Boy Kills neo-Nazi Father

[llubon]

The neo-Nazi father got what he preached.
The boy, maybe he isn't to screwed up by his Nazi family and can move forward.


"Judge Jean Leonard agreed with a psychologist who testified during trial that for the boy, "the potential for violence could have been predicted" based on prenatal substance abuse by the mother, domestic violence between parents and the father's neo-Nazi philosophy."

"Defense attorney Matthew Hardy said his client grew up in an abusive and violent environment and learned it was acceptable to kill people who were a threat. Hardy contended the boy thought if he shot his dad, the violence would end. "He was kept in an environment where he was conditioned to use violence. He learned that from his dad," Hardy said, referring to Hall's neo-Nazi activities and alleged penchant for "slapping, hitting and yelling" at his oldest child."



http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...186809931.html

[Mom49of4]

Trial Nears End for Southern California Boy Accused in Neo-Nazi Father's Death

[llubon]

From the article in my post above:

"A 12-year-old Riverside boy was found responsible for the second-degree murder of his father, a regional director of a neo-Nazi organization, a judge ruled Monday.
Along with the murder count, Riverside Superior Court Judge Jean Leonard found true sentence-enhancing gun and great bodily injury allegations. A "true" or "not true" verdict is the juvenile-court equivalent of guilty."

[Calamari]

Should give him a medal.

[llubon]

Should give him a medal.

Maybe a college will come forward and offer a paid non-nazi education for the boy if he finishes high school. That is if the boy isn't to warped from his pass 12 years.

[bmorepunk]

I was watching some long story about this about a year and a half ago that didn't indicate where it ended up. There was a lot of footage of the father and his people, and at the end they stated that the son murdered the father. It was like some kind of crazy dark humor with the delivery. It's too bad that kid had to grow up like that and have his life end up like this, but I certainly feel like the world is a better place without the dad living in it.

[slapshot]

Bet the Nazi father was a gun owner? Any takers?

Mathew 26:52

[pepper]

Should give him a medal.

I don't see how it's much different than the indoctrination into the constant violence that takes place in many urban communities or even isolated incidents in rural areas.

"the potential for violence could have been predicted" based on prenatal substance abuse by the mother, domestic violence between parents.."

" his client grew up in an abusive and violent environment and learned it was acceptable to kill people who were a threat."

I bet most of Baltimore's and Chicago's young men that kill by the hundreds could relate very similar experiences, just substitute "NAZI" for gangs or otherwise loser dads and moms...

[bmorepunk]

There's a lot of footage of the guy from the 60 Minutes segment on him/the murder. A filmmaker got a lot of footage of meetings/home meetings/etc. before the murder.

[pepper]

Bet the Nazi father was a gun owner? Any takers?

Mathew 26:52

You read the link..

"the boy got the family's .357 Magnum out of his parents' room"

[slapshot]

You read the link..

"the boy got the family's .357 Magnum out of his parents' room"

Actually, I didn't.

But it's not much of a stretch to think a Nazi has a ton of guns....

[pepper]

Actually, I didn't.

But it's not much of a stretch to think a Nazi has a ton of guns....

Of course not.

I have a few myself. I'd have more if I could afford them. My dad's a licensed collector, he has some really great historical firearms.

We are not NAZI'z, nor even remotely violent.

I bet that this kids dad, having never heard of the movement, would be just as much an idiot. Consider, lot's of dads carelessly bring into the world children, and by their actions (or lack of actions) create violent predators, and they have never heard the term NAZI, or know what it means.

IN this case, a dads involvement had the same effect of a complete lack of involvement. I have a feeling that NAZI dads raising nutty kids that kill is very rare though.

[slapshot]

Of course not.

I have a few myself. I'd have more if I could afford them. My dad's a licensed collector, he has some really great historical firearms.

We are not NAZI'z, nor even remotely violent.

To quote you, "of course not".

The two are not mutually exclusive. But bet 100% of Neo-Nazi's have guns. But not all gun owners, or even most, are Neo-Nazi's.

[pepper]

To quote you, "of course not".

The two are not mutually exclusive. But bet 100% of Neo-Nazi's have guns. But not all gun owners, or even most, are Neo-Nazi's.

I agree. Certain cultural sub-sets are prone to having guns, just as others are not. You can't be 100% certain, but it's probably a safe bet either way.

As far as people that identify as "neo NAZI's", I personally don't think their numbers are high enough to even be a consideration.

Cals comment, "give him a medal" is absolutely moronic.

[slapshot]

I agree. Certain cultural sub-sets are prone to having guns, just as others are not. You can't be 100% certain, but it's probably a safe bet either way.

As far as people that identify as "neo NAZI's", I personally don't think their numbers are high enough to even be a consideration.

Cals comment, "give him a medal" is absolutely moronic.

While the numbers are very low, as the 60 Minutes story said - the numbers are rapidly growing. Related to that, I have zero doubt that there aren't 1,000's of folks who strongly sympathize with their goals....even if they don't call themselves Neo-nazi's.

[llubon]

Neo-nazi's and their sympathizers are the rubbish of society. They are the same as truthers, birthers and supremacist......rubbish.

The article made no mention of the older sibling that was also abused, he may be warped beyond help. The 12 year old did them both a good service.

Teaching hate backfired.

[pepper]

While the numbers are very low, as the 60 Minutes story said - the numbers are rapidly growing. Related to that, I have zero doubt that there aren't 1,000's of folks who strongly sympathize with their goals....even if they don't call themselves Neo-nazi's.

Like you say, their numbers are very low. At a typical NAZI or Klan rally, the *******es are outnumbered by the folks that turn out in opposition, and the cops are there to protect the fools.

As for folks sympathizing...I don't really care, unless those sympathies turn to actions. People are free to think or believe whatever they want.