What did Flacco do to Heath Evans? Kick his dog?

[Peej7245]

Just had the displeasure of watching the Heath Evans rant about Flacco - and it was memorable for its broken logic, preconceived ideas laid out as facts and for the overall negative attitude masquerading as analysis!

He says "Take away that 70 yard pass play and his numbers are midiocre..."

Well, Heath ole bean, if you take away that play, then why not try to take away the Tandon Doss drops too?

He mentioned two overthrows of Torrey Smith.

Well, Heath-ster, I noticed from the NFL Replay that Manning missed several receivers from shorter ranges who were wide open and forced Stokley and Decker to make spectacular diving catches of poorly underthrown balls too!

Hey Heath, I also noticed that once when Flacco was almost sacked and had two defenders draped around him, he managed to complete a pass to Boldin for a first down. If you were watching the Falcons game on Sunday, the same thing happened to Ryan but this time, Ryan threw an INT.

Guess it's OK when one of your favorites makes a mistake, but not for Flacco to make any huh?

Nor do I anticipate you giving him credit for outplaying four of your favorite QBs in the last four playoff games. Silly of me to expect so.

[durango46]

I've always noticed Evans lack of respect for anything Ravens for quite sometime now.

I did see that piece. He was really passionate about Flacco being mediocre at best. It's almost like there was some kind of dislike of Flacco.

Plain and simple Heath Evans sucks !

[SugarRay52]

Just had the displeasure of watching the Heath Evans rant about Flacco - and it was memorable for its broken logic, preconceived ideas laid out as facts and for the overall negative attitude masquerading as analysis!

He says "Take away that 70 yard pass play and his numbers are midiocre..."

Well, Heath ole bean, if you take away that play, then why not try to take away the Tandon Doss drops too?

He mentioned two overthrows of Torrey Smith.

Well, Heath-ster, I noticed from the NFL Replay that Manning missed several receivers from shorter ranges who were wide open and forced Stokley and Decker to make spectacular diving catches of poorly underthrown balls too!

Hey Heath, I also noticed that once when Flacco was almost sacked and had two defenders draped around him, he managed to complete a pass to Boldin for a first down. If you were watching the Falcons game on Sunday, the same thing happened to Ryan but this time, Ryan threw an INT.

Guess it's OK when one of your favorites makes a mistake, but not for Flacco to make any huh?

Nor do I anticipate you giving him credit for outplaying four of your favorite QBs in the last four playoff games. Silly of me to expect so.

Don't pay attention to Evans he's been a Raven hater for a while now. The man said the Bengals would blow out the Ravens Week 1 and was rooting for it to happen, we know how that turned out (Ravens 44-13 over the Bengals). Tim Hasselbeck picked on Joe the same way yesterday on SportsCenter, he too has a grudge against the Ravens ever since they cut him in 2001 (remember Hard Knocks LOL).

[Raven Mike]

He's a former New England Patriot. Arrogant and annoying.

[Fang]

Just had the displeasure of watching the Heath Evans rant about Flacco - and it was memorable for its broken logic, preconceived ideas laid out as facts and for the overall negative attitude masquerading as analysis!

He says "Take away that 70 yard pass play and his numbers are midiocre..."

Well, Heath ole bean, if you take away that play, then why not try to take away the Tandon Doss drops too?

He mentioned two overthrows of Torrey Smith.

Well, Heath-ster, I noticed from the NFL Replay that Manning missed several receivers from shorter ranges who were wide open and forced Stokley and Decker to make spectacular diving catches of poorly underthrown balls too!

Hey Heath, I also noticed that once when Flacco was almost sacked and had two defenders draped around him, he managed to complete a pass to Boldin for a first down. If you were watching the Falcons game on Sunday, the same thing happened to Ryan but this time, Ryan threw an INT.

Guess it's OK when one of your favorites makes a mistake, but not for Flacco to make any huh?

Nor do I anticipate you giving him credit for outplaying four of your favorite QBs in the last four playoff games. Silly of me to expect so.

