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    Default Black Woman Fired for Expressing Her Personal Opinions

    http://americanvision.org/6813/black...onal-opinions/

    "“I take great umbrage at the notion that those choosing the homosexual lifestyle are ‘civil rights victims.’ Here’s why. I cannot wake up tomorrow and not be a black woman,” she wrote. “I am genetically and biologically a black woman and very pleased to be so as my Creator intended. Daily, thousands of homosexuals make a life decision to leave the gay lifestyle evidenced by the growing population of PFOX (Parents and Friends of Ex Gays) and Exodus International just to name a few.”"

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    "...thousands..."

    yeah, right.

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    I don't think she should have been fired for expressing her opinion

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    How many people leave the Christian lifestyle daily?
    Dieser Weg wird kein leichter sein; dieser Weg wird steinig und schwer.
    Nicht mit vielen wirst du dir einig sein, doch dieses Leben bietet so viel mehr. --Xavier Naidoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    How many people leave the Christian lifestyle daily?
    How many born again Christians commit to Christ daily? The answer? Who cares.

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    http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/...ls-firing.html

    The university has policies that specifically referenced inclusion of and protection for all sexual orientations in its strategic plan, a diversity plan, equal hiring policy and anti-harassment policy.

    “In writing her op-ed column, Dixon not only spoke on policy issues, but also spoke on policy issues related directly to her position at the University,” the judges’ opinion said.

    This is a link to another article
    http://chronicle.com/article/Court-U...ing-of/136343/

    In upholding the dismissal of Ms. Dixon's lawsuit, the federal appeals court said she differed from other employees cited in her equal-protection claim in that her speech, and not theirs, contradicted university policies. The appeals panel said her essay "spoke on policy issues related directly to her position at the university," and the government's interests as an employer outweighed her free-speech interests in the dispute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    How many born again Christians commit to Christ daily? The answer? Who cares.
    Right, but this woman seems to think it's important to note how many people "leave the homosexual lifestyle."
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    Looks like the University is going to have to pay out some cash. A private institution could get away with this, but not a public school.

    Not saying I agree with her, but she has the right to say what she wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    How many people leave the Christian lifestyle daily?
    How is that relevant to the first amendment?

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    Does it matter that she is black??

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavnFreek View Post
    How is that relevant to the first amendment?
    How is her comment about people leaving the homosexual lifestyle relevant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Right, but this woman seems to think it's important to note how many people "leave the homosexual lifestyle."
    And so we both agree with "who cares." Michael Jackson was able to go from black to white. Maybe skin color is not so benign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavnFreek View Post
    Looks like the University is going to have to pay out some cash. A private institution could get away with this, but not a public school.

    Not saying I agree with her, but she has the right to say what she wants.
    She filed suit and the court sided with the University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    How is her comment about people leaving the homosexual lifestyle relevant?
    It isn't. But she can say it which is the point of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmalady View Post
    She filed suit and the court sided with the University.
    Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavnFreek View Post
    Looks like the University is going to have to pay out some cash. A private institution could get away with this, but not a public school.

    Not saying I agree with her, but she has the right to say what she wants.
    Notif it's against policy. Can you really say whatever you want at work? Try cussing out a coworker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshan Man View Post
    Notif it's against policy. Can you really say whatever you want at work? Try cussing out a coworker...
    Totally agree. But that isnt what happened. I think if this was a private company, no issues. She violated a policy, good bye. But this is a public university. I would think it would be different because its government run.

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    Maybe the firing has to do with her position as a Human Resource specialist? The university believed her personal views could get in the way of Affirmative Action which applies to minorities, veterans, handicapped and sexual preference.

    "Affirmative action policies vary. The following is an example of a university's affirmative action policy: "... is committed to ensuring that all educational programs and personnel actions including application, hiring, promotion, compensation, benefits, transfer, layoffs, training, tuition assistance, and social and recreational programs are administered without regard to race, color, sex (except where sex is a bona fide occupational qualification), sexual orientation, religion, national or ethnic origin, age (except where age is a bona fide occupational qualification), disability, or status as a disabled veteran or veteran of the Vietnam Era. The University's policy is applicable to faculty and other employees, applicants for faculty positions and other employment, and applicants to educational programs and activities. This policy is fundamental to the effective functioning of the University as an institution of teaching, scholarship, and public service."

    http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/affirmative-action/
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    There is no law that protects this woman from being fired for her opinion. If the reason they fired her is because she believes that gay people should not be considered civil rights victims, then too bad so sad. Just as they were able to fire the Dental assistant because she was too good looking, so to the Univeristy has the right to fire her for any reason that does not violate public policy. For example if they fired her because she was black, then that would be against the law. There is no freedom of speech issue here, as presented by the link.

    There is only one state, Montana, that has a law that would make her firing illegal.

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