Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals

[TheResearcher]

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

"Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.
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B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”"

[SemiAuto]

Homosexuality between consenting adults cannot be equal to pedophilia because minors don't have the power to consent.

Good luck with doing away with the age of consent.

[SalisburySage]

Homosexuality between consenting adults cannot be equal to pedophilia because minors don't have the power to consent.

Good luck with doing away with the age of consent.

In most states the age of consent is 16 unless you are in a position of authority over the teenager, like a teacher. If you want them younger that's just too bad because it ain't going to happen. In many states the disparity in age is NOT a factor as is sometimes the case but in Maryland and Pennsylvania as far as I know the age disparity is not a factor. Of course in all cases it must be consensual otherwise its rape - period. There is a "close in age" exception but that only applies if you are under 21 and having consensual sex with a 14 yr old, for example.

[SemiAuto]

In most states the age of consent is 16 unless you are in a position of authority over the teenager, like a teacher. If you want them younger that's just too bad because it ain't going to happen. In many states the disparity in age is NOT a factor as is sometimes the case but in Maryland and Pennsylvania as far as I know the age disparity is not a factor. Of course in all cases it must be consensual otherwise its rape - period. There is a "close in age" exception but that only applies if you are under 21 and having consensual sex with a 14 yr old, for example.

Sure. That said, the age of consent would apply to both heterosexuals and homosexuals. So it is not really a homosexual thing. It is really about the age of consent. It just wouldn't be as sensational if the title was, "Pedophiles want same rights as heterosexuals."

So I'm gonna guess that a different agenda is at work here.

[Baltimatt]

Sure. That said, the age of consent would apply to both heterosexuals and homosexuals. So it is not really a homosexual thing. It is really about the age of consent. It just wouldn't be as sensational if the title was, "Pedophiles want same rights as heterosexuals."

So I'm gonna guess that a different agenda is at work here.

Exactly. Let me say again, "It is not really a homosexual thing."

[Byng]

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

"Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.
...
B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”"

Serious Posters know better Researcher.

Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children.

To post tripe like this, is a total insult to all of the LBGT Posters on our board Researcher and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But as we all know bigotry and ignorance knows no bounds.

[ms maggie]

Serious Posters know better Researcher.

Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children.

To post tripe like this, is a total insult to all of the LBGT Posters on our board Researcher and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But as we all know bigotry and ignorance knows no bounds.

Have to disagree Byng. These kinds of posts are an insult to anyone with a triple digit IQ or even in the 90s

[TheResearcher]

Serious Posters know better Researcher.

Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children.

To post tripe like this, is a total insult to all of the LBGT Posters on our board Researcher and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But as we all know bigotry and ignorance knows no bounds.

Yeah. Sure. Just wanted to say "told you so" to all the enlyghtened "it'll never happen" LGBTMSQFY folks. The door got opened and now the freaks want in. As a Life Member of PROTECT - www.protect.org - I'm more well-informed about this than you'll ever be.

[Byng]

Have to disagree Byng. These kinds of posts are an insult to anyone with a triple digit IQ or even in the 90s

Exactly!

It is the Slippery Slope Argument, used by Bigots, the ignorant and those with limited education.


"We can't allow A to happen, because once we let A happen, it will lead to B, C and D! I have no problem with A, per se, but if B, C or D happens every-thing's over!

OK, class, can you spot the problem here? If you can't, see me after class.

The issue here is that we have no problem with issue A. Issue A, as far as the person using the slippery slope, seems to be just fine. But we need to ban issue A because we're afraid of issues B, C and D. The obvious question here is why we don't just ban B, C and D and let A be free to do whatever it is A does?"


Vicki L Eaklor May 12th. 2012

[Byng]

Yeah. Sure. Just wanted to say "told you so" to all the enlyghtened "it'll never happen" LGBTMSQFY folks. The door got opened and now the freaks want in. As a Life Member of PROTECT - www.protect.org - I'm more well-informed about this than you'll ever be.

This says a lot more about you my friend than it does about the rest of us! Must be the anonymity of the keyboard! The mind boggles.

[Amacada]

Yeah. Sure. Just wanted to say "told you so" to all the enlyghtened "it'll never happen" LGBTMSQFY folks. The door got opened and now the freaks want in. As a Life Member of PROTECT - www.protect.org - I'm more well-informed about this than you'll ever be.

The "it'll never happen" folks are referring to the same rights being granted.
That won't happen.
It seems your "told you so" has come too soon.

