Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals

[ms maggie]

You think that's you, perhaps ?

Because men like variety. Duh.

Then why not many more women than men?

Logically if breeding is the ultimate purpose for the species, you would expect a proportionately higher incidence of the scarce reproductive resource. In fact, you have the opposite of that. So either evolution is really askew or.....

Ok, figure it out.

[kudzu]

Then why not many more women than men?

Logically if breeding is the ultimate purpose for the species, you would expect a proportionately higher incidence of the scarce reproductive resource. In fact, you have the opposite of that. So either evolution is really askew or.....

Ok, figure it out.

Are you kidding me ? A world with many more women than men ?

We'd have gone extinct as a species.

Case in point - have you ever seen 5 women trying to agree on where to have lunch ?

I rest my case.

[slapshot]

Case in point - have you ever seen 5 women trying to agree on where to have lunch ?

I rest my case.

OK, now that's funny.

[ms maggie]

Are you kidding me ? A world with many more women than men ?

We'd have gone extinct as a species.

Case in point - have you ever seen 5 women trying to agree on where to have lunch ?

I rest my case.

Well that's on par with most of your "scientific" rationale. Good move: stay with your strength, playing the buffoon.

[Grindelwald]

Phobia = fear. I do not acknowledge the misappropriation of the term by the homo community/supporters.

It's just a stupid word that was recently added to the dictionary. Read the definition.

[Kenect2]

It's funny how on a newspaper forum, people are so unaware of the latest news concerning the topic they're discussing.

But what I'm talking about here is the compulsion. From a scientific level, how exactly is pedophilia different than homosexuality ?

As Ms Maggie has already explained, pedophilia is probably caused by some stunted emotional development. The pedophile never develops an adult sexuality for some reason. But that's pretty much irrelevant for most of us, because the only issue is that they not act on their attractions. The scientific details can be debated by the experts.

Homosexuality and other gender-sex variances such as transgender are a hereditary condition which people are born with. Epigenetic regulation of testosterone is responsible for the emergence of these variances. Homosexual men and transgender women appear to have parts of their brains feminized due to a lack of sensitivity to testosterone in parts of the brain.

Study Finds Epigenetics, Not Genetics, Underlies Homosexuality

Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development

I'm saying that:

1) 90% of so-called "homosexuals" are actually bisexuals with a greater preference for their same sex and/or completely unsuccessfull with the opposite sex

I see you're still projecting your own bisexuality on to others. The weird thing is that most people deny the legitimacy of bisexuality. It takes a genuine bisexual to do what you're doing. I mean you've got to really know in your heart that bisexuality exists in order to project bisexuality on to others.

Lucky for us, a 2011 study has pretty much ended this debate. Bisexual people really do exist. Homosexual people really do exist. Heterosexual people really do exist. The whole 'that sexuality is really this sexuality' bull is over. These sexualities are valid and you don't get to project your sexuality on to anyone else anymore.

No Surprise for Bisexual Men: Report Indicates They Exist

Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men revisited., Biol Psychol. 2011 Sep;88(1):112-5. Rosenthal et al...

But I'll ask you, if homos do not advance the species, what scientific/evolutionary purpose to they serve ?

Do you have any idea how much hatred is embedded in your question? You sound like an early 20th century eugenicist asking what purpose the lesser races have to exist. As if the master race is the only Human population whose existence could be justified. It doesn't matter what evolutionary purpose gender-sex minorities 'serve' and it is offensive to ask. No Human needs to justify their existence.

Asking your question as if it were some kind of scientific question is especially offensive since you've got it totally backwards. The fact that gender-sex variances are hereditary PROVES that they do benefit Humanity! Nobody needs to prove that to anyone else since NATURE ITSELF has proven it beyond any reasonable doubt. Nature loves reproductive variation and that's really all there is too it. Nature is constantly inventing new ways to reproduce, always trying to find something more effective.

The ethics of this issue should revolve around consent and autonomy, not the projection and enforcement of some ridiculously idealistic hetero-cis normativity that has never existed in nature.

[SalisburySage]

Irrational in the sense that it serves no other purpose but for pleasure. Human nature is to procreate.

And I have never heard a straight person ask why they are the way they are.

If you are that naive I can't help you.

[SalisburySage]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kudzu
But I'll ask you, if homos do not advance the species, what scientific/evolutionary purpose to they serve ?

Do you have any idea how much hatred is embedded in your question? You sound like an early 20th century eugenicist asking what purpose the lesser races have to exist. As if the master race is the only Human population whose existence could be justified. It doesn't matter what evolutionary purpose gender-sex minorities 'serve' and it is offensive to ask. No Human needs to justify their existence.

