New Year in Baltimore, same old violence continues...

[Jeebus]

Two men were shot on New Year's Day in Baltimore in the city's first reported gun violence of 2013, police said.

A 31-year-old man was shot multiple times in the limbs about 4 p.m. Tuesday near the 1100 block of Druid Hill Avenue in the Upton neighborhood, according to police. Responding to that location, police found the victim lying wounded on the sidewalk at the intersection of Division and Dolphin Streets. Police learned he had been shot by a man wearing a black ski mask before the victim ran to the intersection of Division and Dolphin streets.

A second victim was found in the 1300 block of Caroline Street in Oliver about 9 p.m. with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, police said. Oliver was among the city's most violent neighborhoods in 2012, with at least seven shootings, according to Baltimore Sun crime data.

Police said a "hooded figure" was described running from a nearby alley carrying a rifle, Sgt. Anthony Smith said. Police have no suspects.

If it was so violent in 2012, and is already seeing more violence in 2013, why aren't the police doing more to protect the residents? Why is this area so violent?

[bmore_ken]

Two men were shot on New Year's Day in Baltimore in the city's first reported gun violence of 2013, police said.



If it was so violent in 2012, and is already seeing more violence in 2013, why aren't the police doing more to protect the residents? Why is this area so violent?

What are police supposed to do about thugs shooting thugs?

[Lawman 27]

If it was so violent in 2012, and is already seeing more violence in 2013, why aren't the police doing more to protect the residents? Why is this area so violent?

I've said so many times that its become routine (and I think most people think I have become jaded and biased)...

The Police Officers on the street have too much to fear:

--> Low quality Officers that the Mayor and City Council force on them*.
--> Commanders who will ruin an Officer's career for their own benefit.
--> A media who seems to enjoy biasing news stories against the Officers**.
--> Prosecutors who are more interested in charging Officers.
--> Citizens who can't wait to sue the Officers for any BS reason.


* I am NOT referring to race, creed, gender, etc. I am referring to the department's desire to hire unqualified applicants for some reason.

**Speaking of which, I noticed WJZ reported on a dog shooting today. MOST of the report dealt with the evil Officers shooting a defenseless dog. Only the last few seconds dealt with the reason the Officer may have fired on the animal.

[Lawman 27]

What are police supposed to do about thugs shooting thugs?

During Mayor Schmoke's reign, we were told that we were NOT to grab people who fired off guns on New Years. When Commissioner Norris came to town we were told to CATCH the SOB's that shot up the streets.

The result was a reduction in crime as the bad guys knew we were serious about fighting crime.

When the Police are allowed to make a difference (with respect to the Constitution) we can make a difference.

[bmore_ken]

You didn't answer my question

[StraightShooter]

What are police supposed to do about thugs shooting thugs?

To keep it real - not too much, inless every "thug" was assigned a personal police officer 24-7 to make sure no-one else was victimized.

Now we do several hundred thousand citizens with clear vision that are out there very day. If only there was some way to get them to help!?

[jessup270]

I've said so many times that its become routine (and I think most people think I have become jaded and biased)...

The Police Officers on the street have too much to fear:

--> Low quality Officers that the Mayor and City Council force on them*.
--> Commanders who will ruin an Officer's career for their own benefit.
--> A media who seems to enjoy biasing news stories against the Officers**.
--> Prosecutors who are more interested in charging Officers.
--> Citizens who can't wait to sue the Officers for any BS reason.


* I am NOT referring to race, creed, gender, etc. I am referring to the department's desire to hire unqualified applicants for some reason.

**Speaking of which, I noticed WJZ reported on a dog shooting today. MOST of the report dealt with the evil Officers shooting a defenseless dog. Only the last few seconds dealt with the reason the Officer may have fired on the animal.

No doubt you are in a tough situation.

The residents of Baltimore get the type of police protection they deserve.

Baltimore Police are abused by city residents day in and day out. When police are taking down a bad guy, residents often get out their cell phone camera and taunt the police while doing their jobs.

Why should the Baltimore Police really care about city residents, when most city residents don't call about the police?

[bmore_ken]

During Mayor Schmoke's reign, we were told that we were NOT to grab people who fired off guns on New Years. When Commissioner Norris came to town we were told to CATCH the SOB's that shot up the streets.

The result was a reduction in crime as the bad guys knew we were serious about fighting crime.

When the Police are allowed to make a difference (with respect to the Constitution) we can make a difference.

Baltimore had it's lowest murder rate since the 70's last year, Norris was on the radio

[Jeebus]

Baltimore had it's lowest murder rate since the 70's last year...

My guess (not having seen the sales figures for last year) is that more firearms were sold in and around Baltimore last year, and the number of total guns increased during that time as well.

How can more guns = less murders?

[bmore_ken]

My guess (not having seen the sales figures for last year) is that more firearms were sold in and around Baltimore last year, and the number of total guns increased during that time as well.

How can more guns = less murders?

Yawnnnnnnnnnn. I'm pretty sure like this year most of the murders were criminal on criminal which mean their guns were probably not bought legally. That dog still won't hunt

[Lawman 27]

What are police supposed to do about thugs shooting thugs?

You didn't answer my question

Morning Kenneth, always a pleasure...

First, define 'thug.'

An older gentleman was bringing his girlfriend some lunch one day when he was shot and killed near Reiterstown Rd and Cold Spring Lane. TECHNICALLY speaking, (considering his record) he was a thug, but at that moment he was just an average guy. (In fact, his record had been clear for several years, so I guess he was a 'recovering thug')?

