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Thread: Sporting News wastes no time calling Ray Lewis a murderer

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    Listen, you're the one who thinks cops just charge someone with the worst crime possible for their jollies. The Leos I know are better at their jobs.
    God, is everyone in your family as big a blowhard windbag as you? Irish right?

    If the redslurs lose to the only team that plays in Washington will crawl back under your rock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    I'd recommend not writing this if you mean something else. I didn't make up anything. I know exactly how investigations work. It's not rocket science.
    Obviously from your smarmy cracks, you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    God, is everyone in your family as big a blowhard windbag as you? Irish right?

    If the redslurs lose to the only team that plays in Washington will crawl back under your rock?
    I'm not the one who made up crap about the investigation and arrest but thanks for your usual non-contribution. Speaking of blowhards....

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    Said it a million times before... to anybody who watched the trial and read up on the daily updates at the time... it was bordering on comical that Lewis went to trial on murder charges.

    The laws of that area basically allowed for anybody involved in a fight that ended in the death of someone to be charged with the same crime. There WAS a fight, there WERE two deaths, and eventually they decided to treat Lewis as though he committed the crime.

    In review... the only person who ever stayed on public record to suggest Ray was an aggressor in the fight was a guy who the state let out of jail to testify. He was previously in jail for... fraud.

    One guy who initially implicated Ray in the immediate aftermath later changed his statement to absolve him of the charge. The prosecution sat on the amended statement, and got in trouble for that during the trial.

    The limo driver, who was supposed to damage Ray's image at trial, testified that Ray grabbed someone during the fight, raised a fist, but instead of striking anyone... yelled at the person he pulled away to "knock that s*** off!" Local news in Baltimore that evening even played a clip from the trial that day, labeled it as "damaging testimony to Ray's defense", but then cut it short before the key statement and made no mention of the ACTUAL context of his actions. That was probably one of the most despicable and dishonest pieces of journalism I've ever noted, and this is in a town where Mike Preston writes for the paper.

    Ray lied to investigators after the fact about 1) how often he associated with the other two suspects, and 2) their names.

    #2 wound up being quite possibly nothing more than an honest mistake. Maybe. He gave the police names which turned out to be aliases. They were also aliases that the other two suspects were KNOWN BY by many people who were considered friends / associates. So whether Ray ever REALLY knew their names could be questioned.

    #1 was pure stupid. He tried to play mostly dumb and hoped that they'd leave him alone / out of it. After he met with a lawyer, they informed him that he was out of his mind to think that it would end there... and they called the police back to make an amended statement. Something which the D.A. let a LOT of other people in the "witness pool" do by the way, without penalty. He knew that something bad had happened. His limo was all shot up. He was a MORON to think he could just try to stay tight-lipped and that he'd fade out of the light. But being an idiot out of touch with reality doesn't make one a murderer. Heck, if I was walking around with a group of friends, some folks attacked us and provoked a melee, and my friends wound up doing something (quite probably in self-defense) that could get them in trouble... maybe my first reaction would be to say as little as possible. Maybe not. Hopefully I won't ever be in that predicament.

    When they showed up a second time, Lewis expected to tell them more of the truth, and they instead immediately arrested him.

    All anybody outside of the few who followed the facts that came out before / during trial remembers is... "fight... stabbings... dead guys... Ray Lewis in jail..."

    Anybody that takes the time to learn the facts knows it was a joke it ever went that far with him.

    But most folks don't care to spend time on facts. I'd bet that 99% of folks who know he went on trial for "murder" have no clue that the two men who died in the incident started the whole thing with a bottle and an idea to rob Ray and his goofy "entourage". Or that the D.A. basically destroyed his own case against the other two by waiting so long to offer Lewis the deal, so his testimony was of virtually no value at that point to a jury who had watched the whole debacle live.

    The 5 second TV clips and lasting images from SportsCenter of Ray in an orange jumpsuit are all they'll ever know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peej7245 View Post
    Obviously from your smarmy cracks, you don't.
    The PD had to charge the highest profile person present, and most times they (or any PD) will go for the highest charge regardless of the ability to get a conviction - but often as a club to be used.
    Okay, Barney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    Okay, Barney.
    "Barny"?

    You are just looking more and more like a blithering idiot as well as a braggart.

    Putting you on ignore. No time for mindless trolls like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    Charging someone who is not guilty of a crime like murder is hardly a standard practice. I guess my family of cops and federal agents use more discretion before putting a person on trial for their lives.
    The hack of a DA was up for his re-election and looking to get on TV with a high profile case. It was the first case he tried in 4 year and it showed.

