Seahawks vs. Redskins

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

As a listener of that station, and it really is a great station for football talk, you should know that most of those people you mentioned have held the highest respect for the talent, leadership, and potential of RGIII.

Excuse me? I realize for whatever reason you dislike me but please show me where I ever said these folks didn't speak favorably of RGIII? If you could actually read and comprehend what I wrote without some bias towards me all I posted were I heard some votes are being for Russell Wilson. Prior to the Redskin/Seahawk game most of them seemed undecided between Griffin, Luck, Morris and Wilson. I NEVER said they were not impressed with Griffin. NEVER. So please quit posting this crap or I will call you out on it.

I love the way you also ignore how HAIL2BNG your favorite Redskin/Yankee fan troll here dissed all those Sirius experts but that is okay isn't it? Again, maybe you too should get a room. I am not going to bow down to anyone for being a Baltimore Raven/Oriole fan on this forum, unlike you do routinely.

[Rael]

Here's the thing, as I said WAY up-thread to both you and Hail. It is possible to REALLY like the potential of one of these guys without denigrating the potential of the other. Both you and Hail are engaging in putdowns of the your "opponent's" player. Maybe you two should "get a room". I like Wilson. He is extremely polished for a rookie QB and should have a great future. I like Griffin too. He is a very exciting player. Both you guys however, seem to think only one of them is allowed to be good and feel the need to tear the one down just to build the other up. It is the overall tone of stridency in this thread that I personally don't like.

I am not bowing down to anyone but the forum title does say "and other NFL related topics". Hail has the same rights (and responsibilities) here that you do. Stop being so parochial.

[HAIL2BNG]

The only way I have denigrated Wilson is to say he isn't as good as Griffin. I think he's done well doing what Seattle has asked him to do. I don't think it compares to Luck and Griffin who were tasked to carry their teams and did.

I certainly haven't resorted to calling him Vickjr or, even worse, stupid.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

The only way I have denigrated Wilson is to say he isn't as good as Griffin. I think he's done well doing what Seattle has asked him to do. I don't think it compares to Luck and Griffin who were tasked to carry their teams and did.

I certainly haven't resorted to calling him Vickjr or, even worse, stupid.

Good for you. I maintain Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson are both smarter than their Redskins counterparts in how they use the read option/pistol offense as a minor facet of their offensive attack. Shanahan is apparently so scared for his job he is willing to make his rookie a sacrificial lamb, and you see what it got him. Meanwhile Carroll and his rookie QB are advancing in the playoffs. Nuff said.

[weird-O]

We'll see if the adjustments stick when he is all healed up and ready to go next season.

this is a good point.

he's young, and youth often equals the feeling of invincibility. will he learn from this lesson? so far, it doesn't look like he has. he ran into the original injury during the season, then he continued to run after the injury. he may be sliding to avoid hits, but given what was discussed after the loss (that he never looked comfortable after running the ball early in the game) he continued to put too much of a demand on that knee.

[HAIL2BNG]

Actually, he ran completely different after he was injured. He simply was playing hurt. So yes, he did learn.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Actually, he ran completely different after he was injured. He simply was playing hurt. So yes, he did learn.

He had no choice but to run the way he did after he was hurt. Are you really that clueless???

BTW, I watched the entire Redskin/Seahawks game last nite on NFL Network Game Rewind.

[weird-O]

Actually, he ran completely different after he was injured. He simply was playing hurt. So yes, he did learn.

I didn't see most of the Skins game, because I was coming back from the Ravens game. so you may be right. but a gimpy QB on one good leg shouldn't try to maintain the running aspect of his game. the fact that he was still trying to run the ball, tells me that he didn't take his injury seriously enough.

look at the game against the Ravens. he could barely hop out onto the field after the hit, but he did anyway. that's poor judgement on his part, and Shanahan.

they got the win, but his continued approach to the game ended in a quick playoff exit and surgery.

it's just an opinion, but he shouldn't have been trying to run unless it was for very short 1st down yardage or a TD. from the highlights I saw, he was playing his usual game.

so I disagree with you, I don't think he learned yet.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I didn't see most of the Skins game, because I was coming back from the Ravens game. so you may be right. but a gimpy QB on one good leg shouldn't try to maintain the running aspect of his game. the fact that he was still trying to run the ball, tells me that he didn't take his injury seriously enough.

look at the game against the Ravens. he could barely hop out onto the field after the hit, but he did anyway. that's poor judgement on his part, and Shanahan.

they got the win, but his continued approach to the game ended in a quick playoff exit and surgery.

it's just an opinion, but he shouldn't have been trying to run unless it was for very short 1st down yardage or a TD. from the highlights I saw, he was playing his usual game.

so I disagree with you, I don't think he learned yet.