Stupid logic from a clearly stupid person.

For starters, who the heck is Heath Evans? (no need to answer that) Second, I'm done with every and any "football analyst". It took me a while. But I now realize these guys don't know any more than I do, and when it comes to the Ravens I'm much more qualified to analyze the team than these guys.

[Pickle20]

Anytime you use the whole "take away X" line in your argument, instant FAIL.

You cant take away THINGS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

[ivanbalt]

So a retired fullback that wasn't even on the Patriots' championship teams is talking trash? Wow, what a clown.

[Slidemaster]

Who is this? Oh, a nobody.

[Ravens2006]

It's funny to listen to the contradictions...

A: "You need good QB play in this league to win!"

B: "Well, the Ravens make the playoffs yearly with Flacco at the helm."

A: "Well, it's because of the defense."

B: "Their defense wasn't really all that good this year."

A: "Well, they were lucky because of <FILL IN BIG PLAY>. Take away those <FILL IN BIG PLAYS> and they're golfing right now!"

B: "But I thought you needed good QB play to win?"

A: "You do"

B: "Ya know, if you TAKE AWAY the Lee Evans drop last year, Flacco has at least one Superbowl appearance under his belt"

A: "Well you can't just TAKE AWAY the drops, he needs to get it done regardless."

B: "Wait, you can take away the good plays he makes, but you can't take away the mistakes he and his teammates make"

A: "Right, that's how it works in my world. He's just not clutch enough."

B: "So the late 10 point comeback in week three against the Patriots?"

A: "Ah, luck. That FG was no good. Replacement refs too."

B: "The bogus offensive PI that wiped out a huge late TD at PHI in week two?"

A: "Good call. Joe should have thrown it in a fashion where Jones would have been untouched"

B: "The quick strikes against DAL to extend the lead in the 4th quarter? Not clutch?"

A: "They won because of a missed FG. Luck!"

B: "Oh, so it was Joe's job to fall on the onside kick? I seem to recall Brendan being caught tweeting at the wrong time."

A: "Shouldn't have been that close!"

B: "Ah, so the week one blow-out... no room for a clutch comeback because the margin was so wide"

A: "Right, so none of that counts"

...I could go on and on. I really could.
You'd think Evans would know better, considering he actually PLAYED a team sport. Supposedly.

[durango46]

It's funny to listen to the contradictions...

A: "You need good QB play in this league to win!"

B: "Well, the Ravens make the playoffs yearly with Flacco at the helm."

A: "Well, it's because of the defense."

B: "Their defense wasn't really all that good this year."

A: "Well, they were lucky because of <FILL IN BIG PLAY>. Take away those <FILL IN BIG PLAYS> and they're golfing right now!"

B: "But I thought you needed good QB play to win?"

A: "You do"

B: "Ya know, if you TAKE AWAY the Lee Evans drop last year, Flacco has at least one Superbowl appearance under his belt"

A: "Well you can't just TAKE AWAY the drops, he needs to get it done regardless."

B: "Wait, you can take away the good plays he makes, but you can't take away the mistakes he and his teammates make"

A: "Right, that's how it works in my world. He's just not clutch enough."

B: "So the late 10 point comeback in week three against the Patriots?"

A: "Ah, luck. That FG was no good. Replacement refs too."

B: "The bogus offensive PI that wiped out a huge late TD at PHI in week two?"

A: "Good call. Joe should have thrown it in a fashion where Jones would have been untouched"

B: "The quick strikes against DAL to extend the lead in the 4th quarter? Not clutch?"

A: "They won because of a missed FG. Luck!"

B: "Oh, so it was Joe's job to fall on the onside kick? I seem to recall Brendan being caught tweeting at the wrong time."

A: "Shouldn't have been that close!"

B: "Ah, so the week one blow-out... no room for a clutch comeback because the margin was so wide"

A: "Right, so none of that counts"

...I could go on and on. I really could.
You'd think Evans would know better, considering he actually PLAYED a team sport. Supposedly.

loved it !

pretty much sums that ahole up

[bawlmer_fan]

Heath Evans is Merril Hoge with hair.
...or without hair now.