    He did a beyond terrible job trying the case. He couldn't have done a worse job if he tried. He should have never charged Lewis with murder. All he did was not get justice for the cough, cough 'victims'.

    Do the cops in your family drive drunk every weekend like every other cop?
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    Yes, all cops drive drunk right after they charge non-guilty people with the worst charge they can trump up as an investigative tool. Ha ha ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    The hack of a DA was up for his re-election and looking to get on TV with a high profile case. It was the first case he tried in 4 year and it showed.

    He did a beyond terrible job trying the case. He couldn't have done a worse job if he tried. He should have never charged Lewis with murder. All he did was not get justice for the cough, cough 'victims'.

    Do the cops in your family drive drunk every weekend like every other cop?
    OMG tell me it ain't so that Hail2BNG is a cop??? If he is that is a scary thought. However, it does sort of explain the unbridled arrogance and ability to treat everyone like he does on a site that doesn't support his favorite teams.Now it sort of all makes sense. Not all cops are arrogant types but more than the normal population, that is beyond any doubt.

    To me the worst criminal in the world is a dirty cop. I hope they all go to hell and get what they deserve. Not saying anyone is such, just making a general statement and a pet peeve of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    Yes, all cops drive drunk right after they charge non-guilty people with the worst charge they can trump up as an investigative tool. Ha ha ha ha
    Even a cornball brother like RG3 doesn't trust cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durango46 View Post
    ESPN wrote a piece on Ray also...After reading it I decided to check out what people were saying.
    The conversation that followed was so anti-Ray Lewis and filled with so much hatred for him I couldn't continue reading the posts..

    wow......




    http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations...etiring-season

    That’s because most people outside of Baltimore see him for what he really is, but you guys in Baltimore are so in love with your Sugar Ray that most of you probably didn’t even remember he was ever involved in anything like that; you are blinded by your fandom!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe cool View Post
    That’s because most people outside of Baltimore see him for what he really is, but you guys in Baltimore are so in love with your Sugar Ray that most of you probably didn’t even remember he was ever involved in anything like that; you are blinded by your fandom!!
    and you are blinded by you're hatred for anything BMORE
    Orioles playoffs
    Ravens always in the playoffs


    maybe you should learn the facts of the case before you show just how ignorant you really are.......

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    On the subject of the Atlanta-Fulton County District Attorney.....after their huge embarrassment at messing up Richard Jewell life....they sought to "save face" or make up for that boondoggle by trying to "get" the high profile athlete in a bar fight where two people were killed...because they could. Laws stated they could do that and Paul Howard the A-FCDA said as much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go! View Post
    OMG tell me it ain't so that Hail2BNG is a cop??? If he is that is a scary thought. However, it does sort of explain the unbridled arrogance and ability to treat everyone like he does on a site that doesn't support his favorite teams.Now it sort of all makes sense. Not all cops are arrogant types but more than the normal population, that is beyond any doubt.

    To me the worst criminal in the world is a dirty cop. I hope they all go to hell and get what they deserve. Not saying anyone is such, just making a general statement and a pet peeve of mine.
    You always describe yourself. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIL2BNG View Post
    You always describe yourself. Amazing.
    http://youtu.be/Cs4Gj7JsET4

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    Uh no, that's what he does. You disagree that he just described himself, outside of being a real cop.

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    No I just think this pissing match between you two is hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passarino View Post
    No I just think this pissing match between you two is hilarious
    I second that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by durango46 View Post
    and you are blinded by you're hatred for anything BMORE
    Orioles playoffs
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    maybe you should learn the facts of the case before you show just how ignorant you really are.......
    You are asking waaaay, waaaaay too much of a Yankee fan to do that. He fits right in with the DC/Yanky tool posting here. Only he's a soldier and Yanky Dave a cop. Scary thought both of them running around with weapons. Yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe cool View Post
    That’s because most people outside of Baltimore see him for what he really is, but you guys in Baltimore are so in love with your Sugar Ray that most of you probably didn’t even remember he was ever involved in anything like that; you are blinded by your fandom!!
    What he is: The greatest MLB to ever play the game. An inspirational leader on the team for 1.5 decades.

    Ray went through the legal process for his alleged transgressions. He ended up paying a price arguably commensurate with his poor judgement at the time.
    He is not a murderer. He is not a thug. He has given so much to this game and is loved by teammates that came and went since he's been here. He's been a rock. A constant. He will be missed.
    In the end, it doesn't really matter what jealous onlookers think. We've had the good fortune of having Ray on our team his entire career. It has been a real pleasure.
    Best of luck to Ray in his post-football life. he has given so much to this team and to us as fans.

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