The issue of slavery in the US was somewhat unique. Slavery goes back to the beginning of recorded history. What was peculiar to US slavery post Revolution was the contention the country put forth that "all men are created equal" and yet allowed slavery. The inference was clear: slaves, and spec blacks were not fully "men" or human.
In other times and culture slavery was a function of economic conditions or the spoils of war. Meaning you were a slave due to circumstances not some inherent inferiority. May sound like a small difference bit in fact was huge.
He certainly had the profile of modern day Sudanese or Ethiopians
While most Americans would probably identify East Africans as Black, I'm sure they view themselves as distinct from West Africans and Central Africans. I don't think modern, Western definitions of race should apply when referring to people in that region of the world.
Last edited by soulflower; 01-02-2013 at 02:31 AM.
The DNA of the ancient Egyptians is about the same as the DNA of the modern Egyptians and the civilization grew up indigenously in north east Africa. There was a mix of Nubians from the upper Nile Valley and the people of the lower Nile Valley and there was contact, and I imagine, some interbreeding with the people from the Levant.
Why? Since we're talking slavery and the ebil white debil, THAT'S why I brought it up. To say things weren't built with slave labor is ridicules. As to the question of what were they? Seems there is no definite answer, some say the DNA is all spoiled. some say it isn't.
Sceptics, however, doubt that there was sufficient DNA left in Tutankhamun for the result to be real.
This one shows a completely mixed message
Upper Egypt is ~30% Black by DNA. But even upper Egyptians are much closer to the Near East than to Africans. Modern Egyptians are ~25% Black by DNA, but studies on ancient Egyptians show them to much less Black, possibly at ~9%. Most of the Egyptian Black DNA seems to have come in via the Arab conquest and the slave trade.
Ancient Egyptian hair is like modern Egyptian hair, from straight to curly with a small minority having kinky hair. Ancient Egyptians look just like modern Egyptian on the following variables: hair, teeth and skulls.
Now Mud why did I ask? Inquiring minds want to know, that's why.
For instance, Dusk to Dawn was an absolute great thriller for the first hour till it reduced itself to absurdity, vampires, and Salma Hayek's tits (not that I'm complaining about the last one).
The opening scene of "Inglorious Basterds" was another example of fine drama.
But Tarantino isn't interested, unfortunately imo because he's more than capable of it, in producing nuanced drama. He wants to produce spectacle.
If you notice, his last two films are very similar: Movies in which gratuitous violence can be celebrated w no moral reservations by the audience, b/c Tarantino has picked the two least empathetic characters in American culture: Nazis and slave owners.
There are gradations to things. I don't disagree that the slaves had no conscious awareness that they were in an unusual state of servitude historically speaking. But that doesn't change the fact that they were.
Fact: Africa is the most genetically diverse continent in the world. meaning, there's more genetic diversity between Africans than between people from different continents.
WaPo: Study Finds Africans More Genetically Diverse Than Other Populations
Africans are more genetically diverse than the inhabitants of the rest of the world combined, according to a sweeping study that carried researchers into remote regions to sample the bloodlines of more than 100 distinct populations.
The report, published yesterday in the journal Science Express, suggests that, because of historical migrations and genetic mixing across the continent, it will be hard for African Americans to trace their ancestry in fine detail. African American genealogies are increasingly popular and commercialized, but the authors of the new study cast doubt on how precise such searches can be, given the complexity of the genetic makeup of Africans.
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