some of Billick's legacy--

    1) inevitable injuries are an accepted alibi for losing
    2) practice is overrated---players don't need to be burdened by formal practice times
    3) players will police themselves with penalties
    4) borderline players like Bart Scott can talk like they have multiple rings
    5) no matter how much certain guys struggle, it's beneath them to lose any playing time
    6) Too smart to run against the 6th worst run defense in NFL history in 2006 playoffs
    7) Only head coach to ever lose to Cam Cameron
    8) Losing record against Romeo Crennel

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    you really think romeo crennel, norv turner, chan gailey, etc. deserves another chance before bb? .......

    bb will never coach in the nfl again but I have a hard time believing he wouldn't do a better job than a lot of the folks that keep getting these jobs .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Terp View Post
    you really think romeo crennel, norv turner, chan gailey, etc. deserves another chance before bb? .......

    bb will never coach in the nfl again but I have a hard time believing he wouldn't do a better job than a lot of the folks that keep getting these jobs .......
    I'm not sure what your point is comparing BB to the rest of those losers. They're ALL losers. So what's your point? Pitting one loser against another group of losers? Seems totally pointless to me.

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