Asking your question as if it were some kind of scientific question is especially offensive since you've got it totally backwards. The fact that gender-sex variances are hereditary PROVES that they do benefit Humanity! Nobody needs to prove that to anyone else since NATURE ITSELF has proven it beyond any reasonable doubt. Nature loves reproductive variation and that's really all there is too it. Nature is constantly inventing new ways to reproduce, always trying to find something more effective.

The ethics of this issue should revolve around consent and autonomy, not the projection and enforcement of some ridiculously idealistic hetero-cis normativity that has never existed in nature.

Ahmen to that!! Kudzu you have been exposed.

[gonzoliberal]

It's funny how on a newspaper forum, people are so unaware of the latest news concerning the topic they're discussing.



As Ms Maggie has already explained, pedophilia is probably caused by some stunted emotional development. The pedophile never develops an adult sexuality for some reason. But that's pretty much irrelevant for most of us, because the only issue is that they not act on their attractions. The scientific details can be debated by the experts.

Homosexuality and other gender-sex variances such as transgender are a hereditary condition which people are born with. Epigenetic regulation of testosterone is responsible for the emergence of these variances. Homosexual men and transgender women appear to have parts of their brains feminized due to a lack of sensitivity to testosterone in parts of the brain.

Study Finds Epigenetics, Not Genetics, Underlies Homosexuality

Homosexuality as a Consequence of Epigenetically Canalized Sexual Development



I see you're still projecting your own bisexuality on to others. The weird thing is that most people deny the legitimacy of bisexuality. It takes a genuine bisexual to do what you're doing. I mean you've got to really know in your heart that bisexuality exists in order to project bisexuality on to others.

Lucky for us, a 2011 study has pretty much ended this debate. Bisexual people really do exist. Homosexual people really do exist. Heterosexual people really do exist. The whole 'that sexuality is really this sexuality' bull is over. These sexualities are valid and you don't get to project your sexuality on to anyone else anymore.

No Surprise for Bisexual Men: Report Indicates They Exist

Sexual arousal patterns of bisexual men revisited., Biol Psychol. 2011 Sep;88(1):112-5. Rosenthal et al...



Do you have any idea how much hatred is embedded in your question? You sound like an early 20th century eugenicist asking what purpose the lesser races have to exist. As if the master race is the only Human population whose existence could be justified. It doesn't matter what evolutionary purpose gender-sex minorities 'serve' and it is offensive to ask. No Human needs to justify their existence.

Asking your question as if it were some kind of scientific question is especially offensive since you've got it totally backwards. The fact that gender-sex variances are hereditary PROVES that they do benefit Humanity! Nobody needs to prove that to anyone else since NATURE ITSELF has proven it beyond any reasonable doubt. Nature loves reproductive variation and that's really all there is too it. Nature is constantly inventing new ways to reproduce, always trying to find something more effective.

The ethics of this issue should revolve around consent and autonomy, not the projection and enforcement of some ridiculously idealistic hetero-cis normativity that has never existed in nature.

Damm fine post.

[banner1124]

Irrational in the sense that it serves no other purpose but for pleasure. Human nature is to procreate.

And I have never heard a straight person ask why they are the way they are.

So now seeking pleasure is irrational?

Also, perhaps you've never head a straight person ask that question because they didn't grow up learning that who they are was an abomination. If you're gay and it's drilled into you for most of your life that being gay is evil, being gay is wrong, being gay is a sin then it's perfectly reasonable to expect that at some point you might wonder why you are the way you are. No such need for self-reflection exists for heteros regarding their heterosexuality.

[banner1124]

I am quite educated.

Thus, so are my guesses.

If you're as educated as you say you are then surely you realize that it doesn't logically follow that because you're educated then you guesses are educated as well

[songfourone]

Sorry, I said for homosexuals it's only about sexual pleasure as they cannot procreate.

And heterosexuals only have sex for procreation? This explains why you are such an sad angry man

[kudzu]

It's funny how on a newspaper forum, people are so unaware of the latest news concerning the topic they're discussing.

I agree. It's hilarious.

As Ms Maggie has already explained, pedophilia is probably caused by some stunted emotional development.

PROBABLY ? Oh yeah, that's scientific.

But for the purposes of my argument, who cares what it's caused by ? I'm asking if anyone has a choice as to who/what they are attracted to.

The pedophile never develops an adult sexuality for some reason. But that's pretty much irrelevant for most of us, because the only issue is that they not act on their attractions. The scientific details can be debated by the experts.

It can be debated by the rest of us, too.

