Colin Powell: GOP Holds 'Dark Vein Of Intolerance'

[Marshan Man]

The press realizes that Palin is a dolt. Is Biden a dolt? If so, why is he VP? What blatant promotion of racial hostility? Solicits them? How? If you're going to claim that as some type of party wide policy, let's see the proof. Lower taxes and smaller government are not synonymous with racism.

So now you're making excuses for the press? The same press you regularly castigate? My God , have you a backbone at all? You'll say/do anything to try and justify the unjustifiable... LOL.

[veritas]

So now you're making excuses for the press? The same press you regularly castigate? My God , have you a backbone at all? You'll say/do anything to try and justify the unjustifiable... LOL.

What are you talking about? You said the press wasn't in meltdown mode over Palin and I said they generally realize she's a dolt. I'm sure there was some tooth gnashing on MSNBC and a few other places but it didn't last. What the hell does that have to do with justifying anything or having a backbone? Now, how does the GOP "solicit racists" and promote "blatant racial hostility"? You don't have anything, do you?

[Marshan Man]

What are you talking about? You said the press wasn't in meltdown mode over Palin and I said they generally realize she's a dolt. I'm sure there was some tooth gnashing on MSNBC and a few other places but it didn't last. What the hell does that have to do with justifying anything or having a backbone? Now, how does the GOP "solicit racists" and promote "blatant racial hostility"? You don't have anything, do you?

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p...im-Racist.aspx

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-bu...ist-views.html

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...t-to-hispanics

http://www.laprogressive.com/gop-hate-group/

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100360345.html

http://www.43rdstateblues.com/?q=node/5625

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-93077154.html

Etc..etc..etc...

[veritas]

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p...im-Racist.aspx

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-bu...ist-views.html

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...t-to-hispanics

http://www.laprogressive.com/gop-hate-group/

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100360345.html

http://www.43rdstateblues.com/?q=node/5625

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-93077154.html

Etc..etc..etc...

These are simply opinions of people who think like you do. That's not evidence of a party policy of "soliciting racists" or promoting "blatant racial hostility".

Read up on Lyndon Johnson, Harry Byrd, Fritz Hollings and others. Listen to the hateful rhetoric that comes out of some radical blacks in Congress toward conservatives and especially conservative blacks. Listen to people like Biden and Reid when they let their guard down. The Democrats have a history of racism and vile commentary that's hard to deny and it hasn't gone away.

[Marshan Man]

These are simply opinions of people who think like you do. That's not evidence of a party policy of "soliciting racists" or promoting "blatant racial hostility".

Read up on Lyndon Johnson, Harry Byrd, Fritz Hollings and others. Listen to the hateful rhetoric that comes out of some radical blacks in Congress toward conservatives and especially conservative blacks. Listen to people like Biden and Reid when they let their guard down. The Democrats have a history of racism and vile commentary that's hard to deny and it hasn't gone away.

Well you have people's opinions and you have the FACT that the GOP is losing the few minority voters they once had in national elections. Perception is reality, and obviously enough people are perceiving it to move away from the GOP. You can deny all you want, but the FACTS speak for themselves.

Not like I really care, I prefer that you remain in denial. Who knows when you guys will see the inside of White House again if you keep this up.

[veritas]

Well you have people's opinions and you have the FACT that the GOP is losing the few minority voters they once had in national elections. Perception is reality, and obviously enough people are perceiving it to move away from the GOP. You can deny all you want, but the FACTS speak for themselves.

Not like I really care, I prefer that you remain in denial. Who knows when you guys will see the inside of White House again if you keep this up.

I agree, perception is reality and liberals have done a masterful job of getting into positions that shape those perceptions such as education and the media. For all the wailings about talk radio and Fox, liberals still dominate the MSM and they've always dominated public education.

[Marshan Man]

I agree, perception is reality and liberals have done a masterful job of getting into positions that shape those perceptions such as education and the media. For all the wailings about talk radio and Fox, liberals still dominate the MSM and they've always dominated public education.

Well if the GOP wasn't trying to suppress science promote creationism and evolution as equal theory maybe they'd have more of an opportunity to influence education?

Media's just that..a medium. The GOP still puts the material out there. Don't want to be thought of as racists, then make the racists in the party feel unwelcomed. Don't embrace them, and don't try to recruit them via code words that most people can figure out.

[veritas]

Well if the GOP wasn't trying to suppress science promote creationism and evolution as equal theory maybe they'd have more of an opportunity to influence education?

Media's just that..a medium. The GOP still puts the material out there. Don't want to be thought of as racists, then make the racists in the party feel unwelcomed. Don't embrace them, and don't try to recruit them via code words that most people can figure out.

Suppress science? Really? Who is suppressing science? It's nonsense like this that just goes by unchallenged. Do you think there's some evil cabal in a darkened room somewhere hatching nefarious plans to suppress science, whatever that means? Was Isaac Newton suppressing science because he believed his discoveries had unlocked God's handiwork? You guys take the positions of a few people and act like they represent the whole. Besides, this stuff is a mere grain of sand on the beach.

Liberals have dominated public education and most all the public universities for years in all fields. Do you think any conservative political position is ever presented with anything other than scorn in, say, any of the liberal Ivy League schools? What about the other public universities across the land? How many of them give conservatism any hearing at all, much less a fair one? Young people are liberals? Of course they are. It's all they hear from kindergarten to college graduation. The Dems aren't dumb. They know that to consolidate longterm power, you get to the young. The old will die off soon enough.

