Republican on Republican violence

[soulflower]

Obviously, I think it's the republicans fault. How hard should it have been to find a competent candidate to beat Reid in 2010? But those knuckleheads managed to toss away another seat.

I'm torn in a way. Christie has a right to complain giving the comparison to NOLA. OTOH, from what everyone said, the feds fubared Katrina. So maybe Semi has a point, let the states raise the funds vai bonds and taxes.

And the republicans have a point, find the damn money elsewhere in the budget to cover the cost. The GSA will just have to throw a few less parties this year.

I love how the republicans are thrifty now that a Dem is in the WH. They had no problem voting for the funds after Katrina

[SemiAuto]

If they can waste taxpayer money on wars and oil subsidies, they should be able to spend it on stuff that helps NY and NJ rebuild after hurricane Sandy. How anyone in the Northeast votes republican after this is beyond my understanding...

And the people outside of NY and NJ, how should they be voting?

[llubon]

Good ole House of Representatives. Barren and incompetent leardership comes to mind.

[CajunRaven]

If they can waste taxpayer money on wars and oil subsidies, they should be able to spend it on stuff that helps NY and NJ rebuild after hurricane Sandy. How anyone in the Northeast votes republican after this is beyond my understanding...

Actually, take the oil subsidy money and use it to help NJ and NY. And, take all the crap out of the cliff bill that just passed and use that, including the green energy subsidies and racetrack credits.

What a flocking disaster this bill is. Just once, once mind you, do you think they could pass a bill that only addresses the immediate issue without loading all kinds of crap on it. And we wonder why we have a spending problem. Jesus H., how can anyone be partisan one way or the other anymore. The whole lot of them deserves condemnation. Everyone last one. This is a sin. We deserve what we get and it's coming. This problem will fix itself if they don't.

[soulflower]

And the people outside of NY and NJ, how should they be voting?

You're right. I don't know how anyone can vote republican

[CajunRaven]

I love how the republicans are thrifty now that a Dem is in the WH. They had no problem voting for the funds after Katrina

Yeah and? And how did the dems behave when the shoe was on the other foot.

You know, until enough people get fed up with the whole lot and see them for one big gang of thieves, they'll just laugh at us as they continue to screw us.

[SemiAuto]

I love how the republicans are thrifty now that a Dem is in the WH. They had no problem voting for the funds after Katrina

Not according to this guy.

[SemiAuto]

You're right. I don't know how anyone can vote republican

I suppose that is half the fight.

[soulflower]

Actually, take the oil subsidy money and use it to help NJ and NY. And, take all the crap out of the cliff bill that just passed and use that, including the green energy subsidies and racetrack credits.

What a flocking disaster this bill is. Just once, once mind you, do you think they could pass a bill that only addresses the immediate issue without loading all kinds of crap on it. And we wonder why we have a spending problem. Jesus H., how can anyone be partisan one way or the other anymore. The whole lot of them deserves condemnation. Everyone last one. This is a sin. We deserve what we get and it's coming. This problem will fix itself if they don't.

Just have the House vote on a Pork-free version of the bill. What's so difficult about that?

[CajunRaven]

Ouch! That must have been around the same time he said Bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for running a $400B deficit.

[soulflower]

Yeah and? And how did the dems behave when the shoe was on the other foot.

They bent over and gave Bush most of what he wanted like Dems tend to do when they're in the minority. The level of obstruction from House republicans is unprecedented.

[SemiAuto]

Just have the House vote on a Pork-free version of the bill. What's so difficult about that?

Err.... the senate?

[CajunRaven]

Just have the House vote on a Pork-free version of the bill. What's so difficult about that?

You tell me, why was it the tax bill wasn't pork free? Why can't the money for Sandy be offset by other spending?

[Balmerboh]

Obviously, I think it's the republicans fault. How hard should it have been to find a competent candidate to beat Reid in 2010? But those knuckleheads managed to toss away another seat.

I'm torn in a way. Christie has a right to complain giving the comparison to NOLA. OTOH, from what everyone said, the feds fubared Katrina. So maybe Semi has a point, let the states raise the funds vai bonds and taxes.

And the republicans have a point, find the damn money elsewhere in the budget to cover the cost. The GSA will just have to throw a few less parties this year.

I don't have a link, but I remember some fed officials (maybe from Army Corps of Engineers or EPA) in some Frontline-type program complaining that states, especially NY and NJ, have been warned consistently for years to take steps (construct levies, etc.) to avoid Katrina-like floods. He said that Bloomberg has flatly refused to delegate city funds, or push for state funds to protect NYC. Apparently, Corzine and Christie said whatevs as well.

You know why? Because they KNOW the federal government will bail them out with such a disaster that garners such national attention. That was the lesson of Katrina. Sit back and let disasters happen. I'm not commenting on whether that's a good idea or not from a state's perspective, but the fact is, it's true that states have zero incentive to spend millions or billions to protect themselves.

Look, of COURSE Christie and King have to start raising heck. If they didn't, it would be political suicide.

[CajunRaven]

They bent over and gave Bush most of what he wanted like Dems tend to do when they're in the minority. The level of obstruction from House republicans is unprecedented.

Yeah, that must be it.

[SemiAuto]

They bent over and gave Bush most of what he wanted like Dems tend to do when they're in the minority. The level of obstruction from House republicans is unprecedented.

Considering the status quo is unsustainable then shouldn't someone obstruct enabling the status quo?

Nobody wants to put a leash on government spending.

[soulflower]

You tell me, why was it the tax bill wasn't pork free? Why can't the money for Sandy be offset by other spending?

Why can't these guys show up for work and do their jobs? Your guess is as good as mine...

[CajunRaven]

I don't have a link, but I remember some fed officials (maybe from Army Corps of Engineers or EPA) in some Frontline-type program complaining that states, especially NY and NJ, have been warned consistently for years to take steps (construct levies, etc.) to avoid Katrina-like floods. He said that Bloomberg has flatly refused to delegate city funds, or push for state funds to protect NYC. Apparently, Corzine and Christie said whatevs as well.

You know why? Because they KNOW the federal government will bail them out with such a disaster that garners such national attention. That was the lesson of Katrina. Sit back and let disasters happen. I'm not commenting on whether that's a good idea or not from a state's perspective, but the fact is, it's true that states have zero incentive to spend millions or billions to protect themselves.

Look, of COURSE Christie and King have to start raising heck. If they didn't, it would be political suicide.

Of course, and the citizens of those states have a right as well I guess. After all, it was their borrowed money that went to Katrina and the Mid-West floods etc... - Now it's their turn.

And everyone will rebuild in the same spot.

[Brohan]

I love how the republicans are thrifty now that a Dem is in the WH. They had no problem voting for the funds after Katrina

I think the republicans should let Obama tax and spend as much as he wants. He will run the country into the ground.

Seeing how he is with other peoples money makes me wonder how he was around a pile of blow when he was a coke head. He must have been a maniac.

[Grindelwald]

The GOP is going to kick Christie out of the party for being too nonpartisan if he's not careful.

I think the republicans should let Obama tax and spend as much as he wants. He will run the country into the ground.

Seeing how he is with other peoples money makes me wonder how he was around a pile of blow when he was a coke head. He must have been a maniac.

This just proves that the GOP supporters do not put country first.