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    Default America Near Bottom In Life Expectancy In Developed World

    The facts are in, the American healthcare system is one of the worst in the developed world.

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    Americans die younger and have more illnesses and accidents on average than people in other high-income countries—even wealthier, insured, college-educated Americans, a report said Wednesday.

    The study by the federally sponsored National Research Council and Institute of Medicine found the U.S. near the bottom of 17 affluent countries for life expectancy, with high rates of obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease and arthritis, as well as infant mortality, injuries, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug deaths and sexually transmitted diseases.

    “The [U.S.] health disadvantage is pervasive—it affects all age groups up to age 75 and is observed for multiple diseases, biological and behavioral risk factors, and injuries,” said the report’s authors, who are public-health and medicine academics recruited by the government panels.

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    ...but we still have our freedoms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    The facts are in, the American healthcare system is one of the worst in the developed world.

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    Americans die younger and have more illnesses and accidents on average than people in other high-income countries—even wealthier, insured, college-educated Americans, a report said Wednesday.

    The study by the federally sponsored National Research Council and Institute of Medicine found the U.S. near the bottom of 17 affluent countries for life expectancy, with high rates of obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease and arthritis, as well as infant mortality, injuries, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug deaths and sexually transmitted diseases.

    “The [U.S.] health disadvantage is pervasive—it affects all age groups up to age 75 and is observed for multiple diseases, biological and behavioral risk factors, and injuries,” said the report’s authors, who are public-health and medicine academics recruited by the government panels.

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    ...but we still have our freedoms...
    But you don't die of Buckyballs anymore.

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    It would be interesting to see the results by race and socio-economic status.

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    Default America Flunks Its Health Exam

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/11/op...ss_igoogle_cnn

    (CNN) -- A just-released report from the Institute of Medicine and National Research Council is making news by clearly illustrating that Americans have "shorter lives and poorer health." This is somewhat shocking, given how much we spend on health care each year — more than any of the 16 other rich countries surveyed in the study. What's even more upsetting is that this report focused quite heavily on people who are young. In the United States, even that group fared poorly.
    Systemic issues are also to blame. We have higher levels of poverty than comparable countries, and our safety net programs are less capable of catching people when they fall. And too many also have too much trouble accessing the health care system, resulting in inefficient, ineffective and often absent care.
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    We also spend a big chunk of healthcare money on insurance companies. Something those other rich countries in the study don't do. We somehow feel that we can't compromise some "free market" idea for the concrete benefit of lower costs and higher quality. We're idiots.

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    It's not about money. It's about personal choice and more Americans are choosing an unhealthy life style. Americans are making bad decisions. This relates directly to the mental health of our nation. We look for every reason to blame it on some inanimate object or the viewing of violent videos. But the question is why do more Americans engage in mentally destructive pass times?

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    This is a terrible article. Deaths by homicide should not be a reflection on the health care system. Give me the statistics on cancer survival, death during childbirth, recovery from cardiac arrest, deaths attributed to flu virus and compare them to the rest of the world. Life expectancy rates alone are not a good indicator on the strength of a health care system.

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    Smoking, drinking, bad diets and very little exercise are creating an overly expensive healthcare system. What is the root cause of Americans making such poor decisions concerning their health and the health of their children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkdwzd View Post
    but you don't die of buckyballs anymore.
    roflmao!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    This is a terrible article. Deaths by homicide should not be a reflection on the health care system. Give me the statistics on cancer survival, death during childbirth, recovery from cardiac arrest, deaths attributed to flu virus and compare them to the rest of the world. Life expectancy rates alone are not a good indicator on the strength of a health care system.
    WHAT??

    There are about 2.5 million deaths each year in the US. About 16000 of those are homicides? You realize what a minor affect homicide has on the life expectancy number, right? Do the math.

    And in what way is life expectancy not a good metric for the quality if a health care system? All the things you mention--cancer and cardiac arrest survival rates, flu mortality, death from childbirth--all those things are reflected in life expectancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    WHAT??

    There are about 2.5 million deaths each year in the US. About 16000 of those are homicides? You realize what a minor affect homicide has on the life expectancy number, right? Do the math.

    And in what way is life expectancy not a good metric for the quality if a health care system? All the things you mention--cancer and cardiac arrest survival rates, flu mortality, death from childbirth--all those things are reflected in life expectancy.
    I doubt that there is anyting wrong with the quality of your healthcare, just an individuals access to it.

    I also don't see homicides as a real contributory factor to the poor figures, you're going to have to look elsewhere for reasons and failings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    The facts are in, the American healthcare system is one of the worst in the developed world.

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    Americans die younger and have more illnesses and accidents on average than people in other high-income countries—even wealthier, insured, college-educated Americans, a report said Wednesday.

    The study by the federally sponsored National Research Council and Institute of Medicine found the U.S. near the bottom of 17 affluent countries for life expectancy, with high rates of obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease and arthritis, as well as infant mortality, injuries, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug deaths and sexually transmitted diseases.