[TheResearcher]

http://americansfortruth.com/2013/01...genda-in-2013/

Here's my 2 favorites:

"9) Don’t rely on the Republicans or put their agenda before God’s – but instead push them to LEAD and do what’s right (and you moral Democrats need to fight evil within your party). [See #3.]
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12) [Related to #3] Think for yourself and don’t rely on FOX News to defend the Truth on homosexuality (e.g., did you know that Bill O’Reilly has pretty much switched sides?)."

[Byng]

http://americansfortruth.com/2013/01...genda-in-2013/

Here's my 2 favorites:

"9) Don’t rely on the Republicans or put their agenda before God’s – but instead push them to LEAD and do what’s right (and you moral Democrats need to fight evil within your party). [See #3.]
...
12) [Related to #3] Think for yourself and don’t rely on FOX News to defend the Truth on homosexuality (e.g., did you know that Bill O’Reilly has pretty much switched sides?)."

Google the "First Rule Of Holes", Researcher........maybe it will help you out!

[Lawman 27]

I would not say it is or is not a bigotry issue here...

Heterosexual marriage has been around for quite a while. The Pedophiles could not 'latch' on to that for their recognition. Homosexual marriage is new and provided the pedophiles a way to demand their agenda being accepted.

[Kenect2]

I would not say it is or is not a bigotry issue here...

Heterosexual marriage has been around for quite a while. The Pedophiles could not 'latch' on to that for their recognition. Homosexual marriage is new and provided the pedophiles a way to demand their agenda being accepted.

Child marriage has been around for as long as marriage has been around. Your argument is nothing more than gay-bashing bigotry.

[SalisburySage]

Sure. That said, the age of consent would apply to both heterosexuals and homosexuals. So it is not really a homosexual thing. It is really about the age of consent. It just wouldn't be as sensational if the title was, "Pedophiles want same rights as heterosexuals."

So I'm gonna guess that a different agenda is at work here.

Well I guess the bottom line issue is what is the definition of a pedophile. If you like having consensual sex with a 16 yr old are you a pedophile? Should the people seeking the same rights as homosexuals be divided into two groups, the 15 and below group and the 16 and above group? Of course the problem with that is that in some states the age of consent is 18.

So the existing criteria seems to be the age of consent. Then the question becomes should those who legally have sex with 16 yr olds have any rights?

Its seems like an Alice in Wonderland, LSD crazy trip to even discuss this but since Researcher brought it up I think if your actions are legal then society must determine what it will accept as ethical and moral. Homosexuals have been dealing with society's disapproval of their lifestyle for centuries but moral disapproval does not mean that they should have no civil rights.

[musicmd]

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

"Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.
...
B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”"

Why do you want the same right as a gay person ? I guess mature women make you feel small.

[Baltimatt]

I would not say it is or is not a bigotry issue here...

Heterosexual marriage has been around for quite a while. The Pedophiles could not 'latch' on to that for their recognition. Homosexual marriage is new and provided the pedophiles a way to demand their agenda being accepted.

The couldn't "latch" onto heteroseuxal marriage? Actually, this is not really about marriage. It's about whether pedophilia is a sexual orientation.

[Fang]

Have to disagree Byng. These kinds of posts are an insult to anyone with a triple digit IQ or even in the 90s

Clearly Liberals wouldn't be insulted then.


Homosexual = Diffeerent preference

Pedophile = Sick piece of garbage

[kudzu]

Serious Posters know better Researcher.

Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children.

To post tripe like this, is a total insult to all of the LBGT Posters on our board Researcher and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But as we all know bigotry and ignorance knows no bounds.

Have to disagree Byng. These kinds of posts are an insult to anyone with a triple digit IQ or even in the 90s

Always nice to hear from the elderly contingent. But you are quite misguided in your indignation.

Let me make this clear. I'm not a big Researcher fan. He (she ? it ?) is a die hard conservative idealogue.

But sometimes he (she ? it ?) hits the nail on the head.

The big argument amongst the homo crowd is that they were "born this way". Or, at the very least, cannot help nor change their sexual attraction.

So, can the same not be said about another deviant group ? Do pedophiles have a choice ?

I'm not talking about ACTIONS here, as clearly we as evolved beings do have a level of control of our actions. And certainly most (a vast majority, I hope) would agree that sexual relations amongst two (three ? four ? a dozen ?) adults is and should be a private matter while taking advantage of a child is not.

But what I'm talking about here is the compulsion. From a scientific level, how exactly is pedophilia different than homosexuality ?