[Marshan Man]

Suppress science? Really? Who is suppressing science? It's nonsense like this that just goes by unchallenged. Do you think there's some evil cabal in a darkened room somewhere hatching nefarious plans to suppress science, whatever that means? Was Isaac Newton suppressing science because he believed his discoveries had unlocked God's handiwork? You guys take the positions of a few people and act like they represent the whole. Besides, this stuff is a mere grain of sand on the beach.

Liberals have dominated public education and most all the public universities for years in all fields. Do you think any conservative political position is ever presented with anything other than scorn in, say, any of the liberal Ivy League schools? What about the other public universities across the land? How many of them give conservatism any hearing at all, much less a fair one? Young people are liberals? Of course they are. It's all they hear from kindergarten to college graduation. The Dems aren't dumb. They know that to consolidate longterm power, you get to the young. The old will die off soon enough.

Remember G-Scrub and stem cells? The Dallas school board revisionist/whitewashing of history books facts be damned... speaking of which...exactly what is a conservative or liberal political position when it comes to facts? A fact is a fact.

Unfortunately for the GOP and conservatives, the facts often make them look bad so that turns into a "liberal" position. This is why people don't want conservatives educating their kids.

[SteamChief]

Powell is a great American, too bad he got sucked into the Big Dick's phoney intelligence about WMD in Iraq. He is a Republican on core republican values not the fringe nonsense that is currently tearing apart your party.
Keep on spouting your hatred to true American hero's and your party will decline into the toilet even farther.

[soulflower]

Remember G-Scrub and stem cells? The Dallas school board revisionist/whitewashing of history books facts be damned... speaking of which...exactly what is a conservative or liberal political position when it comes to facts? A fact is a fact.

Unfortunately for the GOP and conservatives, the facts often make them look bad so that turns into a "liberal" position. This is why people don't want conservatives educating their kids.

"Facts" are known to have a Liberal bias

[skeemer]

Oh that's complete hogwash. I can't believe it's this freaking difficult to just admit that the points raised by Powell are valid.

There goes that liberal tolerance of opposing opinions again!

[skeemer]

code words

code words

I lol'd.

[banner1124]

There goes that liberal tolerance of opposing opinions again!

There's nothing intolerant about stating that you think someone's position is wrong... good grief

[banner1124]

code words

I lol'd.

It's easy to laugh out loud when you haven't been on the other end of the situation. I'm sure that the very idea of "code words" sounds ridiculous to the average white male because quite frankly they've not had to deal with it in their daily lives.

[soulflower]

It's easy to laugh out loud when you haven't been on the other end of the situation. I'm sure that the very idea of "code words" sounds ridiculous to the average white male because quite frankly they've not had to deal with it in their daily lives.

A lot of that Dog Whistle stuff is generational. I doubt it's as prevalent today as it was say 30 years ago

[banner1124]

A lot of that Dog Whistle stuff is generational. I doubt it's as prevalent today as it was say 30 years ago

Oh most definitely. Which is why it was as shocking as it was to hear folks on national TV in this day and age just blatantly blowing that dog whistle the way they were.

[songfourone]

It's easy to laugh out loud when you haven't been on the other end of the situation. I'm sure that the very idea of "code words" sounds ridiculous to the average white male because quite frankly they've not had to deal with it in their daily lives.

Lack of empathy.

Lather, rinse, repeat

[Spot72]

While Powell's comments were constructive and should be heeded, part of me hopes the GOP continues on its present course and becomes irrelevant in national politics. But, alas, I'm sure clearer heads will see the danger the party is in and right the ship before it sinks. The cynical effort to disenfranchice other cultures and the elderly marked a low point in the GOP. Everything became strategy, and the ends justified literally any means.

No one incident turned entire demographics against the GOP. But a series of such efforts had a cumulative effect of creating a public image of an intolerant, angry, reactionary and unappealing party.

The GOP too often equates poverty or debt with "laziness," and harshly attacks hard-pressed Americans dealing with crippling health care costs, student loans, crime and other difficulties as "lazy". In comparison, the GOP licks the boots of the super-rich and their heirs.

Yet the reality is that people in the working and middle classes tend to be far more diligent, disciplined and hard-working than the leisurely super-rich, who have the luxury of screwing around, wasting money and not working hard, which the poor and middle classes don't have. The poor and middle classes also contribute more wealth to the economy.

A humble roofer, carpenter or plumber, let alone a scientist, doctor or nurse, works much harder, confronts many more obstacles and contributes far more real wealth to the US economy (and helps far more people) than the crooked hedge fund managers, greedy health insurance CEO's, corrupt banker execs, rapacious attorneys, student loan sharks and coddled, born-rich Hollywood celebrities that draw so much media attention. Yet the heavily-contributing first group is much more likely to face debt and significant financial hardship (even without a single slip-up, and especially if they suffer crime or poor health) than the second group, even if the second group screws up repeatedly and does little more than taking advantage of the fortunate circumstances of their birth.

And so what do too many Republicans do? Rather than recognizing the daily battles of the poor and middle class, yet alone respecting and empathizing with them, Republican politicians and Tea Party loudmouths declare the backbone of US society to be "lazy", wholly ignoring the true deadbeats among their super-rich patrons. Americans will not tolerate this.

[Pauliseum]

Powell is a great American, too bad he got sucked into the Big Dick's phoney intelligence about WMD in Iraq. He is a Republican on core republican values not the fringe nonsense that is currently tearing apart your party.
Keep on spouting your hatred to true American hero's and your party will decline into the toilet even farther.

Spot on.
Post of the day.

It baffles me that they are too ignorant to realize this.