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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    If that's how he justifies it in his mind. Like I said, the other guys (Cowher, Gruden) consistently get contacted about interest. Billick does not. It's not as if teams are too afraid that Billick won't want their job or they cannot afford him.
    Beware when the media say this guy or that guy gets contacted, etc. for jobs. Usually it's just the agents getting the clients' names out there with little or no actual interest. Heck, Jon Gruden had his buddy put his name out there this year, and as far I as know, not one owner even interviewed him. There may be some interest in Cowher, but again, we really don't know how much that is agent-driven either and whether owners/GMs really want their services, now or in the future.

    Andy Reid is a good coach that needed to get out of Philly. It was no surprise he got hired quickly. The more time passes for coaches after they leave one team or another, the less interest do they generate. I wouldn't hire Cowher if I were a GM. His time has passed IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    If that's how he justifies it in his mind. Like I said, the other guys (Cowher, Gruden) consistently get contacted about interest. Billick does not. It's not as if teams are too afraid that Billick won't want their job or they cannot afford him.
    Billick apologists always talk about the money he got from Bisciotti (for NOT coaching) and the money he makes from being a TV analyst (something he's better suited for). But what they miss is that Billick has a HUGE ego, was FIRED from his job, and wants to avenge that firing. And the more time passes where he keeps getting passed over, the more it bugs him. Bank on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    If that's how he justifies it in his mind. Like I said, the other guys (Cowher, Gruden) consistently get contacted about interest. Billick does not. It's not as if teams are too afraid that Billick won't want their job or they cannot afford him.
    I haeard him give an interview recently. He was asked if he had been contacted about the Eagles job. He said he really could not talk about it. Then he went on to say that as part of his job with Fox/ESPN(?) he is in contact with officials from all 32 teams and that he is constantly fielding questions about his availabilty and desire to coach.

    Take it for what it is worth.

    I would like to think that is is HC material, but I feel that he would have been hired by now unless his asking price is way too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    Beware when the media say this guy or that guy gets contacted, etc. for jobs. Usually it's just the agents getting the clients' names out there with little or no actual interest. Heck, Jon Gruden had his buddy put his name out there this year, and as far I as know, not one owner even interviewed him. There may be some interest in Cowher, but again, we really don't know how much that is agent-driven either and whether owners/GMs really want their services, now or in the future.

    Andy Reid is a good coach that needed to get out of Philly. It was no surprise he got hired quickly. The more time passes for coaches after they leave one team or another, the less interest do they generate. I wouldn't hire Cowher if I were a GM. His time has passed IMO.
    I don't happen to think that Andy Reid is a good coach. I think he's a choker, a typical play not to lose coach, and his record, like Schottenheimer's record, reflects that. LOTS of regular season wins; choking in the post season. I also am not a big fan of Cowher OR Gruden (mainly because he's too rough on QBs, always has them looking over their shoulders, and fails to instill a deep sense of confidence in them as a result). They have name recognition, but that's about it. Cowher went LOTS OF YEARS w/o a super bowl trophy. But the NFL is incestuous with its coaches, and that's why teams are so mediocre for the most part. Forward thinking coaches are more of a risk, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Billick apologists always talk about the money he got from Bisciotti (for NOT coaching) and the money he makes from being a TV analyst (something he's better suited for). But what they miss is that Billick has a HUGE ego, was FIRED from his job, and wants to avenge that firing. And the more time passes where he keeps getting passed over, the more it bugs him. Bank on it.
    You may be right but I read an interview with Billick discussing coaching changes and he very dispassionately mentioned that the Ravens needed to get a new coach when they did. He didn't mention that he was the one that got fired, just that the firing of the coach was a good move. That didn't sound to me like someone burned up with bitterness. More like someone who is pretty happy with what he does now and knows what the score is in the coaching game. I like what he is doing now. I think he is a very good announcer who breaks down situations clearly and concisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baltimoreron View Post
    I haeard him give an interview recently. He was asked if he had been contacted about the Eagles job. He said he really could not talk about it. Then he went on to say that as part of his job with Fox/ESPN(?) he is in contact with officials from all 32 teams and that he is constantly fielding questions about his availabilty and desire to coach.

    Take it for what it is worth.

    I would like to think that is is HC material, but I feel that he would have been hired by now unless his asking price is way too high.
    I don't think it has anything to do with his asking price. What I've read is that owners are very concerned over one stat more than any other: NO OTHER HEAD COACH WHO'S WON A SB WITH ONE TEAM HAS EVER WON ANOTHER SB WITH ANOTHER TEAM. Take it for what it's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    You may be right but I read an interview with Billick discussing coaching changes and he very dispassionately mentioned that the Ravens needed to get a new coach when they did. He didn't mention that he was the one that got fired, just that the firing of the coach was a good move. That didn't sound to me like someone burned up with bitterness. More like someone who is pretty happy with what he does now and knows what the score is in the coaching game. I like what he is doing now. I think he is a very good announcer who breaks down situations clearly and concisely.
    Billick is a bull$hitter. Plain and simple. I wouldn't take ANYTHING he says with more than a grain of salt.