[Rael]

I love how only in Baltimore is the QB expected that every throw, even the deep ones, are supposed to be right on the money every single time. Flacco is averaging over 20 yards per completion and yet if he is off by two yards on a deep bomb to Smith he obviously sucks. I don't get the mentality. Manning misses a lot of deep throws. Brady misses a lot of deep throws. Everywhere the QB misses a lot of deep throws but in Baltimore I guess that means you suck.

[CajunRaven]

Just had the displeasure of watching the Heath Evans rant about Flacco - and it was memorable for its broken logic, preconceived ideas laid out as facts and for the overall negative attitude masquerading as analysis!

He says "Take away that 70 yard pass play and his numbers are midiocre..."

Well, Heath ole bean, if you take away that play, then why not try to take away the Tandon Doss drops too?

He mentioned two overthrows of Torrey Smith.

Well, Heath-ster, I noticed from the NFL Replay that Manning missed several receivers from shorter ranges who were wide open and forced Stokley and Decker to make spectacular diving catches of poorly underthrown balls too!

Hey Heath, I also noticed that once when Flacco was almost sacked and had two defenders draped around him, he managed to complete a pass to Boldin for a first down. If you were watching the Falcons game on Sunday, the same thing happened to Ryan but this time, Ryan threw an INT.

Guess it's OK when one of your favorites makes a mistake, but not for Flacco to make any huh?

Nor do I anticipate you giving him credit for outplaying four of your favorite QBs in the last four playoff games. Silly of me to expect so.

Yeah, and like Phil Simms said on MOnday QB, I don't care about his percentage, the guy makes big plays. He's right. What's Joe's average yardage per pass? Big plays, big yardage.

It's a lot easier to have a completion % over 60 if you throw 6 yard passes all the time.

Evans is a jackass. Flock him.

[JasonM]

As of last night at 11:00, Evans was still griping about how the Corey Graham Pick 6 should've a PI penalty, saying they should have reviewed that and called it back. Last time I checked, you can't call Pass Interference based on an instant replay.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Up until that point I had a lot of respect for Evans. Every time I heard him speak -- prior to his "insights" into Joe's game -- I thought he sounded articulate and balanced. His piece on Joe was totally off the wall, IMO. I was yelling at the TV while I was listening to him.

[NCBirdfan]

It's funny to listen to the contradictions...

A: "You need good QB play in this league to win!"

B: "Well, the Ravens make the playoffs yearly with Flacco at the helm."

A: "Well, it's because of the defense."

B: "Their defense wasn't really all that good this year."

A: "Well, they were lucky because of <FILL IN BIG PLAY>. Take away those <FILL IN BIG PLAYS> and they're golfing right now!"

B: "But I thought you needed good QB play to win?"

A: "You do"

B: "Ya know, if you TAKE AWAY the Lee Evans drop last year, Flacco has at least one Superbowl appearance under his belt"

A: "Well you can't just TAKE AWAY the drops, he needs to get it done regardless."

B: "Wait, you can take away the good plays he makes, but you can't take away the mistakes he and his teammates make"

A: "Right, that's how it works in my world. He's just not clutch enough."

B: "So the late 10 point comeback in week three against the Patriots?"

A: "Ah, luck. That FG was no good. Replacement refs too."

B: "The bogus offensive PI that wiped out a huge late TD at PHI in week two?"

A: "Good call. Joe should have thrown it in a fashion where Jones would have been untouched"

B: "The quick strikes against DAL to extend the lead in the 4th quarter? Not clutch?"

A: "They won because of a missed FG. Luck!"

B: "Oh, so it was Joe's job to fall on the onside kick? I seem to recall Brendan being caught tweeting at the wrong time."

A: "Shouldn't have been that close!"

B: "Ah, so the week one blow-out... no room for a clutch comeback because the margin was so wide"

A: "Right, so none of that counts"

...I could go on and on. I really could.
You'd think Evans would know better, considering he actually PLAYED a team sport. Supposedly.