Second, please remember that the average scumbag (or thug) shooting at another scumbag does not really know how to shoot. For that reason, he may fire six or more shots and only hit the target thug once. Those other shots are what are worrysome, as they could hit anyone.

Anyway, in answer to your question (and this is just my opinion):

When a person is SHOT by a bad guy it is a SHOOTING. DO NOT DOWNGRADE IT (It is not an 'injuried person').
When the Police do catch the bad guy, don't trash the Police. (The Officers have a hard enough job without the media trying to gain points with the public).
When the case goes to court, DON'T DROP MOST CHARGES just to look good to the public.

Just saying...

[musicmd]

No doubt you are in a tough situation.

The residents of Baltimore get the type of police protection they deserve.

Baltimore Police are abused by city residents day in and day out. When police are taking down a bad guy, residents often get out their cell phone camera and taunt the police while doing their jobs.

Why should the Baltimore Police really care about city residents, when most city residents don't call about the police?

Now, you speak for the residents of BC. Please give me example how the police are abused by city residents day in and day out. Everything you said is just BS. Lawman, just quoted the police are low grade. Lawman, maybe right. You don't have a clue.

[musicmd]

Morning Kenneth, always a pleasure...

First, define 'thug.'

An older gentleman was bringing his girlfriend some lunch one day when he was shot and killed near Reiterstown Rd and Cold Spring Lane. TECHNICALLY speaking, (considering his record) he was a thug, but at that moment he was just an average guy. (In fact, his record had been clear for several years, so I guess he was a 'recovering thug')?

Second, please remember that the average scumbag (or thug) shooting at another scumbag does not really know how to shoot. For that reason, he may fire six or more shots and only hit the target thug once. Those other shots are what are worrysome, as they could hit anyone.

Anyway, in answer to your question (and this is just my opinion):

When a person is SHOT by a bad guy it is a SHOOTING. DO NOT DOWNGRADE IT (It is not an 'injuried person').
When the Police do catch the bad guy, don't trash the Police. (The Officers have a hard enough job without the media trying to gain points with the public).
When the case goes to court, DON'T DROP MOST CHARGES just to look good to the public.

Just saying...

I agree with most of your post.

[musicmd]

To keep it real - not too much, inless every "thug" was assigned a personal police officer 24-7 to make sure no-one else was victimized.

Now we do several hundred thousand citizens with clear vision that are out there very day. If only there was some way to get them to help!?

Rid the city of drugs would be a start, really do you care.

[Marshan Man]

No doubt you are in a tough situation.

The residents of Baltimore get the type of police protection they deserve.

Baltimore Police are abused by city residents day in and day out. When police are taking down a bad guy, residents often get out their cell phone camera and taunt the police while doing their jobs.

Why should the Baltimore Police really care about city residents, when most city residents don't call about the police?

What an idiotic post.

[pepper]

Rid the city of drugs would be a start, really do you care.

Humans being Human, the demand requires lots of drugs. Legal or otherwise, it's Human Nature driving that demand and it will be supplied, one way or the other.

There is no way to rid the city, or anywhere else, so it's not a start, it's a non-starter. Rid the demand (to an extent) by stemming the flow of future predators and victims. But there will always be drug users, as there has been since Man first walked upright.

[bmore_ken]

Morning Kenneth, always a pleasure...

First, define 'thug.'

An older gentleman was bringing his girlfriend some lunch one day when he was shot and killed near Reiterstown Rd and Cold Spring Lane. TECHNICALLY speaking, (considering his record) he was a thug, but at that moment he was just an average guy. (In fact, his record had been clear for several years, so I guess he was a 'recovering thug')?

Second, please remember that the average scumbag (or thug) shooting at another scumbag does not really know how to shoot. For that reason, he may fire six or more shots and only hit the target thug once. Those other shots are what are worrysome, as they could hit anyone.

Anyway, in answer to your question (and this is just my opinion):

When a person is SHOT by a bad guy it is a SHOOTING. DO NOT DOWNGRADE IT (It is not an 'injuried person').
When the Police do catch the bad guy, don't trash the Police. (The Officers have a hard enough job without the media trying to gain points with the public).
When the case goes to court, DON'T DROP MOST CHARGES just to look good to the public.

Just saying...

Happy New Year's sir. You and I both know the majority of Baltimore murders are nothing like the case you cited. Let's keep it real. And while I don't disagree with what you just typed, it still doesn't answer the question of what police can do about one thug killing another? BTW, i thought the dropping charges thing was a Pat Jessamy thing? Wasn't Superman(Bernstein) supposed to fix that problem?

[musicmd]

Humans being Human, the demand requires lots of drugs. Legal or otherwise, it's Human Nature driving that demand and it will be supplied, one way or the other.

There is no way to rid the city, or anywhere else, so it's not a start, it's a non-starter. Rid the demand (to an extent) by stemming the flow of future predators and victims. But there will always be drug users, as there has been since Man first walked upright.

Make it legal is that a start? There is no way to rid the city of drugs, only in your mind.

[musicmd]

My guess (not having seen the sales figures for last year) is that more firearms were sold in and around Baltimore last year, and the number of total guns increased during that time as well.

How can more guns = less murders?

Learn to read.

[pepper]

Make it legal is that a star? There is no way to rid the city of drugs, only in your mind.

I honestly have no idea what this response means...

I thought I was clear that drugs will never go away, and that the only real way to lessen the impact is by reducing the number of poorly raised kids that may eventually become dealers or addicts. "lessen", not eliminate.

I personally think legalization would increase the number of drug users, just my opinion.