    And you think he "breaks down situations clearly and concisely"? Like when he suggested that maybe the Seahawks should go for the FG with under a minute left in the game then try for an onside kick? You mean...like that genius analysis?

    Seriously?!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Billick is a bull$hitter. Plain and simple. I wouldn't take ANYTHING he says with more than a grain of salt.

    And you think he "breaks down situations clearly and concisely"? Like when he suggested that maybe the Seahawks should go for the FG with under a minute left in the game then try for an onside kick? You mean...like that genius analysis?

    Seriously?!!!
    I'm talking more about when he is breaking down plays and the various responsibilities of the individual players. Yes, I think he does that very well. On the other hand, anything sounds good compared to the "dream teams" the Raven fans are subjected to during CBS broadcasts...

    Did he break your daughter's heart or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    I'm talking more about when he is breaking down plays and the various responsibilities of the individual players. Yes, I think he does that very well. On the other hand, anything sounds good compared to the "dream teams" the Raven fans are subjected to during CBS broadcasts...

    Did he break your daughter's heart or something?
    "Dierdorf is the best broadcaster out there," said no one ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    I don't happen to think that Andy Reid is a good coach. I think he's a choker, a typical play not to lose coach, and his record, like Schottenheimer's record, reflects that. LOTS of regular season wins; choking in the post season. I also am not a big fan of Cowher OR Gruden (mainly because he's too rough on QBs, always has them looking over their shoulders, and fails to instill a deep sense of confidence in them as a result). They have name recognition, but that's about it. Cowher went LOTS OF YEARS w/o a super bowl trophy. But the NFL is incestuous with its coaches, and that's why teams are so mediocre for the most part. Forward thinking coaches are more of a risk, apparently.
    This seems to be a similar discussion as who is an elite quarterback. Reid has had some good seasons with the Eagles and IMO he is a good coach. Vick is a coach killer IMO and if Kelley keeps him and wants to have him as the focus of the offense, he will fail too.

    I also thought Schottenheimer was a good coach and without beating this dead horse again, he proved to be the best coach San Diego had. After he left the team progressively got worse.

    If a coach gets my team to the playoffs year-in and year-out, that's what I want. Every year a team gets in the playoffs, there's a chance they will go all the way. Teams that consistently get in the playoffs don't do it with luck. They do it with solid coaching and fundamentals, etc. Sometimes they just don't win the Super Bowl; only one team does each year. But that doesn't mean they are not successful.

    I also believe Marv Levy has been one of the greatest coaches of all time and his Buffalo Bills never won the Super Bowl. But to be there four straight years is nothing short of amazing IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rael View Post
    Did he break your daughter's heart or something?
    Worse than that. He screwed the pooch after having 2 weeks to prepare for the Colts in 2006. I'd more than had my fill with him and his horrible coaching after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    I don't happen to think that Andy Reid is a good coach. I think he's a choker, a typical play not to lose coach, and his record, like Schottenheimer's record, reflects that. LOTS of regular season wins; choking in the post season. I also am not a big fan of Cowher OR Gruden (mainly because he's too rough on QBs, always has them looking over their shoulders, and fails to instill a deep sense of confidence in them as a result). They have name recognition, but that's about it. Cowher went LOTS OF YEARS w/o a super bowl trophy. But the NFL is incestuous with its coaches, and that's why teams are so mediocre for the most part. Forward thinking coaches are more of a risk, apparently.
    You are out of your damn mind. How many coaches in the history of the nfl have ever won a Super Bowl? You don't judge a coach by how long it took them to win a Super Bowl. What is wrong with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with his asking price. What I've read is that owners are very concerned over one stat more than any other: NO OTHER HEAD COACH WHO'S WON A SB WITH ONE TEAM HAS EVER WON ANOTHER SB WITH ANOTHER TEAM. Take it for what it's worth.
    Speaking of the Seahawks.

    I would have taken a shot at a 65 yard field goal in an INDOOR stadium, instead having gone for the hail mary. The hail mary is like a 100 to 1 shot.

    How many times have kickers cleared the cross bar in indoor stadiums with plenty spare from 50 yards plus, answer many times.

    If that record FG had been good, the Seahawks win the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavingManiac View Post
    You are out of your damn mind. How many coaches in the history of the nfl have ever won a Super Bowl? You don't judge a coach by how long it took them to win a Super Bowl. What is wrong with you?
    Lemme guess...your defense of Billick is second only to your defense of Cameron, right?

    (We don't have to ask what's wrong with you...we already know.)

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