Andrew Cuomo massacres any chance he had at becoming president

[Phineas Finn]

Many with much to lose risked all so that wou could lecture the rest of us rogue sheep without fear. Come out from among them, and be ye separate (2 Corinthians 6:17). That is the characteristic of a patriot

No, it's the characteristic of a lunatic who fancies himself a patriot.

[Grindelwald]

The assault weapon ban did not stop Columbine. It would not have stopped VA Tech. It will not stop any mass shooting for two reasons. The first is that these guns are already heavily owned. The second is that massacres can easily be carried out with handguns and/or shotguns. The claim by liberals that semi-auto rifles are the "weapon of choice" in mass shootings sounds good but is not accurate.

Neither did an armed guard.

[Jeebus]

Neither did an armed guard.

OK, so neither the ban nor the guard worked....

So why pass laws that don't work?

[Omaha Beach]

Cuomo will win the presidency the same way he won New York. Heavy support from urban areas, gays, minorities, soccer moms, professionals, and people with college degrees.

He'll run strong in the east, the mid-Atlantic region, and the west coast. He'll use Buffalo as a touch stone for policies affecting the Rust Belt.

The Republicans will take the south and the plains states, maybe Florida. If they continue to put up know nothing candidates they will have difficulty getting Virginia back in their column.

Your ignorance of the term know nothing is sad. If was used by anti Catholic bigots in the 19th century. Your President and other liberal Dems are the ones trying to make Catholic institutions like hospitals perform procedures that violate their religious beliefs.

[Omaha Beach]

That all this blather about needing guns to protect yourself from the government is nothing but an adolescent wet dream.

Gee i guess if George Washington et al thought that way we would now be ruled by Queen Elizabeth rather than King Obama.

[Daan]

Neither did an armed guard.

Neither will a background check.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...:_The_massacre
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A Jefferson County Sheriff's Deputy, Neil Gardner, was assigned to the high school as a full-time uniformed and armed school resource officer. Gardner usually ate lunch with students in the cafeteria, but on April 20 he was eating lunch in his patrol car at the northwest corner of the campus, watching students in the Smokers' Pit in Clement Park.[23] The security staff at Columbine did not observe the bombs being placed in the cafeteria, since a custodian was replacing the school security video tape as it happened. The bags holding the bombs were first visible on the fresh security tape, but they were not identified as suspicious items. No witness recalled seeing the duffel bags being added to the 400 or so backpacks already in the cafeteria.[24]

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Harris and Klebold were planning to kill over 400 students in the cafeteria using BOMBS.

Your crusade against "assault weapons" will not not stop mass killings. The people intent on committing such an act can and will use other means.

BTW, another poster provided a chart showing the 12 worst mass killings. Six of the twelve were committed using handguns only.

Anti-gun nutter Feinstein is proposing to classify existing handguns and shotguns as "assault weapons" and require them to be registered as NFA type weapons.

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[Phineas Finn]

Gee i guess if George Washington et al thought that way we would now be ruled by Queen Elizabeth rather than King Obama.

Do you really not see the difference in weaponry? Or, do you advocate a civilian right to all weapons: missiles, rockets, tanks, planes, helicopters? In the 18th century, an armed insurrection by citizens was at least possible; today, we've seen in Libya that success depends on outside provision of comparable weapons, down to air support to eliminate the government's air power. Any future American tyrant isn't going to be stopped by a neighborhood armed with AR-15s; they'll be stopped (and prevented from even starting) by an educated citizenry.

[Phineas Finn]

Anti-gun nutter Feinstein is proposing to classify existing handguns and shotguns as "assault weapons" and require them to be registered as NFA type weapons.

Proof?

[Phineas Finn]

Slowly changing American culture to the point were we won't live in a country overflowing with guns and poisoned by the mind-set that leads so many crazed Americans to mass attacks will take generations, but changing the idea that it's "acceptable" to have a garage full of weapons with no other purpose than killing people is a good place to start, and the elimination of "military-style weapons" is a beginning.

[Daan]

Proof?

Feinstein's proposed legislation is summarized on her website. The link was posted yesterday. Go find it.

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[Daan]

Slowly changing American culture to the point were we won't live in a country overflowing with guns and poisoned by the mind-set that leads so many crazed Americans to mass attacks will take generations, but changing the idea that it's "acceptable" to have a garage full of weapons with no other purpose than killing people is a good place to start, and the elimination of "military-style weapons" is a beginning.

Ah, Utopia. Never was, never will be.

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[Phineas Finn]

Feinstein's proposed legislation is summarized on her website. The link was posted yesterday. Go find it.

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Nothing on that site supports your statement. Weapons owned legally before the bill passes will not be banned, and only handguns and shotguns that can accept a high-capacity magazine are mentioned.

[Phineas Finn]

Ah, Utopia. Never was, never will be.

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No, it won't, but that doesn't mean we need to turn what we have into hell or stop trying to make things better.

Much of the anti-gun law argument comes down to a simple case of the perfect being the enemy of the good -- better still, the impossible being the enemy of the possible.

[Daan]

Nothing on that site supports your statement. Weapons owned legally before the bill passes will not be banned, and only handguns and shotguns that can accept a high-capacity magazine are mentioned.

I didn't say they would be banned. They will have to be registered as NFA type weapons.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...ssault-weapons
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Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

• 120 specifically-named firearms;
• Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
• Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
  
  Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
  
  • Background check of owner and any transferee;
  • Type and serial number of the firearm;
  • Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
  • Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
  • Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

I said existing weapons that fall under her legislation will be required to be registered as NFA type weapons. NFA weapons are the AR-16 automatic military type weapons. Registration of a NFA type weapon is intrusive and expensive.

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