Should the NRA, a civil rights group, be declared a terrorist organization?

[songfourone]

If you ever read the Constitution you wouldn't ask that question.

Where in the Constitution does it mention 'size' of government?

[ms maggie]

Some are talking about a ban on so called assault weapons. How is that not a prohibition?

It prohibits one kind of arms. Like we prohibit some kinds of speech and expression--libel, disturbing the peace etc. The NRA darkly warns if total prohibition as in the prohibition of alcohol in the twenties.

[ms maggie]

The Founding Fathers engaged in an insurrection against a government that was less obtrusive than the massive galactic dungheap government squatting over the citizenry today.

Hello remedial history. The colonists threw off an imperialist foreign govt that allowed no representation of the colonial voice.

Apples, oranges.The issue was never of the extent of the Crown's obtrusion--odd word choice--it was the dwindling legitimacy of the very position of the Crown as governor. So while the comparison has the advantage of appearing profound, it is riddled with misunderstanding.

[dsummoner]

Hello remedial history. The colonists threw off an imperialist foreign govt that allowed no representation of the colonial voice.

Apples, oranges.The issue was never of the extent of the Crown's obtrusion--odd word choice--it was the dwindling legitimacy of the very position of the Crown as government.

Imperialist, yes. Foreign, no (the colonists were colonial subjects). Hereditary monarchy, fascist republics, rule by the priests, etc. Different actors and yet the same paradigm.

Please let me know when there is someone in the sphincter rupturing mass of excrement that is the US central regime that actually represents my voice.

[dsummoner]

It prohibits one kind of arms. Like we prohibit some kinds of speech and expression--libel, disturbing the peace etc. The NRA darkly warns if total prohibition as in the prohibition of alcohol in the twenties.

Government can prohibit such arms for use by members of its Gestapo.

[Grindelwald]

Should the NRA, a civil rights group, be declared a terrorist organization?

No, but the Tea Party should.

[Grindelwald]

Compared to my family and many friends they are common.

I don't doubt that!

[flyboy56]

It prohibits one kind of arms. Like we prohibit some kinds of speech and expression--libel, disturbing the peace etc. The NRA darkly warns if total prohibition as in the prohibition of alcohol in the twenties.

And how did that prohibition work? About as well as the drug prohibition is working today. To bear arms is a constitutional right. Stricter background checks and smaller magazines. That is all that will change.

[Daan]

And how did that prohibition work? About as well as the drug prohibition is working today. To bear arms is a constitutional right. Stricter background checks and smaller magazines. That is all that will change.

By the time any new gun legislation is passed and has an effect, there will be millions of additional magazines and guns in private hands.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&s...w=1280&bih=557


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...pe=&as_rights=


All thanks to the gun control fanatics.

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[Smokey 1]

Where in the Constitution does it mention 'size' of government?

It lists the specific duties of the federal government and then leaves everything else to the states. The main problem has been that the interstate commerce clause has been misinterpreted to cover just about everything under the sun.

[songfourone]

It lists the specific duties of the federal government and then leaves everything else to the states. The main problem has been that the interstate commerce clause has been misinterpreted to cover just about everything under the sun.

Where does it mention the size of goverment?

[Smokey 1]

Where does it mention the size of goverment?

I just told you, it lists several duties of the federal government and leaves the rest to the states. What don't you understand about that? The Constitution didn't allow for crap like the Department of Education for example.

[songfourone]

I just told you, it lists several duties of the federal government and leaves the rest to the states. What don't you understand about that? The Constitution didn't allow for crap like the Department of Education for example.

So you got nothing.

[Smokey 1]

So you got nothing.

Are you really this dense? The Constitution basically limits the federal government to national defense and the regulation of interstate commerce. Everything else is left to the states by the 10th amendment. Read it yourself if you won't believe me.

[octoburn]

Where in the Constitution does it mention 'size' of government?

Some posters like to pretend that they have the final say in interpreting the Constitution and that the SCOTUS' rulings do not matter, so they can ignore any rulings with which they personally disagree.

[Dryfire]

I don't doubt that!

And not a single one of us has used any of our weapons for felonious purposes or intentions.

Oh, my family and friends. 1 is a LEO (nephew BCP) and 3 are retired (BCP) LEO's.

[Dryfire]

Some posters like to pretend that they have the final say in interpreting the Constitution and that the SCOTUS' rulings do not matter, so they can ignore any rulings with which they personally disagree.

Exactly. Then, on the other hand, you have posters here that think they know everything about everything but are clueless about things such as the size or the lawful intended size of the federal government and its limits according to the constitution. I'm glad that you agree with Smokey1 even though your post was somewhat quirky on how you responded.

[soultrain]

The characterization as a terrorist organization depends on which side of the fight you are on. The US is busy murdering and destroying families, industries, and nations across the middle east in the name of their self declared war on terror, and bankrupting our children in the process. Ask the people on the receiving end of drone strikes where the terrorism originates?

[octoburn]

Exactly. Then, on the other hand, you have posters here that think they know everything about everything but are clueless about things such as the size or the lawful intended size of the federal government and its limits according to the constitution. I'm glad that you agree with Smokey1 even though your post was somewhat quirky on how you responded.

Take it to court if you think it's unconstitutional. In the meanwhile, as an easier constitutional test of the 2A, you can prove your point by walking into the nearest police station and announcing to them that you're packing a concealed weapon and how you do not need a permit because the Constitution is your permit to carry.

[soultrain]

Last year, the DHS contracted for 1.2 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition for various federal "law enforcement" agencies. Among these are NOAA, SSA, and ICE. Since hollow points are generally not used for target practice, the title of this thread should be "Should the U.S. government be declared a domestic terror organization."