Why are background checks such a nonstarter?

[pepper]

"I am fully prepared to let Obama carry the battle, over guns, to the American people."

That, IMO, is absolute insanity. What do you base that absurd amount of trust on?

[Mom49of4]

The last few mass shootings weren't done by criminals

That is the elephant in the room being ignored.

[pepper]

The last few mass shootings weren't done by criminals

Either way, legislation should not be based on their actions. Doing so is a cheap, easy soundbite way of governing, while ignoring the thousands of deaths each year in our cities.

[bmore_ken]

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/12/pol...s-weeks-polls/

95% of America support background checks.

don't you mean 589 Americans?

This poll was conducted by telephone from December 14-16, 2012 among 620 adults nationwide

[bmore_ken]

Either way, legislation should not be based on their actions. Doing so is a cheap, easy soundbite way of governing, while ignoring the thousands of deaths each year in our cities.

I don't recall any uproar for gun control based on 200+ dying in Baltimore City every year. You know as well as I do this isn't about every day killings pepper, it's about mass shootings that these "background checks" wouldn't have prevented. the killings in Chicago aren't done by law abiding citizens who bought their guns legally. Come on man

[pepper]

I don't recall any uproar for gun control based on 200+ dying in Baltimore City every year. You know as well as I do this isn't about every day killings pepper, it's about mass shootings that these "background checks" wouldn't have prevented. the killings in Chicago aren't done by law abidibg citizens who bought their guns legally. Come on man

Ken, your point is exactly my point. Maybe I wasn't clear, sorry.

[bmore_ken]

Ken, your point is exactly my point. Maybe I wasn't clear, sorry.

I guess we are. To me this just feels like feel good legislation so a pol can say "look I did something". I'd pass any background check thrown at me. How is that stopping me from killing someone if I chose to do so?

[Grindelwald]

don't you mean 589 Americans?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv..._20121104.html

This poll conducted before the election had Obama up by 3 points. Obama won by 3.7 points. It was a poll of 2,345 likely voters. That one was pretty accurate wasn't it? I learned how polls work back in high school. It is simply a sampling just to get a general idea of where America stands on certain issues.

It's ok, I don't expect a response.

[bmore_ken]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv..._20121104.html

This poll conducted before the election had Obama up by 3 points. Obama won by 3.7 points. It was a poll of 2,345 likely voters. That one was pretty accurate wasn't it? I learned how polls work back in high school. It is simply a sampling just to get a general idea of where America stands on certain issues.

It's ok, I don't expect a response.

Polls are always that accurate , correct? I recall Gore polling ahead of Bush, how'd that work out? 6 months from now when this shooting has been forgotten like the rest, those poll numbers will look totally different. And once again, a background check would not have prevented this incident or most incidents like it. Most mass shootings are done by law abiding citizens

[Grindelwald]

If a poll showed Obama up 95% to 5% you think there is a chance he'd lose?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...opinion%20poll

You may want to read that.

[Mom49of4]

It also depends on how the poll questions are worded.

[Grindelwald]

It also depends on how the poll questions are worded.

95% is pretty clear cut. Sorry. CNN is a respected polling firm.

[bmore_ken]

It also depends on how the poll questions are worded.

Exactly and when asked. I'm sure if you asked that same question after every mass shooting you'll get a similar number, but 6 months later, you'd get a different one

[Grindelwald]

If a poll showed Obama up 95% to 5% you think there is a chance he'd lose?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...opinion%20poll

You may want to read that.

Thanks for addressing this, bmore_ken.

[Mom49of4]

95% is pretty clear cut. Sorry. CNN is a respected polling firm.

Again it depends on how poll questions are asked and when.

[bmore_ken]

Thanks for addressing this, bmore_ken.

You're welcome. Polls generally mean zilch. This one included

[Grindelwald]

You're welcome. Polls generally mean zilch

You are very uneducated.

[Mom49of4]

Some of us do not put much stock in polls.

[Grindelwald]

Again it depends on how poll questions are asked and when.

Again, 95% is pretty clear cut. Sorry. If a poll showed the majority of America opposed an AWB righties would be all over it. It's hypocrisy.

[Grindelwald]

Some of us do not put much stock in polls.

Those of us that like to be informed do.