You took took the time to post this and you deserve applause for your efforts. Great job!

[Ravens2006]

He was on WNST this evening too. Said the same stuff basically. Even said "you can't credit Joe for the game-tying TD throw". Seriously.

No attention paid to the two throws the previous possession where he delivered third down passes in to two hands of receivers, on consecutive throws, and neither one was caught. No mention of the first throw on the drive where he was trying to hit Pitta on a double-move, wide open in space where he would have probably gotten to mid-field or so... but Pitta fell down in the break. None of those are talked about. Then when he delivers one of the biggest, clutch throws in NFL playoff history... "Ah, no big deal. He didn't really do anything there..."

You could bet every penny on this planet that if the situation was reversed and Manning hit Thomas for 70 yards to tie the game, nobody would be dismissing it because "Ed Reed was peeking". If Brady hit Welker for a long TD in the final minute to tie a playoff game, nobody would be dismissing it because the safety took a bad angle. Nope... it would just be another line item on their legend.

The inability of people to see the big picture is completely amusing to me...

The root cause of it all... really... and he admitted it... he doesn't like guys who talk about themselves. He flat out admitted his bias. They probably have it in their "Audio Vault". So there you go...

Last year somebody asked him if he thought he was good, he said yes, and the story is written. As if Joe called a press conference on an off-day to announce his own elite-ness. Now some morons still think something completely different transpired.

[NCBirdfan]

As of last night at 11:00, Evans was still griping about how the Corey Graham Pick 6 should've a PI penalty, saying they should have reviewed that and called it back. Last time I checked, you can't call Pass Interference based on an instant replay.

There are often obvious penalties missed in games. We fans see them on instant replay all the time. When errant calls happen, the national media are quick to say it's just part of the game and the refs are human, etc. Why should someone harp over one that was bang-bang and not so obvious? Should we have reviewed every bump on receiving routs that favored Denver too?

Why not put a camera on the OL and, after review, count all the holding infractions? If we want to get technical about things, there are probably minor infractions on every play and if every infraction were called, each team would have hundreds of penalties during the game; heck, they'd still be playing.

[Ravens2006]

There are often obvious penalties missed in games. We fans see them on instant replay all the time. When errant calls happen, the national media are quick to say it's just part of the game and the refs are human, etc. Why should someone harp over one that was bang-bang and not so obvious? Should we have reviewed every bump on receiving routs that favored Denver too?...

Back in '09 when the Pats beat the Ravens when Clayton dropped the final throw in the redzone... Darius Butler interfered with Clayton on a would-be TD throw in the endzone a few plays earlier. Replay clearly showed him pulling Clayton's left arm back & down as Clayton tried to make the catch. No call. No national mediots harping about it two days later. Before Clayton's drop, Mason dropped a similar throw... only replays showed (in slo-mo) that the DB hit him right before the ball got there. That's called pass interference too. No call. Again, no national mediot harping about that two days later. It wasn't obvious live, it was a "bang-bang" play, clear on replay, not so clear live. Just like Butler's interference was clear on replay, not so clear live.

Funny thing is... OT rules were changed recently SOLELY based on the outcry from a few mediots that "Peyton Manning never got a chance to touch the ball!" when they lost in SD. Then in a playoff game following the Manning OT rules... he got several chances to touch the ball... and blew it.

[OriginalColtsFan]

As far as how Rahim Moore chose to play the coverage on the TD pass to Jones, on one replay it was clear that he had to decide which WR to cover, and he made a step or two up field to cover the Ravens receiver who was 20 yards more up field than Jones (not sure if it was Boldin or Smith). By the time it was clear that Joe was going deep to Jones, it was too late to get back in time. It was at least a reasonably smart play by the safety because the odds were that Joe was going to throw the ball 40 yards instead of 70, and to have given up the 40 yarder STILL would have been a lot, so he was torn between which WR to cover. It was not just a totally blown coverage the way it's being presented. At least not from what I saw.