    “The [U.S.] health disadvantage is pervasive—it affects all age groups up to age 75 and is observed for multiple diseases, biological and behavioral risk factors, and injuries,” said the report’s authors, who are public-health and medicine academics recruited by the government panels.

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    ...but we still have our freedoms...
    Americans also get less paid vacation time than any other Industrialized country. Coincidence? We may be working ourselves to death

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...-break/260759/

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    From the article:

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    Things don't get better after birth. The chance that a child in the United States will die before age 5 is higher than in any of the other 16 peer countries. Injuries are the most common cause of death, but the United States also has the highest rate of deaths caused by negligence or abuse.

    And violence is decidedly an American problem. Homicide is the third most common cause of death in children age 1-4.

    From age 5-19, the trend continues. Kids this age in the United States have the worst health ranking of the 17 studied countries. More than one-third of U.S. children age 5-17 are obese or overweight, the highest of any peer country. The adolescent pregnancy rate in the United States is about 3.5 times the average of others. Additionally, the rates of sexually transmitted infections, including syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia are the worst compared to peer countries.

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    Injuries, negligence, abuse, homicides of 1 - 4 year olds, obesity, teen pregnancy, drug abuse ....

    Damned insurance companies! Damn capitalism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    The facts are in, the American healthcare system is one of the worst in the developed world.

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    Americans die younger and have more illnesses and accidents on average than people in other high-income countries—even wealthier, insured, college-educated Americans, a report said Wednesday.

    The study by the federally sponsored National Research Council and Institute of Medicine found the U.S. near the bottom of 17 affluent countries for life expectancy, with high rates of obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease and arthritis, as well as infant mortality, injuries, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug deaths and sexually transmitted diseases.

    “The [U.S.] health disadvantage is pervasive—it affects all age groups up to age 75 and is observed for multiple diseases, biological and behavioral risk factors, and injuries,” said the report’s authors, who are public-health and medicine academics recruited by the government panels.

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    ...but we still have our freedoms...
    Many of the illnesses listed in your bolded extract have nothing to do with the healthcare system, but rather with the lifestyle choices that individuals make.

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    Some on the dole pov crapping out early and saving the taxpayers of the US millions by not having to coddle said povs useless arse is immaterial to one's life expectancy. That being said, if rapacious government did not engage in its exorbitant level of fiscal sodomy, one would not have to spend so many hours working in order to have a modest income.

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    Our country has a spiritual problem. It is reflected in so many of our shameful statistics.

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    With the state of the right wing these days I'm not surprised.

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    "The Medicaid program covers one in every three births and one in every three children in the United States, and it's still not enough." Link at Post #4

    Medicaid is covering 33% of the births and supporting 33% of children in the US? And it's still not enough? To think that many people are on welfare and having children paid for by taxpayers is very disconcerting to say the least. What does that say about Americans?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    With the state of the right wing these days I'm not surprised.
    Then Newtown was a right wing city in a right wing state, right?

    Care to cross reference numbers of murders in blue cities inside of blue states as opposed to red cities in red states?

    Your comment is too idiotic to even merit a respectful response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    The facts are in, the American healthcare system is one of the worst in the developed world.

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    Americans die younger and have more illnesses and accidents on average than people in other high-income countries—even wealthier, insured, college-educated Americans, a report said Wednesday.

    The study by the federally sponsored National Research Council and Institute of Medicine found the U.S. near the bottom of 17 affluent countries for life expectancy, with high rates of obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease and arthritis, as well as infant mortality, injuries, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug deaths and sexually transmitted diseases.

    “The [U.S.] health disadvantage is pervasive—it affects all age groups up to age 75 and is observed for multiple diseases, biological and behavioral risk factors, and injuries,” said the report’s authors, who are public-health and medicine academics recruited by the government panels.

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    ...but we still have our freedoms...
    Naturally, your left wing babble comes from someplace other than facts. This isn't a personal attack, it's just true of most liberals.

    The U.S. is forecasted to have the second highest number of centenerians in the world by 2050, second only to China. And considering China's population is 6.7 billion while our's is about 400 million, the stupidity of your argument flashes in the shape of a blinding neon red flag.

    Here is a small snippet because I just happened to be reading an article about centenerians this morning:

    In 1998, there were 135,000 centenarians in the world. By 2050, there will be 2.2 million centenarians, that is one of every 5,000 people. The largest centenarian populations in 2050 are projected to be in China with 472,000, the United States with 298,000, Japan with 272,000, and India with 111,000. By 2050, Japan will have the highest proportion of centenarians, 2.6 per thousand of the total population, or 2.2 per cent of the oldest-old. Its total number of centenarians will be 272,000: 40,000 males and 232,000 females. Finland, Italy, Norway, Singapore and Sweden will have slightly below two per one thousand people.
    Read more: Countries With The Most People Over 100 - 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/2011/07/12/coun...#ixzz2Hn7gXZns

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