Homosexuality and other gender-sex variances such as transgender are a hereditary condition which people are born with.

Oh, please. There's ZERO proof if this. None. Anecdotal evidence at beast.

Epigenetic regulation of testosterone is responsible for the emergence of these variances. Homosexual men and transgender women appear to have parts of their brains feminized due to a lack of sensitivity to testosterone in parts of the brain.

So you're saying that homosexual men are feminine ? If so, I agree.

I see you're still projecting your own bisexuality on to others. The weird thing is that most people deny the legitimacy of bisexuality. It takes a genuine bisexual to do what you're doing. I mean you've got to really know in your heart that bisexuality exists in order to project bisexuality on to others.

You can project whatever you wish onto me. Doesn't phase me one iota.

Lucky for us, a 2011 study has pretty much ended this debate. Bisexual people really do exist. Homosexual people really do exist. Heterosexual people really do exist. The whole 'that sexuality is really this sexuality' bull is over. These sexualities are valid and you don't get to project your sexuality on to anyone else anymore.

Only if you believe that we're basically the same barely sentient animals that we were a couple million years ago.

Do you have any idea how much hatred is embedded in your question?

Yeah, none. Zero. I've been a proponent of homosexual rights for over three decades, but I draw the line when anyone asks me to accept that homos and heteros are the same.

Equal as human beings ? You bet. The same ? No way in hell.

That's like saying that a man is the same thing as a woman. Patently ridiculous.

You sound like an early 20th century eugenicist asking what purpose the lesser races have to exist. As if the master race is the only Human population whose existence could be justified. It doesn't matter what evolutionary purpose gender-sex minorities 'serve' and it is offensive to ask. No Human needs to justify their existence.

You sound like a moron.

Asking your question as if it were some kind of scientific question is especially offensive since you've got it totally backwards. The fact that gender-sex variances are hereditary PROVES that they do benefit Humanity! Nobody needs to prove that to anyone else since NATURE ITSELF has proven it beyond any reasonable doubt. Nature loves reproductive variation and that's really all there is too it. Nature is constantly inventing new ways to reproduce, always trying to find something more effective.

So, tell me how nature has found a way for homosexuals to reproduce.

The ethics of this issue should revolve around consent and autonomy, not the projection and enforcement of some ridiculously idealistic hetero-cis normativity that has never existed in nature.

The ethics of this issue should revolve around individual human rights and not the advancement of an agenda by any political action group.

[songfourone]

If you are that naive I can't help you.

I only had two children........

[Kenect2]

Oh, please. There's ZERO proof if this. None. Anecdotal evidence at beast.

You obviously didn't read the paper I cited, or even the press release.

So you're saying that homosexual men are feminine ? If so, I agree.

What I actually said was,

"Homosexual men and transgender women appear to have parts of their brains feminized due to a lack of sensitivity to testosterone in parts of the brain."

Some homosexual men are very masculine, but you knew that already.

You might have mistakenly thought that I responded to you in order to start a discussion. The reason I responded to you was to assist your opponents by correcting your more serious errors. Since you're unable or unwilling to read the scientific papers I cited, or even the press releases, then you're obviously not up to my level of discussion. I don't really have any hope of getting through to you, but I hope that one day you might figure it out for yourself. I pointed you towards the path of science and knowledge. It's your choice if you want to continue down your current path of ignorance and bigotry.

[ms maggie]

The fixation on homosexuality on this board is amazing.

[SalisburySage]

The fixation on homosexuality on this board is amazing.

Hardly. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1133741&type=1
http://www.wipeouthomophobia.com/

[Grindelwald]

Yeah, none. Zero. I've been a proponent of homosexual rights for over three decades, but I draw the line when anyone asks me to accept that homos and heteros are the same.

Equal as human beings ? You bet. The same ? No way in hell.

What's funny is that you're specific in saying they are same, as human beings, but then say they are not the same, and don't provide a reason why, or what context.

[Baltimatt]

What's funny is that you're specific in saying they are same, as human beings, but then say they are not the same, and don't provide a reason why, or what context.

They're different. Trust him. It doesn't matter that we are all different; homosexuals are a different kind of different.

[georjec2]

In most states the age of consent is 16 unless you are in a position of authority over the teenager, like a teacher. If you want them younger that's just too bad because it ain't going to happen. In many states the disparity in age is NOT a factor as is sometimes the case but in Maryland and Pennsylvania as far as I know the age disparity is not a factor. Of course in all cases it must be consensual otherwise its rape - period. There is a "close in age" exception but that only applies if you are under 21 and having consensual sex with a 14 yr old, for example.

Explain that shlt to us Salisbury.