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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousTerpsFan View Post
    Lollar and Baker were also two lifetime criminals. What pisses me off about this article in particular is the skewing of the truth. By his rhetoric and innuendo the author makes Ray and his friends look like scum, and the "victims" look like good, innocent bystanders. It's one thing to mention this episode as part of Ray's legacy, it's another to twist the truth.
    This, it's part of his part and if this POS wants to revive it after all this time, fine, but to make those two out to be some kind of innocent victims is BS.

    You're being kind to him to say he simply twisted the truth. This scumbag is just looking for some attention. Don't give it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    There are a lot of Ravens insiders on this board, didn't you know that?
    i'm afraid so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    It was very public. You probably can't remember that far back.

    And Ken, back when he was venisha, was probably sleeping under his desk at work...as usual.
    Check my join date there Brohan. I pre-date you here by almost a decade.

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    99.9% of those in the "media" don't know the facts that were reported at the time and/or came out at trial. 100% of those who don't already know the facts also don't care to go back and research them. They won't watch all of the trial video (which one outlet carried live online the whole time; I want to say cnn.com or si.com). They won't go back and read through the archives from The Sun and the AJC. It's not worth their time, and it wouldn't fit the agenda any way. Countless "respected" journalists have brought it up recently, and none of them have spent more than two sentences considering what triggered the incident, how everyone involved acted / reacted, and how the prosecution ROYALLY destroyed their own case.

    Ashley Fox summed it up as this... "He was there. He lied about it. Then he took a plea deal."

    That's all she knows now. That might be all she ever knew about it, and all she cares to know. That's the simple, "Idiot's Guide" version. The Cliff's Notes summary... of the Cliff's Notes.

    Unfortunately, for most mediots, they don't really CARE to discuss the big picture. Their bosses don't care. They don't get enough words allocated in their sections to cover it all. So you get what you get... a mass of mediots who say the earth is flat because as far as their eyes can see... it is.

    If somebody took the time to write a historically factual recap of the entire incident, most readers wouldn't take the time to finish it, and it wouldn't generate the sort of reactionary website traffic that a short, sensational hit piece will generate.

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    not sure what the article writer did wrong. did anything he wrote was a lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeah View Post
    not sure what the article writer did wrong. did anything he wrote was a lie?
    It can be what you leave out of the article that colors it for the audience...

    Among the many crucial questions / points he doesn't bring up... Why did Lollar and Baker decide to attack Lewis' group to begin with? Why didn't the prosecution allow Ray to admit his lie earlier and use his testimony when it might have mattered? His defense always made the case that this is what they planned to do in their next meeting with investigators, but they arrested him right away and never allowed it. Until of course they realized that the only .01% chance they had to win after the trial was under way was to do what they should have done 5 months earlier. Why was nobody ever charged with firing gunshots at the Lewis vehicle? Why did the only person who ever implicated Ray at trial have to be released from jail to testify, and what was he in jail for? (Fraud is the answer) To say that "Lewis, Oakley and Sweeting were charged with the killings and cleared in a controversial court decision" is factually incorrect. The prosecution dropped the charge against Lewis in exchange for his testimony. He wasn't cleared in a "controversial court decision". That was O.J. That was Casey Anthony. They stopped pursuit of the charges against Ray before the trial was over. Anybody who watched the trial knew Lewis wouldn't be convicted. Ray decided that the 0.01% chance he would go to jail wasn't worth it, and the D.A. decided that the 0.01% chance that Lewis' testimony might help at that point WAS worth it.

    Here's the basic summary of what happened... the Cliff's Notes version. Ray was hanging out with a big group of people, some of whom were not good guys. They crossed paths, while wearing flashy clothes and jewelery, with another group of people who were also NOT good guys. A faction of group 2 decides to attack group 1 to steal some bling. Bad guys from group 1 "win" the battle with bad guys from group 2. Other guys from group 2 pull out guns and start shooting. People flee the scene by any means necessary, as quickly as possible. Two questionable characters die. Two other questionable characters probably did it. Whether it was legitimate self-defense or not could be debated. The state of GA handled the case about as poorly as you possibly can. Whether or not a strange desire to "over-punish" Lewis, in part due to his celebrity, factored in to the whole situation could be debated. Afterwards, Ray decided to be more careful about his "associations" from that day forward, to put it simply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Who's venisha? And I sleep on top of my desk at work
    Is this like your who's Barry routine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Check my join date there Brohan. I pre-date you here by almost a decade.
    Wow, that's impressive.

    The date you joined has nothing to do with your lack of memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    Wow, that's impressive.

    The date you joined has nothing to do with your lack of memory.
    Oh I remember the situation I just don't post as if I had any special knowledge of how it really went down or what each party said or thought because I don't. Just like you don't either.

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    to say the Atl-Fulton Co. D.A. office handled the case poorly is an understatement!.....let me also add ANOTHER important nugget folks forget!!

    They had already "ef'd" up the life of Richard Jewell for the Olympic bombing fiasco where they were embarrassed and left with the image of incompetence.

    They "DESPERATELY" needed a "high profile GET" to reverse that image and in their "rush" to do so "thought" they had their guy in Ray.
    We know the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Oh I remember the situation I just don't post as if I had any special knowledge of how it really went down or what each party said or thought because I don't. Just like you don't either.
    Ray's hissy fit and quitting on the team was very public.

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