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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mom View Post
    What's an academic non-qualifier? The school/college accepts you but not really?
    Student is able to practice and attend classes but not play

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    Here you go MOM:

    When an individual becomes a Non-Qualifier and starts attending college as a full-time student, then he or she: are granted THREE years of eligibility.
    *CANNOT receive an athletics scholarship for one full year.
    *CANNOT practice for one full year.
    *CANNOT compete for one full year.

    A Non-Qualifier is an individual who does not pass the correct 13 core courses or does not meet either eligibility index for Qualifiers or Partial Qualifiers.

    Core Courses Needed Upon Graduation From High School:
    4 Years of ENGLISH
    2 Years of MATHEMATICS (Algebra & Geometry minimum)
    2 Years of PHYSICAL SCIENCE (1 year of lab)
    1 Year of another ENGLISH, MATH or PHYSICAL SCIENCE
    2 Years of SOCIAL SCIENCE
    2 Years of ADDITIONAL ACADEMIC COURSES
    *A total of 13 core courses.
    And a SAT or ACT Score equivalent to your overall GPA on a sliding scale.

    http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...quirements.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mom View Post
    What's an academic non-qualifier? The school/college accepts you but not really?
    A non-qualifier is a student that meets the admission standards for the school but not the minimum academic standards for competition as set by the NCAA. The student is enrolled in school and attends class but is ineligible to practice, compete, or receive athletic scholarship money their first year on campus. This can be due to a Core GPA below a 2.0 and/or not meeting the minimum test scores.

    A (much) shortened official explanation of NCAA Division I Eligibility Rules:
    (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_..._Standards.pdf)

    The minimum standards to be eligible to play immediately at the NCAA Division I level were recently slightly raised to a 2.3 Core GPA in at least 16 Core Courses as well as a varying SAT/ACT score on the sliding scale. The "sliding scale" refers to the ratio of Core GPA to 2-part SAT/ACT. A higher GPA requires a lower minimum test score to become eligible and vice-versa. For example, a 4.0 GPA requires only a 400 2-part SAT but a 2.3 (minimum to be eligibile) GPA requires a 1080 2-part SAT

    The other term used is Academic Redshirt. This means that the player has a minimum 2.0 Core GPA in the same 16 Core Courses as well as meeting the "sliding scale" test score requirements. The player is ineligible for competition in their first semester, but can practice and receive athletic scholarship money. If they do well academically at the collegiate level in that first semester, they will be able to compete in their second semester.

    I don't know which one of these terms fits in Deontay's case. The article I read said non-qualifier, but people tend to throw these terms around as if they're interchangeable, which they are not.

    This is all for Division I, Division II has lesser minimum standards and Division III (since there is no athletic scholarship money) is up to the individual schools to decide. I think the NAIA has an eligibility center now to try to establish some kind of minimum standards, but they are hugely irrelevant in this area, especially in any conversation about football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    I see the reports, I know exactly the problems they are having there, and yes, much of it by D1 athletes at USNA. Illegal underage drinking, use of spice, honor violations - all are happening, as well as incidents of sexual assaults - you can read all about them, they are public knowledge.
    Just as I was reading this thread, I was watching the Investgative Channel and they were featuring the case of the former Naval Academy cadet Diane Zamora who was involved in a murder of another young lady she was jealous of.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE5BN_pB8P4

    Geeezzzzzzz!!!!!

    This has nothing to do with high school football but goes to the heart that no entity is immune from the trappings of life, neither Dunbar nor the prestigious Naval Academy.

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    Thanks all. But, why then does the college/university admit them if their grades are too low to play their chosen sport? Wouldn't they be below the admissions standard for that school? It's hard to believe there are colleges out there that have admission standards (GPA & SAT) below NCAA standards! Incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mom View Post
    Thanks all. But, why then does the college/university admit them if their grades are too low to play their chosen sport? Wouldn't they be below the admissions standard for that school?
    I think you misunderstood how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mom View Post
    Thanks all. But, why then does the college/university admit them if their grades are too low to play their chosen sport? Wouldn't they be below the admissions standard for that school? It's hard to believe there are colleges out there that have admission standards (GPA & SAT) below NCAA standards! Incredible.
    Because athletics make colleges a ton of money and like every other large institution in the world colleges and the NCAA are money-hungry and corrupt. There, happy?

    Hopefully Deontay takes advantage of his opportunity and makes the best of it. Good luck Deontay!

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    First Good Luck To D Mc!! Many times young athletes are not preparing for secondary education seriously until their Jr. year. I was a case study in this and many factors can contribute. However Schools and Parents need to work together to make sure they have a clear understanding of what is needed for their student to continue their acedemic futures. I am interested in seeing the College reults for many of the areas Football "powers". We know The MIAA schools have superior resources for their kids but what about the River Hills, Liganores, Quince Orchards ... And in Baltimore City come on ..let's have a real convo and stop sending these kids to JC's ...It takes Parents and School officials to get this better

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore808 View Post
    And in Baltimore City come on ..let's have a real convo and stop sending these kids to JC's ...
    Pick any JC any where in the country and I'll wager football players make up a very very very small percentage of the student body at those schools. So if JC in no good for football players, then the matter must be just as bad for far more non-athletes.

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