Billick back to Head Coach?

[OriginalColtsFan]

The Billick firing turned out better than it could have been. The Ravens took a chance and hired a special teams coach with no head coaching experience and hit the jackpot with Harbaugh.

Let's look at another coach you mentioned: Marty Schottenheimer

He was fired after a 15-1 season because of the notion that his teams never got to the next step. The Chargers replaced him with a great offensive coordinator. My questions to you are, "Have the Chargers been a better team or a worse team since his departure? Have they reached the Super Bowl, you know, the thing that Schottenheimer couldn't do?" The answer to that is a resounding no.

Choosing the wrong replacement has nothing to do with getting rid of the wrong head coach. That's where people consistently mistake causality with co-relationship. There's a relationship between the two events, be not a causal one. They are separate. You need to fulfill BOTH sides of the equation in order to achieve success. Doing only half, then trying to "prove" causality is ludicrous. And false. Anyone hiring Norv Turner as anything OTHER than an OC, especially considering his documented history, deserves whatever they get. (Plus, the dysfunctional GM had a lot to do with the Charger's troubles as well. That's why BOTH of them got canned.)

The same with Cam Cameron. If that clown EVER gets another job in the NFL in ANY capacity that team deserves whatever they get. And it's going to be more of the same because Cameron has never been able to get past his own limitations (including his over-inflated time with SD, where all he really did was a two trick pony act with LT and Gates), and he never will. It's the same with Turner as a HC.

[SugarRay52]

Choosing the wrong replacement has nothing to do with getting rid of the wrong head coach. That's where people consistently mistake causality with co-relationship. There's a relationship between the two events, be not a causal one. They are separate. You need to fulfill BOTH sides of the equation in order to achieve success. Doing only half, then trying to "prove" causality is ludicrous. And false. Anyone hiring Norv Turner as anything OTHER than an OC, especially considering his documented history, deserves whatever they get. (Plus, the dysfunctional GM had a lot to do with the Charger's troubles as well. That's why BOTH of them got canned.)

The same with Cam Cameron. If that clown EVER gets another job in the NFL in ANY capacity that team deserves whatever they get. And it's going to be more of the same because Cameron has never been able to get past his own limitations (including his over-inflated time with SD, where all he really did was a two trick pony act with LT and Gates), and he never will. It's the same with Turner as a HC.

Speaking of Cameron I tweeted Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune last week and he told me that he wasn't surprised the Ravens fired Cameron, he was never Cameron fan despite his success as OC in San Diego. A friend of mine who lives in New York and is a Giants and Jets fan (LOL) told me he heard the Jets are considering hiring Cameron as OC, it wouldn't shock me since Rex practically drooled all over Cameron back in 2008. The circus will continue to be entertaining, Rex should have been fired.


Happy New Year by the way

[Saticon3]

This could be one reason. I'd be surprised if anyone even interviews him, but you don't just get lucky and win the Super Bowl. Billick deserves credit for getting the Ravens there and winning it all.

I actually like Billick and thought he was the perfect coach for the Ravens at the time. I also thought it was time for him to go when he left.

But, I don't think he showed anything over his tenure here that would make an owner want to bring him in as HC, mainly because he never developed a credible offense and his reputation with QB's speaks for itself.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Speaking of Cameron I tweeted Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune last week and he told me that he wasn't surprised the Ravens fired Cameron, he was never Cameron fan despite his success as OC in San Diego. A friend of mine who lives in New York and is a Giants and Jets fan (LOL) told me he heard the Jets are considering hiring Cameron as OC, it wouldn't shock me since Rex practically drooled all over Cameron back in 2008. The circus will continue to be entertaining, Rex should have been fired.


Happy New Year by the way

OMG...the NY Jet circus continues.

Happy New Year to Sugar and your family!!