Apparently (even though I personally agree with you) you are unaware that it does no good whatsover to disagree with Hail2BNG on anything, ever, as he is always right about everything and never wrong. He said it himself here, and I have never seen him admit anything that he has been wrong about. He is the one person on this planet who is always correct about everything.

[weird-O]

I wanted to be sure I was remembering things correctly, so I went to the NFL site and watched the highlight reel.

not only did Griffin run often, but he didn't do anything to avoid taking hits. in the 1st Qtr, he took 2 good hits. on the first, he could have easily slipped out of play, but he decided to try and spin back into play and continue running. he took a shot on that one. it looked like the hit was on that bad leg. later he got racked pretty good again running the ball. thru the whole game, he continued to run. as the game went on, the results got worse and worse.

If Griffin learned from the injury an now avoids hits, he didn't show it in Sunday's game.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I wanted to be sure I was remembering things correctly, so I went to the NFL site and watched the highlight reel.

not only did Griffin run often, but he didn't do anything to avoid taking hits. in the 1st Qtr, he took 2 good hits. on the first, he could have easily slipped out of play, but he decided to try and spin back into play and continue running. he took a shot on that one. it looked like the hit was on that bad leg. later he got racked pretty good again running the ball. thru the whole game, he continued to run. as the game went on, the results got worse and worse.

If Griffin learned from the injury an now avoids hits, he didn't show it in Sunday's game.

Of course he didn't which is the main reason he is getting hurt so much in the first place. Of course know-it-all-know-nothing DC/Yanky boy thinks we are wrong and he, of course is always right. A genuine "legend in his own mind." He needs to gain a firm grasp of reality. He is about the only one on this planet watching football that thinks this way. Totally out there.

[HAIL2BNG]

I wanted to be sure I was remembering things correctly, so I went to the NFL site and watched the highlight reel.

not only did Griffin run often, but he didn't do anything to avoid taking hits. in the 1st Qtr, he took 2 good hits. on the first, he could have easily slipped out of play, but he decided to try and spin back into play and continue running. he took a shot on that one. it looked like the hit was on that bad leg. later he got racked pretty good again running the ball. thru the whole game, he continued to run. as the game went on, the results got worse and worse.

If Griffin learned from the injury an now avoids hits, he didn't show it in Sunday's game.

The highlight reel, huh? I see you and Hadley have something in common. You deduce a lot from a little.

[weird-O]

The highlight reel, huh? I see you and Hadley have something in common. You deduce a lot from a little.

I suppose Griffin didn't actually run the ball and get hit, because I didn't see the whole game.

I have some great news for you dave. in the highlight reel, the Skins won the game. isn't that exciting.

that's some solid logic you're using.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

The highlight reel, huh? I see you and Hadley have something in common. You deduce a lot from a little.

Yeah, like you watch every minute of every team's games? Most people have a life. But then, maybe you don't. You ever heard of NFL Network RED ZONE or REWIND??

[HAIL2BNG]

Yeah, like you watch every minute of every team's games? Most people have a life. But then, maybe you don't. You ever heard of NFL Network RED ZONE or REWIND??

I have. Did you just hear about them? I have Directv. I watch a ton of games. I don't have to rely on Sirius radio, five minutes at the end of games or highlights to jump to conclusions. That's for you.

[Slidemaster]

I wouldn't be surprised if he ran less next year. The threat that he could take off at any time should still be enough to keep defenses honest, and he's accurate enough that he'd be just fine as a pocket passer if that's who they wanted him to be.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I have. Did you just hear about them? I have Directv. I watch a ton of games. I don't have to rely on Sirius radio, five minutes at the end of games or highlights to jump to conclusions. That's for you.

So what, you don't know what the heck you are watching anyway.

[Rael]

I was listening to Kurt Warner on Sirius NFL channel 88 last night and he recapped his top five quarterbacks for the year. Actually 6 because he had a tie for 5th. Guess which one rookie quarterback that particular Sirius radio expert had in his top 5? Here's a hint. He plays in the NFC and he is over 5' 10".

[HAIL2BNG]

I was listening to Kurt Warner on Sirius NFL channel 88 last night and he recapped his top five quarterbacks for the year. Actually 6 because he had a tie for 5th. Guess which one rookie quarterback that particular Sirius radio expert had in his top 5? Here's a hint. He plays in the NFC and he is over 5' 10".

Impossible. Between him, those pro bowl voters and virtually every stat available, one would be led to think he is a great QB.

[Rael]

Impossible. Between him, those pro bowl voters and virtually every stat available, one would be led to think he is a great QB.

Don't get ahead of yourself. He had a great season. He will need to string together many more to be a great QB. Rypien had a great season once. Not that I don't think RGIII has the potential to be great. I do. So do Wilson and Luck in my opinion.