Gun control that Americans support: new study reports

[Smokey 1]

But it worked for our state rep.

Oh, wait. It didn't.

But you are correct....nevertheless, one can have a drink on the boat, so long as the boat is stationary/anchored.

But here's a question (for real)....just as with a car, if you are under the legal limit, can you operate a boat? Are the laws any different than for driving?

I think it is very similar. I believe you can drink as long as your BAC stays under a certain level. One problem is that under certain conditions while you are on the water drinking can have an increased negative affect on your abilities.

[pepper]

But it worked for our state rep.

Oh, wait. It didn't.

But you are correct....nevertheless, one can have a drink on the boat, so long as the boat is stationary/anchored.

But here's a question (for real)....just as with a car, if you are under the legal limit, can you operate a boat? Are the laws any different than for driving?

Hi Slapshot

I think the drinking and boating would be almost impossible to realistically deal with unless you had an armada of enforcement. Typical weekend at Hart/ Miller, the drinking boaters outnumber the non-drinking. Thats likely true everywhere pleasure boaters congregate.

[SomeIdiot]

I've never found resorts to argumentum ad populum to be particularly persuasive. I have the feeling that there are a number of constitutional rights that would lose out if they were put to popular vote but that doesn't mean it's the best result or the most sensible policy.

[slapshot]

I think it is very similar. I believe you can drink as long as your BAC stays under a certain level.

Thanks. Really.

I never actually looked into the law. I just assumed it was like driving.

[Smokey 1]

Hi Slapshot

I think the drinking and boating would be almost impossible to realistically deal with unless you had an armada of enforcement. Typical weekend at Hart/ Miller, the drinking boaters outnumber the non-drinking. Thats likely true everywhere pleasure boaters congregate.

Thats true, like drinking and driving you can probably get away with it as long as you don't have an accident or get pulled over for another violation.

[slapshot]

Hi Slapshot

I think the drinking and boating would be almost impossible to realistically deal with unless you had an armada of enforcement. Typical weekend at Hart/ Miller, the drinking boaters outnumber the non-drinking. Thats likely true everywhere pleasure boaters congregate.

Oh yes, enforcement is not practical.

But, just wondering if one were to be stopped, what does the law say?

The scariest moment for me (on the water) was a few years ago we headed out on the Severn to watch the 4th of July fireworks. We anchored off of Annapolis around 3pm. Slowly, the surrounding area filled up with boaters. The drinking on everyone's boat continued until the fireworks started around 9:30pm. By then, I can only assume everyone around me was tanked....which was fine....that is, until the fireworks were over, and everyone started their engines to head home. I am very surprised there are not more (serious) accidents after such events.

We had a guy at our marina come home late, after a full day of drinking, and was knocked out while getting off the boat. Hit his head on a supporting beam near his slip. By the time paramedics and divers got there, he was dead. Very tragic, but predictable.

[pepper]

I've never found resorts to argumentum ad populum to be particularly persuasive. I have the feeling that there are a number of constitutional rights that would lose out if they were put to popular vote but that doesn't mean it's the best result or the most sensible policy.

I've never found that to be true either, probably because I don't know what "argumentum ad populum" means. Let me guess, no Google...

The masses are asses?

A lady I work with, believes "assault rifle" means machine gun. "can't they just shoot, like, 100 bullets a second ?"

She obviously supports a ban. And I think she represents a lot of people.

[pepper]

Oh yes, enforcement is not practical.

But, just wondering if one were to be stopped, what does the law say?

The scariest moment for me (on the water) was a few years ago we headed out on the Severn to watch the 4th of July fireworks. We anchored off of Annapolis around 3pm. Slowly, the surrounding area filled up with boaters. The drinking on everyone's boat continued until the fireworks started around 9:30pm. By then, I can only assume everyone around me was tanked....which was fine....that is, until the fireworks were over, and everyone started their engines to head home. I am very surprised there are not more (serious) accidents after such events.

We had a guy at our marina come home late, after a full day of drinking, and was knocked out while getting off the boat. Hit his head on a supporting beam near his slip. By the time paramedics and divers got there, he was dead. Very tragic, but predictable.

That situation is common. Not the death, but mass drinking. On Ravens game day, my neighbors start getting visitors hours before the game. I like to be off the road after the games, because I see my neighbors guests pile back into their cars, loud as hell and you know they are wasted, and that scene is repeated all over.

Drinking while boating in Maryland is refered to as "BUI" and the legal limit is the same as with driving a car, .08.

It's illegal in all 50 states.

" The most recent statistics from 2009 showed alcohol use was a contributing factor in 16 percent of boating fatalities nationwide. In Maryland during 2010, alcohol and illegal drug use were a contributing factor in eight percent of the 219 reportable boating accidents. Also, NRP placed 169 alcohol-related charges against boaters in 2010. The maximum penalty for operating a vessel while impaired by alcohol is a $1,000 fine and a year in jail for the first offense."

http://www.mdcoastdispatch.com/artic...ent-Stepped-Up

[SomeIdiot]

I've never found that to be true either, probably because I don't know what "argumentum ad populum" means. Let me guess, no Google...

The masses are asses?

A lady I work with, believes "assault rifle" means machine gun. "can't they just shoot, like, 100 bullets a second ?"

She obviously supports a ban. And I think she represents a lot of people.

It's argument to popularity, a logical fallacy. Though I like your definition better.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Maybe not.

Americans Buy Enough Guns in Last Two Months to Outfit the Entire Chinese and Indian Armies

The Obama Administration is the number one threat to the nation’s gun rights advocates. In the four years since Barack Obama was first elected president in November 2008, an estimated 67 million firearms have been purchased in the United States. In November a record 2 million guns were sold in America. This was followed up by another record in December. 2.7 million guns were sold in America in the last month of 2012.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013...d-indian-army/

[pepper]

Maybe not.

Americans Buy Enough Guns in Last Two Months to Outfit the Entire Chinese and Indian Armies

The Obama Administration is the number one threat to the nation’s gun rights advocates. In the four years since Barack Obama was first elected president in November 2008, an estimated 67 million firearms have been purchased in the United States. In November a record 2 million guns were sold in America. This was followed up by another record in December. 2.7 million guns were sold in America in the last month of 2012.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013...d-indian-army/

Human Nature, sort of. Imagine how many people, who otherwise might not have, went to see Django Unchained based on the constant publicity saying how controversial it is?

This is a lot more serious, but I think the dynamic is the same.

I guess we are now able to repel the Chinese Army if they decide to invade, so theres at least some real benefit to all this talk about banning guns...