[Fang]

Some of Billick's legacy--

1) inevitable injuries are an accepted alibi for losing
2) practice is overrated---players don't need to be burdened by formal practice times
3) players will police themselves with penalties
4) borderline players like Bart Scott can talk like they have multiple rings
5) no matter how much certain guys struggle, it's beneath them to lose any playing time
6) Too smart to run against the 6th worst run defense in NFL history in 2006 playoffs
7) Only head coach to ever lose to Cam Cameron
8) Losing record against Romeo Crennel

9) Only headcoach in Baltimore to win a Superbowl. I hope John Harbaugh joins him soon.

I think Billick would be a great fit in Dallas.

[Eastside Terp]

9) Only headcoach in Baltimore to win a Superbowl. I hope John Harbaugh joins him soon.

I think Billick would be a great fit in Dallas.

I would revise that to read ........

9) kept team together when star player was arrested for murder to become first coach to win superbowl in Baltimore in 40 years .......

[jessup270]

Sports pages say Billick captains a nice yacht, lives in a waterfront home on the Eastern Shore, plus is still collecting from the Ravens.

Why would he want to change his life to be the coach of a losing team, in a city that does not offer what he enjoys in life.

I think its says a lot about a community when former players and coaches stay in the area, after they are no longer associated with a team.

[West Chester Raven]

As a former coach (certainly not anywhere near the NFL level ), I will tell you there is no such thing as winning a championship by being lucky or riding the coattails of players. That may be true in regular season sometimes when teams play inferior opponents, but in the playoffs, etc., that would be exposed.

Throughout the years I have seen teams with great players that never really lived up to their potential. I also have seen some mediocre teams (personnel-wise) rise for the occasion and win the big game. Being a successful coach takes a lot of work and people who have never done it mostly do not realize all the nuances of coaching.

Billick may have been at the right place at the right time, but don't understate his coaching ability. He did a wonderful job in the Super Bowl season and overall, he did well throughout the years in Baltimore. I know he wasn't perfect, but he was a damn good coach. I do wonder if he would want to coach anymore though. He seems to be doing well at Fox.

Brian was the right hire at the right time. In the wake of Ted Marchibroda (whom I have have a soft spot for) he was a breath of fresh air and bravado. I recall the excitement in town when we hired him. It was big.

I have never coached. I'll defer to you on that. We just never came close to having the type of offense his hiring promised. Back in those days, it was Matt Cavanaugh playing the role of Cam Cameron. Then he hired Jim Fassel but it didn't do any good. So, yeah he may have been a good administrator but it was the D that paved the way. And he never had a defensive background.

Either way, he found success here. But it is curious that he hasn't drawn any real interest with all the vacancies that have popped up since he left.

Peace.

[West Chester Raven]

Sports pages say Billick captains a nice yacht, lives in a waterfront home on the Eastern Shore, plus is still collecting from the Ravens.

Why would he want to change his life to be the coach of a losing team, in a city that does not offer what he enjoys in life.

I think its says a lot about a community when former players and coaches stay in the area, after they are no longer associated with a team.

True that. Maryland rocks.

[NCBirdfan]

Brian was the right hire at the right time. In the wake of Ted Marchibroda (whom I have have a soft spot for) he was a breath of fresh air and bravado. I recall the excitement in town when we hired him. It was big.

I have never coached. I'll defer to you on that. We just never came close to having the type of offense his hiring promised. Back in those days, it was Matt Cavanaugh playing the role of Cam Cameron. Then he hired Jim Fassel but it didn't do any good. So, yeah he may have been a good administrator but it was the D that paved the way. And he never had a defensive background.

Either way, he found success here. But it is curious that he hasn't drawn any real interest with all the vacancies that have popped up since he left.

Peace.

I disagree with nothing you posted. Billick had some major issues and underwhelmed as an offensive guru. However, the team was built on the draft that had a huge emphasis on defense. He had arguably the worst offensive units the Ravens ever had. With the exception of some really good running backs during his coaching years, Billick lost faith in his offensive players and he really never developed that marque quarterback that we fans were hoping for. He put all his effort into Kyle Boller and we all know how that turned out.

