Indiana state senator files bill to allow schools to require the Lord's Prayer

[songfourone]

I work in a public school and pray all the time. Of course it is done silently.

I hope you clock out and are not praying on the tax payers time.

[Grindelwald]

At least he's trying.

It is a clear attack on the 1st Amendment...

[Grindelwald]

I work in a public school and pray all the time. Of course it is done silently.

You have every right to do so. But that is completely different from the topic.

[Mom49of4]

You may pray anywhere, some school have lunch time prayer groups. Prayer heals the soul.

I agree.

[Mom49of4]

You have every right to do so. But that is completely different from the topic.

Not really.

[Grindelwald]

Not really.

The school giving people a moment of silence to pray if they desire is perfectly acceptable, nobody is telling you who to pray to, nobody is forcing you to pray, you don't have to do anything if you don't want. That protects your First Amendment rights. If the school is forcing kids to recite the Lord's prayer, even if they may be athiest, Jewish, or any other religion, how is their First Amendment right of "Freedom of Religion" being protected?

I know this will get ignored.

[Mom49of4]

The county I work in gave a moment of silence after Sandy Hook.

[Grindelwald]

The county I work in gave a moment of silence after Sandy Hook.

Do you ever stop deflecting?

[Mom49of4]

I suspect many prayed during that time.

[slapshot]

The county I work in gave a moment of silence after Sandy Hook.

Please tell me you know the difference between an organized prayer session, and a "moment of silence"?

[songfourone]

Please tell me you know the difference between an organized prayer session, and a "moment of silence"?

You beat me to it

[Grindelwald]

I suspect many prayed during that time.

Yes, of course many prayed during that time. Can you answer my question now? How is having a required prayer not an attack on the First Amendment?

[Bmoreteacher]

To require students to say a specific prayer unless they opt out is a violation of the 1st Amendment. Schools are not churches. If kids or teachers want to say the Our Father on their own time, they're more than welcome to. It amazes me how Republicans who pretend to favor small government are suddenly in favor of the government forcing schools to do something that belongs in a church. How hypocritical! If a senator wanted schools to say a prayer from the Koran, these same people would be up in arms!

[SalisburySage]

Catholic (without doxology)
and 1928 Anglican BCP (with doxology)
Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
[The 1928 BCP adds:
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.]
Amen.

So what's wrong with that, sounds pretty much like every religion would agree except of course atheists.

We should ask the chinese to pray the this version of the prayer
prayer as it occurs in Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV)

"Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil."

[music_man]

This is how congress opened their session yesterday.

Eternal God, we give you thanks for giving us another day; a new year.

The political struggles of the past year have revealed the divisions that exist in our nation. There are many American citizens who are angry, frustrated, and anxious for the future.

This day is a day of history. Send your Spirit upon the Members of the Peoples’ House. May an imperfect compromise, when viewed from the perspective of our differences, not be undermined by a desire for political victory. This is difficult for all; give each Member the grace of Courage to forge a constructive solution for the good of the nation and all Americans.
Help us to trust that no matter what, You will not abandon us

May all that is done this day be for Your greater honor and glory.
AMEN

And Amen

Prayer heals the soul.

AMEN.

I believe if we all got a little closer to whatever God it is you believe in, this world be so much better of a place.

[Jeebus]

Indiana state senator files bill to allow schools to require the Lord's Prayer

I hope to see the Pastafarians weighing in on this subject very soon.

Perhaps something similar to their letter to the Kansas School Board.

[Baltimatt]

I hope to see the Pastafarians weighing in on this subject very soon.

Perhaps something similar to their letter to the Kansas School Board.

Ramen!!

[octoburn]

Require prayer? Really? WWJD?

If one truly believes, then prayer need not be a public act for God to hear, nor does it need to be required or forced upon those who would choose to say them, because requiring someone to say something that doesn't come from the heart means that anything uttered through coercion is nothing more than meaningless gibberish.

[Wizard777]

Rather than requiring kids to opt out, maybe all of the kids that desire or need this sort of thing should get it out of their systems by opting in to doing it at home before school starts. Doesn't really matter though. I doubt this thing will go anywhere. The "require" part is the non-starter.

This is why Christians get so freaked out by Muslims. They think the Muslims will do to them what they do to others. That's try to force them to live their religion. I wish I could hypnotize those people to hear Sharia Law everytime someone says, Lord's Prayer. Then you wouldn't have to worry about this bill because they would be too busy trying hang each other as terrorists to pass it.

[Fang]

Many consider it unconstitutional.



Text of the bill.

If the Government can force us to buy health insurance and then penalize us if we don't, then why not this? Kids can opt out if they want, but I sure as heck can't opt out of buying health insurance.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I would vote on this if I had a vote. I would probably vote NO. But given most of the bulls*** that comes out of DC these days this is rather mild. Definately not worthy of the responses it got on this thread.