My point though is that he was a great coach for Baltimore at the time when Baltimore needed greatness. Even though things didn't go as the script dictated, the Ravens went from a mediocre team to a semi-consistent contender. And it wasn't luck. I know of no championship team that won on pure luck. Billick coached a team through adversity that year.

In a sense, Harbaugh has taken it to a new level with the five straight playoff seasons, but he still doesn't have that Lombardi. Time will tell if he becomes a great coach. His issues still haunt him, but a win in the Super Bowl could change all that.

[NCBirdfan]

Sports pages say Billick captains a nice yacht, lives in a waterfront home on the Eastern Shore, plus is still collecting from the Ravens.

Why would he want to change his life to be the coach of a losing team, in a city that does not offer what he enjoys in life.

I think its says a lot about a community when former players and coaches stay in the area, after they are no longer associated with a team.

If I were Billick and if he is happy where he is, I don't see any reason for him to go back to coaching. Coaching is a very demanding occupation. While many players party and have good times in between games, coaches do not have that luxury. He has a family too and you only get to do that once.

[Saticon3]

I disagree with nothing you posted. Billick had some major issues and underwhelmed as an offensive guru. However, the team was built on the draft that had a huge emphasis on defense. He had arguably the worst offensive units the Ravens ever had. With the exception of some really good running backs during his coaching years, Billick lost faith in his offensive players and he really never developed that marque quarterback that we fans were hoping for. He put all his effort into Kyle Boller and we all know how that turned out.

My point though is that he was a great coach for Baltimore at the time when Baltimore needed greatness. Even though things didn't go as the script dictated, the Ravens went from a mediocre team to a semi-consistent contender. And it wasn't luck. I know of no championship team that won on pure luck. Billick coached a team through adversity that year.

In a sense, Harbaugh has taken it to a new level with the five straight playoff seasons, but he still doesn't have that Lombardi. Time will tell if he becomes a great coach. His issues still haunt him, but a win in the Super Bowl could change all that.

I agree with all that, but still, don't see how any other team would really want him as HC now.

[CajunRaven]

Sports pages say Billick captains a nice yacht, lives in a waterfront home on the Eastern Shore, plus is still collecting from the Ravens.

Why would he want to change his life to be the coach of a losing team, in a city that does not offer what he enjoys in life.

I think its says a lot about a community when former players and coaches stay in the area, after they are no longer associated with a team.

Billick has it very nice on the shore. He has a nice gig doing games and spots for the NFL network.

I strongly doubt he has any interest in going through that grind again.

I'd also bet there were a few very influential players who had a lot to do with his firing. He'd just been signed to a nice contract, so something pretty stark had to happen to bring about his release. My guess is Steve got word from inside the locker room that Billick lost control of the team.

[tman1024]

As a Bills Fan, I would rather not have Billick. Hoping for Chip Kelly(no way its happening) or Doug Marrone.

[baltimoreron]

He keeps saying that the league is going 'younger and cheaper' and that he is neither. If the right situation presented itself, I'm sure he would consider it. I sure belive he has earned the right to be a HC again.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Cards signed Andy Reid, who is neither young, nor cheap.

[johnpolitics]

Cards signed Andy Reid, who is neither young, nor cheap.

If true Vick won't be far behind.

[OriginalColtsFan]

If true Vick won't be far behind.

If true, Cards will continue to suck.

[bud]

I think Billick would be a great fit in Dallas.

Dallas doesn't need a coach that lets the players police their own penalties. They are out of control already. Besides, Dallas seemingly wants to develop new players. That doesn't happen in one's private gym.

Billick served his purpose in Baltimore. Something happened after the Super Bowl though. He went from banning the "p word" to allowing unaccomplished nothings like Bart Scott walk around and run his mouth like a 7 time pro-bowler.